Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
Darkholme's Dungeon said:
Did anyone post this? Gentoo moves off of github because "fuck AI", from the new year's report (archive)


Also somehow I missed the GPG fracture news apparently?
Click to expand...
I reading that. I'm definitely for this move.

Microsoft doesn't own and run github out of the kindness of their hearts. They own it because they are able to extract some kind of capital from it. And that captial is control over the largest site that hosts open source projects. They use it to train their ai, to make money off of that. And in recent events, obviously made money from how shit their own product was (by overcharging people becsuse of a bug in their scripts) And I don't see them giving much back for that deal, that people couldn't realistically get somewhere else if they're even somewhat competent.

I'm not really pro codeburg. But I would prefer it over github. I don't think their is a site I like less than github for git hosting. So in general, even when the reason is gay, I'm still happy to see people go somewhere else. It wouldn't make much sense for me to not, just because I don't like their reason, because it's still in my interest for as many people to get off their site as possible.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I'm not really pro codeburg. But I would prefer it over github. I don't think their is a site I like less than github for git hosting. So in general, even when the reason is gay, I'm still happy to see people go somewhere else. It wouldn't make much sense for me to not, just because I don't like their reason, because it's still in my interest for as many people to get off their site as possible.
Click to expand...
My personal opinion is that it's not that hard to self host in this day and age. But then again, I used to use DARCS like a madman, and I still use Subversion (I also tried Fossil and Hg). I also don't work in IT.
 
Ferryman said:
GnuPG is such a fundamental tool
Click to expand...
Yes, and the main developer being an asshole and rejecting adding a bunch of non-core features is a good thing.

Sometimes, software that aim to be minimal on scope and having a minimal featureset is a good thing. More software should be like that.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I reading that. I'm definitely for this move.

Microsoft doesn't own and run github out of the kindness of their hearts. They own it because they are able to extract some kind of capital from it. And that captial is control over the largest site that hosts open source projects. They use it to train their ai, to make money off of that. And in recent events, obviously made money from how shit their own product was (by overcharging people becsuse of a bug in their scripts) And I don't see them giving much back for that deal, that people couldn't realistically get somewhere else if they're even somewhat competent.

I'm not really pro codeburg. But I would prefer it over github. I don't think their is a site I like less than github for git hosting. So in general, even when the reason is gay, I'm still happy to see people go somewhere else. It wouldn't make much sense for me to not, just because I don't like their reason, because it's still in my interest for as many people to get off their site as possible.
Click to expand...
What functionally is the difference between Github and Codeberg outside of the size of their userbase. I've only used Github my whole life, but I can go for a backup, in case Github gets compromised and start taking down projects for any reason.
 
linchan said:
What functionally is the difference between Github and Codeberg outside of the size of their userbase. I've only used Github my whole life, but I can go for a backup, in case Github gets compromised and start taking down projects for any reason.
Click to expand...
As far as I know the main difference, will be how integrated github is with a lot of other services, and sites. Since they're Microsoft, and also the biggest git hosting site, that's something they're able to pull off. Outside of that, between codeburg, gitlab, gitea, or one of the others, you could probably find one of them that does everything you need, if not all of them.

And if you know how to just use git itself (you aren't relying on their github specific command line tool) you should be pretty much set. If you are simply storing projects on github, and aren't relying on anything else they do all of them will work for sure. Otherwise I would just check if they do what you need.

As far as the differences between github, and codeburg. Well, the main one is codeburg is an annoying blue color for no reason. Otherwise it's a lot simpler feeling, which I personally like actually. It doesn't have any of th extra nonsense, like how github almost made itself social media like in some sense. It obviously doesn't have any of the copilot stuff. It's just a git hosting site. Like a git hosting site should be.
 
linchan said:
What functionally is the difference between Github and Codeberg outside of the size of their userbase. I've only used Github my whole life, but I can go for a backup, in case Github gets compromised and start taking down projects for any reason.
Click to expand...
CodeBerg is already compromised + they got a COC which is as pozzed as usual as such don’t expect them not to ban things that GitHub will - if anything i would trust MS more when it comes to not deleting repos than bunch of unpaid leftards.
 
Anti-github sentiment has been growing, and why would it not be? It's owned by Micro$oft, its UI sucks, it pushes you to use their shitty tools, and you can literally self-host something that pretty much has feature-parity for $0. I think when the ziggers quit due to that insane sleep.sh issue, that was a turning point.
 
WielkiWapiesz2137 said:
CodeBerg is already compromised + they got a COC which is as pozzed as usual as such don’t expect them not to ban things that GitHub will - if anything i would trust MS more when it comes to not deleting repos than bunch of unpaid leftards.
Click to expand...
It being lefty isn't that much of an issue. I'm not a frequent coder but I store a bunch of python codes to process my video files, I do worry that projects like Youtube-dlp gets taken down because I rely on that shit to hock Youtube videos.
 
I don't think they will begin taking projects down, but they dredge through all the code they can find to imprison it (and along with it, portions of it's creator's souls)* in their cyberdemonic silicate prison, bringing it to them on a silver platter seems a bit retarded. Also, M$ sucks and using their infrastructure feels dirty and hypocritical.

* This can also be a security concern, when chatgpu spits out code that was supposed to be secret (anything you want to be secret should stay on your devices anyways) - Microsoft had access to that data even before, you are really just relying on their nonexistent benevolence not to look. Or a copyright violation when chatgpu spits copyrighted code and a cultist uses it.
 
Jotch said:
gitgud lets you use +NIGGER
Click to expand...
They seem to block Mullvad, or at least their account service, Sapphire, does. Thanks to scrapers we can't have nice things, but some of us live in places we can get jailed for saying nigger and need the internet condom that is a VPN.

The more I look at all the different options for Git hosting the more I think that self-hosting something like Forgejo, behind SSH tunneling to protect against the common issues git sites have with scrapers, plus mirrors to other git hosts, is the idea, unless you want +NIGGER in which case mirrors are out.

With the current state of open source, I can only imagine collaborating with a group of people I know and relatively trust anyway, in which case Forgejo on a VPS requiring tunneling to access is acceptable. It's kind of all part of the engineering of society to exclude and isolate people, but thankfully one can still collaborate with trusted people.
 
THE DREADED CONE said:
They seem to block Mullvad, or at least their account service, Sapphire, does. Thanks to scrapers we can't have nice things, but some of us live in places we can get jailed for saying nigger and need the internet condom that is a VPN.

The more I look at all the different options for Git hosting the more I think that self-hosting something like Forgejo, behind SSH tunneling to protect against the common issues git sites have with scrapers, plus mirrors to other git hosts, is the idea, unless you want +NIGGER in which case mirrors are out.

With the current state of open source, I can only imagine collaborating with a group of people I know and relatively trust anyway, in which case Forgejo on a VPS requiring tunneling to access is acceptable. It's kind of all part of the engineering of society to exclude and isolate people, but thankfully one can still collaborate with trusted people.
Click to expand...
Mullvad works fine for gitgud except for sapphire, the login service.
They don't block TOR, so I log in with tor and run with mullvad. Not much inconvenience since you stay logged in for a long while.
 
WielkiWapiesz2137 said:
CodeBerg is already compromised + they got a COC which is as pozzed as usual as such don’t expect them not to ban things that GitHub will - if anything i would trust MS more when it comes to not deleting repos than bunch of unpaid leftards.
Click to expand...
Aren't they also based in Germany? How heavy handed on copyright content and "hate speech" given how Germany usually is about those.
 
Stumbling7 said:
So I guess it's Gitlab, Gitgud and Gitea are the best choices.
Click to expand...
is there some sort of federated git service where projects can host themselves on their own servers but share accounts between servers? The owner of the host has full control over the project and can add or revoke authority to other users and servers?
 
Betonhaus said:
is there some sort of federated git service where projects can host themselves on their own servers but share accounts between servers? The owner of the host has full control over the project and can add or revoke authority to other users and servers?
Click to expand...
Yes, it’s pretty easy using Tailscale Sharing.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom