Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[SleeplessEcho]

Isn't there a license that's basically "free for personal or nonprofit use, but if you make money from the software you have to pay the developer"?

I feel like there's a market for a license where you can either pay the license holder or contribute back.

Sorry I'm late and gay and this has already been answered, but essentially:

Just publish under the GPL and add a note saying you're happy to negotiate a commercial license for interested customers.

 

[ProudSkibidiTolietAryan]

While I agree that the Stallman witch hunt was a complete gayop, and people who participated in spreading the slander should be isolated in a mental institution, I have to mention that KF is not your personal army, and we are not some autistic illuminati. So turn down the emotions, dont touch the cows.

A good example of doublethink in the tranny techbro/rust fanatics club was how they used the fact that Stallman has absolutely no way with words to paint him as a pedophile. Stallman is autistic, and his website is full of sperging about every imaginable topic which of course included sex. I dont remember what exactly he was writing about but a lot of his opinions in that regard were taken out of context or presented as way worse than they were in reality. So the doublething comes in when some tranny spergs out on mastodon you are not allowed to criticise it because its ableist, anti autistic and so and so. But when an actual autist/aspie like Stallman spergs out in an article somewhere on his website then they will crop the shit out of it and post it everywhere showing how he is killing babies and is ableist and so and so (despite him being not).

Im not saying to organize Im just saying its morally ok to fuck with these people in your free time.

 

[Ferryman]

There's a reason Terry called them MIT niggers. Everything people claim is wrong with the GPL, including the communism angle, is actually what MIT and adjacent cuck licenses do. They let rust troonies and other retards act as shabbos goyim for corporations that have no obligation to continue funding the OG project instead of swallowing everything and creating their own proprietary version once enough quality has been reached. Useful idiot is a perfect way to describe the myriad trannies that write exclusively cuck license code. I legitimately believe this might be RH et al.'s game plan long term since most of their shit is MIT, including Wayland.

For me, it all boils down to my continued privacy and security. I cannot trust anything that I or others cannot audit, especially not coming from mister Moloch up in every FAGMAN office the world over. It truly is as shrimple as that.

 

[Coolio55]

There's a reason Terry called them MIT niggers. Everything people claim is wrong with the GPL, including the communism angle, is actually what MIT and adjacent cuck licenses do. They let rust troonies and other retards act as shabbos goyim for corporations that have no obligation to continue funding the OG project instead of swallowing everything and creating their own proprietary version once enough quality has been reached. Useful idiot is a perfect way to describe the myriad trannies that write exclusively cuck license code. I legitimately believe this might be RH et al.'s game plan long term since most of their shit is MIT, including Wayland.

For me, it all boils down to my continued privacy and security. I cannot trust anything that I or others cannot audit, especially not coming from mister Moloch up in every FAGMAN office the world over. It truly is as shrimple as that.

Terry released his project as fully public domain.

 

[Ferryman]

Terry released his project as fully public domain.

I know, just seemed like the funniest way to start the post, and whenever I read the license name its always Terry's voice saying "MIT nigger" in my head. That alone will forever prevent me from writing MIT code.

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

Nigger make a libc that will allow people to actually use the same programs they are already running on linux, then talk.

I don't understand this part. If you want binary compatibility, this is basically impossible unless you reimplement all of glibc, which nobody is going to do because wtf is the point when glibc already exists and is under the LGPL. If you just want to be able to compile with a different libc, musl essentially does that nowadays since most of the unportable glibcisms in various programs have been replaced with more portable solutions.

Sorry I'm late and gay and this has already been answered, but essentially:

Just publish under the GPL and add a note saying you're happy to negotiate a commercial license for interested customers.

Note that if you have contributors besides yourself (and they haven't assigned you the copyright), you need all of these people to agree to a relicensing.

 

[Tremolo]

They really hate the dude. There's an entire website dedicated to telling you how to switch out of the GNU ecosystem just like there are similar guides for Microsoft/Google.

The whole stallman thing feels pointless to argue on honestly. Stallman himself is a turbo left leaning lolbert, and if prompted enough would probably lay down flat to get flayed and burned alive by the people calling him a T&H pedophile (like this guy here) who should be ousted from every position he's in anyway, He's extremely autistic (never diagnosed iirc but its obvious) too so its a situation of him saying and wording ideas that were extremely retarded and then putting himself in the kind of situation where its not even really a defensible position, just one you apologize for till you die. If it gets to a point where writing out coreutils and the whole GNU stack is a feasible prospect there will be no one in any position who rejects it. The only solace is that it's unlikely because all good things (like coreutils) were made decades ago, and stallman felts your average nu-fag coder in proficiency by several orders of magnitude even if he literally can't type (and has debilitating cancer).

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

So literally religious doctrine is solely why they avoid gnu?

Some people have valid claims about gnu projects. I find that these are by far the minority. They're mostly the suckless, and suckless adjacent people. Who value simplicity, minimalism, and the unix philosophy generally. They tend to dislike gnu programs because they see them as overcomplicated, and bloated. And they generally clash with the suckless philosophy (or similar ideas).

Like I said, those people are in the minority from what I've seen. Most of the people that hate gnu that I've ran into are trannies, or people with anime/furry pfp's, that hate gnu because they're heckin bad. They also hate the suckless people as well. Which kinda clues you in to the argument not really being a technical one.

I don't understand this part. If you want binary compatibility, this is basically impossible unless you reimplement all of glibc, which nobody is going to do because wtf is the point when glibc already exists and is under the LGPL. If you just want to be able to compile with a different libc, musl essentially does that nowadays since most of the unportable glibcisms in various programs have been replaced with more portable solutions.

Look. I get the technical problem with it, and why someone making an alternative libc wouldn't want to just recreate glibc. But the reality we are faced with on linux today. Is there is a pretty good chance a lot of things are just going to he pretty much unusable if you try running musl. Unless they find an actual solution to this. I will still think the people saying we should just use another libc implementation are either delusional about what the state of the other libc's is currently, or they don't care that there is a pretty high chance things just aren't going to work.

I've ran distros with musl in the past. My last attempt wasn't even that long ago. I couldn't even get mullvad running under musl. And more commonly I run into problems with things like browsers, anything electron based, afaik gaming is probably going to be even worse than usual under musl, etc. You end up needing to install a second package manager of some kind, nix flatpak or another method. Then that just ends up running the programs with glibc anyway. I would rather just use glibc .

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

Look. I get the technical problem with it, and why someone making an alternative libc wouldn't want to just recreate glibc. But the reality we are faced with on linux today. Is there is a pretty good chance a lot of things are just going to he pretty much unusable if you try running musl.

Unless you install everything off random binaries downloaded via browser like you're on Windows, this hasn't been The Reality™ on Linux in years.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Unless you install everything off random binaries downloaded via browser like you're on Windows, this hasn't been The Reality™ on Linux in years.

The last attempt I made at running musl was a few months ago. And it definitely is still a reality. And you have to use "random" binaries, i.e. ones from other package managers, or ones you get from a projects github on these. Like void just didn't doesn't have a package for mullvad-vpn. You can add one in xbps-src but it doesn't work. So I tried to git clone it, and build it myself on it. But under musl I couldn't get it to build, and function properly. Then eventually I gave up and installed the nix package manager, and and worked around everything manually using that. Which is a pain. When on glibc, I could have just used the xbps-src build, and I would have been done.

I have a hard time believing someone saying musl on linux just werks. It might for 90% of programs. But that 90% doesn't matter if the 10% end up being programs I use every day.

 

[Radovan Karadžić]

I have a hard time believing someone saying musl on linux just werks. It might for 90% of programs. But that 90% doesn't matter if the 10% end up being programs I use every day.

Basically my experience. At one time I ran Alpine Linux on my home server because smaller size = higher performance. Anything that was on apk ran just fine, but anything else just didn't work, no matter how much gcompat you threw at it.
Eventually I moved to the soy Ubuntu because it jest werks.

 

[AnOminous]

While I agree that the Stallman witch hunt was a complete gayop, and people who participated in spreading the slander should be isolated in a mental institution, I have to mention that KF is not your personal army, and we are not some autistic illuminati. So turn down the emotions, dont touch the cows.

Behead those who insult Stallman.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Behead those who insult Stallman.

Just let Stallman live the rest of his life in peace, his only crime is being turbo autistic, which is also why he was such a big part of FOSS

 

[volatile puar]

Just let Stallman live the rest of his life in peace, his only crime is being turbo autistic, which is also why he was such a big part of FOSS

Stallman was so autistic that he managed to convince several corporations to drop the advertising clause from their software licenses, and convinced Apple to fix the APSL.

 

[CryptoHermit]

https://overthewire.org/wargames/
Never knew about this! A gamified progression for web security.

Spoiler: Codecel on Youtube going thru them

 

[WielkiWapiesz2137]

Behead those who insult Stallman.

Inshallah commence the GNU/Jihad!

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Inshallah commence the GNU/Jihad!

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Jihad is in fact GNU/Jihad, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Jihad. Jihad is not a movement unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU core aqeedah, fiqh utilities, shell imams, and vital dawah components comprising a complete framework as defined by classical ijma and POSIX-al-Sharia compliance.

Many akhi computers run a modified version of the GNU system very day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Jihad, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project in a state of permanent halal compilation.

There really is a Jihad, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Jihad is the kernel: the process in the system that allocates barakah and resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but haram and useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Jihad is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Jihad added, or GNU/Jihad. All the so-called Jihad distributions are really distributions of GNU/Jihad, assembled from free components, legacy hadith packages, and community-maintained fatwa repositories into a unified and inshallah stable release.

 

[Cherenkovblue]

Behead those who insult Stallman.

Stallman is a kufr whose incompetence is an insult to the prophet (pbuh), no matter what fancy words he may speak in the prophet's defense.

Just let Stallman live the rest of his life in peace, his only crime is being turbo autistic, which is also why he was such a big part of FOSS

His true crime is being an incompetent ass who wanted to be the guy to run everything without having the people skills or concentration to actually pull it off. I suspect we'll have to wait until after he's dead before people will finally admit he was wrong about, well, pretty much anything. There's still too many people invested in his personal crusade to admit he might be wrong, incompetent, and/or malevolent about anything... despite 40 fucking years of evidence of all three.

The GPL doesn't stop corpos from hoovering up your software and paying you nothing, but somehow the MIT/BSD crowd are the cucks. I find this perspective truly extraordinary (and gay).

 

[The Real Slim Shady]

His true crime is being an incompetent ass who wanted to be the guy to run everything without having the people skills or concentration to actually pull it off.

GCC and other GNU utilities runs the entire world's software. Enjoy paying Keil or Microsoft for your C compiler.

GPL at least makes it mandatory to publish the source code changes. Despite being unenforceable in many cases, it at least puts this in writing, as opposed to the hippie MIT/BSD fags who are like "please please at least credit us (but not too loudly because you cannot advertise using our names)". So with BSD software the company takes everything and maybe they will put your name somehwere deep in the third level of context menus in the "About" window.

 

[Hannibalistique]

Honestly I don't know why people haven't moved over to MPV, it's nice, clean and very configurable.

Also far less bloated.

old post, but it's a common misconception that just needs to be corrected: vlc is actually (mostly) pretty lean C code (especially compared to some of the cowboy code in mpv after the original author was run off), they just (for better and worse) on a plugin-first architecture that has a lot of overhead (but also avoids loading any "bloat" you don't need).