Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Cherenkovblue]

The question is always "free like what?" and the thing about the GPL is that "free to steal your software to use in proprietary contexts to fuck you in the ass" is not a freedom it provides.

Instead it provides "free as in freeloading" to corpos who take your shit, offer it as a service, make a fortune, and pay you $0. Great success!

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

A good example is email. I pay for email, about a buck a month from a privacy-respecting local provider which is more than reasonable (I'd pay more tbh). When I hear about the newest humiliation ritual/rectal exam you need to do for a gmail account or whatever, I'm at a point where I just say "You know what, it's your own godamn fault. Pay for services."

I started running my own e-mail since 2013. It probably spend more than $1/month in just time for the initial setup. I have everything (SPF, DKIM, DMARC, reverse-dns) setup correctly and I still have to text people and say, 'I sent you an e-mail. Check your spam' the first time I send them something. Always. The big players have made e-mail a hostile space. ... Still no regrets. I am glad I run my own e-mail, and if I didn't know how or didn't have the time, I'd definitely pay for a service.

That would mean for millions of people to ditch their jobs or education. Workers, who have no say, aren't happy when migrating to Goyslop365.
They have to choose between getting redeemed or losing their "comfortable" job.

I took a job recently where I had to be back on Windows (got lucky for the past decade and have been on Linux at work). They recently moved to MS Authentication for 2FA. No big deal, it allows 3rd party auth apps. I scanned the QR code and got my OTP key. It worked everywhere but the company VPN. It kept forcing me to download MS Authentication app.

"It doesn't work on my phone. I don't have any Google Services. I run LineageOS without Google Play." It took a few people to explain this too before they got it. One of the security guys said he wished he had the dedication to setup a phone that way. Hey thought I bought some special privacy phone with Graphine installed. "No, I've wiped every phone I've owned for the past 10 years." (I did use to install Gapps though, a few years ago anyway). I was at another company that tried to force an app, but thankfully they had other people without Google/Apple products and had a stack of Yubikeys they ordered to give to those people.

This company had never encountered someone without a Google/Apple device (surprising. They have a lot of employees) .. but you know what. I stuck to my guns, and htey turned off the requirements until they could order some hardware keys.

Keep your phone Google Free. You can still do it for now (until 2026 at least). Don't even install microG. You basically have a stick-shift. Your sister isn't going to ask to borrow your car because she has no fucking idea what to do with that third pedal. Companies can't force you to install some shit 3rd party app when it wish compains about Google services not being installed and then crash.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

This company had never encountered someone without a Google/Apple device (surprising. They have a lot of employees) .. but you know what. I stuck to my guns, and htey turned off the requirements until they could order some hardware keys.

They did this to me. They are locking down Slack because they are concerned about people taking screenshots of messages for drama purposes and sending them to other people. I now use LSPosed to hide that my phone runs Lineage but they're going to require a special Slack app that requires Intune so they can block screenshots.
None of this has any real increase in actual data loss prevention but the security team has no cybersecurity experience and management has utter contempt for the employees.
Trying to use FOSS is difficult in places with old, backwards cultures.

 

[Angie Wormwood]

They did this to me. They are locking down Slack because they are concerned about people taking screenshots of messages for drama purposes and sending them to other people. I now use LSPosed to hide that my phone runs Lineage but they're going to require a special Slack app that requires Intune so they can block screenshots.

The easy solution for this is never install anything work-related on your phone. The furthest I go is an authenticator if needed, that's it. No company email, messaging, etc. If someone needs to get ahold of me they can call or text me after hours assuming it's an actual emergency. If it's not an emergency and I'm not on-call, your ass can wait until the morning.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Yeah. Those are the real issues. I take issue with that study as it seems they focus on large code bases a decade or more old which inherently will have issues due to token limitations. For a fast-api project, it can potentially save time if you already have the docs available or need an overview. I do feel like my skills aren't progressing as fast as they used to because of using these tools but the pressure at the workplace to rush things was overwhelming until I started using it as an assistant.

Converting an API from deprecated java + tomcat to python took less than 10 minutes when putting claude on auto-accept and that included writing tests, testing, writing the Dockerfile, and writing the Github actions to test, build, and push. There was only one bug with it regarding a format conversion in the json response with an undocumented format. Auto-accept is a bad idea for a project you care about but we were experimenting with it and it was surprising how easy and accurate it is. That API has been in production for months now with no issues.

It makes me think of what Casey Muratori says in this. At about 5 minutes in. Really you could watch from the beginning to maybe 10 minutes in to see what I'm talking about.

Basically what he says, is the code churn, and having all of these frameworks in modern coding. Especially with webdev. He says he understands why people reach for AI. Because working with this stuff is horrible.

For those that don't know who he is. He works in game development. Not like game design. He does backend work. Mostly in C, or C++. He doesn't use AI at all.


here are some of his more popular videos for people that don't know about him.

And I personally love this one. It's just talking shit about how bad windows terminal is. And showing how much better you could make it without putting in that much effort. If nothing else I recommend this one.

 

[HildegardOrgonAkkumulator]

I took a job recently where I had to be back on Windows (got lucky for the past decade and have been on Linux at work). They recently moved to MS Authentication for 2FA. No big deal, it allows 3rd party auth apps. I scanned the QR code and got my OTP key. It worked everywhere but the company VPN. It kept forcing me to download MS Authentication app.

"It doesn't work on my phone. I don't have any Google Services. I run LineageOS without Google Play." It took a few people to explain this too before they got it. One of the security guys said he wished he had the dedication to setup a phone that way. Hey thought I bought some special privacy phone with Graphine installed. "No, I've wiped every phone I've owned for the past 10 years." (I did use to install Gapps though, a few years ago anyway). I was at another company that tried to force an app, but thankfully they had other people without Google/Apple products and had a stack of Yubikeys they ordered to give to those people.

This company had never encountered someone without a Google/Apple device (surprising. They have a lot of employees) .. but you know what. I stuck to my guns, and htey turned off the requirements until they could order some hardware keys.

Sounds like, you found a company that isn't brainwashed enough.

They did this to me. They are locking down Slack because they are concerned about people taking screenshots of messages for drama purposes and sending them to other people. I now use LSPosed to hide that my phone runs Lineage but they're going to require a special Slack app that requires Intune so they can block screenshots.
None of this has any real increase in actual data loss prevention but the security team has no cybersecurity experience and management has utter contempt for the employees.
Trying to use FOSS is difficult in places with old, backwards cultures.

Can't one just point a camera onto a phone screen, like some police departments still do? I remember a news article with an officer doing that, as if they either don't know what a screenshot is or aren't allowed to take one.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Can't one just point a camera onto a phone screen, like some police departments still do

shhhhh. ITS SECURE!

 

[Not Even Kiwi Music]

I was looking somewhere that they said that Hyprland now had a Wikipedia article, well, it didn't take long for some aspie tranny to cover Vaxry in the article.

Like poetry.

 

[Pluciferous]

I was looking somewhere that they said that Hyprland now had a Wikipedia article, well, it didn't take long for some aspie tranny to cover Vaxry in the article.

Nota bene: Framework has NOT cancelled their Hyprland funding, and the article source 9 that’s cited is an itsfoss article that doesn’t say anything about funding getting pulled, it’s purely documenting how angry the leftie retards are at Framework.

It’s easy to list controversies when you’re willing to make shit up…

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Basically what he says, is the code churn, and having all of these frameworks in modern coding. Especially with webdev. He says he understands why people reach for AI. Because working with this stuff is horrible.

It's really bad with web frameworks. Using "AI" can allow you to make a web front end if you don't know(and don't want to know) web dev. From personal experience, the models are the best at writing web UIs, probably because web dev is so common. One benefit and curse to this is that you can make webUIs for tools that should only be in the terminal but some companies are so far behind that their "old" employees refuse to use terminal tools.

Can't one just point a camera onto a phone screen, like some police departments still do?

Yes. Managers aren't technical and people don't like pushing back. The way some corporate cultures are, severely outdated managers make demands and everyone just says yes to save face or look good. Managers love jeets for saying yes. This creates weird, nonsensical policies. I think this is also why open source projects have a difficult relationship with some companies in terms of them trying to close the source, monetize, etc. The same goes for open sourcing something that has no marketable value.

I do wonder how much of the tension with corporate-owned opensource projects is less the employees who are writing the bulk of the code and more managers forcing them to behave a certain way.

 

[Ed Special]

I was looking somewhere that they said that Hyprland now had a Wikipedia article, well, it didn't take long for some aspie tranny to cover Vaxry in the article.

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Like poetry.

>Model M keyboard
>G4 PowerMac
>Trannoid
Just needs to "use Arch, BTW" and we'll have a full Smug Tech Tranny

Also while I'm at it, the Model M is a dogshit membrane keyboard that would nowadays be marketed as "mem-chanical" or "mechanical feel" and keyboard elitists (AKA colossal faggots) would rightfully shit on it for being the absolute worst of both worlds with none of the benefits of either mechanical or membrane, but because it's old and they're retarded they instead dickride it like it's better than its clones that had ACTUAL high-quality mechanical switches.

 

[Combustion Engine]

I was looking somewhere that they said that Hyprland now had a Wikipedia article

Not anymore, and this is the second time it's reverted in a month. Sorry gayland child, you're not notable. Enjoy redirect. (archive)


The account that made the edit is fairly new. Let's look at its history. (archive)

Some sandbox edits ("hehe"), user profile changes, nothing too special. Some edits to Game Freak's page, undoing some alleged vandalism on a page and complaining to admins about it, some technical additions to portage's page.. then Asahi Linux, that's some pretty specific subjects. And undoing some claims with "no citations provided for this" , in the "age regression in therapy" page (what is even that about?): (archive)

Ah, this is what it's about:

Just normal stuff.

 

[reactionary]

then Asahi Linux

You can stop right here. No one sane interacts with Asahi at this point in time.

 

[dec05eba]

Public domain software is arguably more free than with GPL or even MIT.

"Public domain" means different things in different countries and this causes issues. That's why clear public domain licenses exist, such as the "unlicensed" license and CC0.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Not anymore, and this is the second time it's reverted in a month. Sorry gayland child, you're not notable. Enjoy redirect. (archive)
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The account that made the edit is fairly new. Let's look at its history. (archive)
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Some sandbox edits ("hehe"), user profile changes, nothing too special. Some edits to Game Freak's page, undoing some alleged vandalism on a page and complaining to admins about it, some technical additions to portage's page.. then Asahi Linux, that's some pretty specific subjects. And undoing some claims with "no citations provided for this" , in the "age regression in therapy" page (what is even that about?): (archive)
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Ah, this is what it's about:
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Just normal stuff.

So basically it's confirmed tranny hands reverted the article.

 

[Kola]

>it's only le good if it came out in the last 3 months
curry-stained javascript pajeet fingers typed this post from a sheet metal hovel on one of the stinkiest designated shitting streets of new delhi

and here we have the strange case of the man who never goes over bridges built over 5 years ago because "none of these are new projects"
seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? the gnu packages i listed are all very relevant, they are relied on by untold amounts of software, and most of them are maintained by the gnu project

The point is that it's rare to see GNU GPL on new projects. You made the rest up in your head so you can be mad at something.

 

[Curry Teafag]

Also while I'm at it, the Model M is a dogshit membrane keyboard

It's a buckled-spring keyboard, it has a spring under the cap. Have you ever even typed on one?

 

[Ed Special]

It's a buckled-spring keyboard, it has a spring under the cap. Have you ever even typed on one?

I own one that I got from a previous workplace, yes. The buckled spring actuates a rubber membrane exactly like you'd find in a $5 Walmart shitboard, as opposed to the previous Model F, where it actuates an actual mechanical keyswitch, or the numerous Model M clones, like the Suntouch SIIG, that use actual mechanical keyswitches. Also, some of the later outsourced production runs just outright omit the buckling spring in favor of being just straight basic nigger rubber dome shitboards. The Model M is a shit keyboard that was optimized for cost, vs the much more expensive quality-optimized Model F. It's only considered "good" because it's old and heavy and comes from an era where the standards for the "absolute bare minimum" were slightly higher.

 

[Curry Teafag]

I was referring to the original earlier models, of course, but you're right, the spring actuates a rubberdome, so it technically could be as well called a rubberdome keyboard. I still think it's nice to type on, that's what matters.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Aparently the GNOME Foundation is still seeting at Framework for supporting Hyprland/Omarchy and are consitering not taking sponsership funding from them now (like that's gonna spook Framework and not hurt GNOME ).

Also Lunduke's taking a victory lap about "Muh main branch for software by soydevs still using master over main" with the main Rust repo changing thier master branch to "main"