Opera browser - what was your reason to uninstall? - Besides the fact that it's chink spyware

Lone Wandering Courier said:
for a time back in the 2010s I had to use a shitty Intel Atom board with 512MB of RAM (that came inside an ATX case for some reason) for web browsing and the old pre-chrome opera was one of the few browsers I could use on it. I had to switch away when they made the switch to chrome and for a while I played around with Pale Moon and Midori.
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That's why the Wii used it. The old Presto engine was incredibly good at running in memory constrained environments.
 
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I think I used Opera very, very briefly, and then just switched to Firefox because it had some plugins I wanted, and used that for years and years until Brave came along.

I also feel like Opera was a nice browser on early Android, or maybe iOS, I can't remember. I haven't used it in years, anyway.
 
The abandonment of the Presto engine has been a disaster for the web space. E.g: Presto Opera would allow you to highlight a hyperlink when you hold LMB and move your mouse over it. Chromium and Gecko-based browser instead start dragging it! You need to make sure that the mouse isn't touching it before you do that.
Why the fuck would I need to drag a hyperlink?!​
 
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While we're at it: what's the best browser?

I've been using Firefox for a while now but it was certainly cooler before. Years back I used to have it running with a million scripts and all but right now I just have https everywhere and a basic adblocker—not that different from every other browser under the sun. At least I really like how the download manager works for Firefox.

I also have Firefox in my phone, mainly for the adblocker plugin. I haven't rooted my phone because last time I tried I bricked a phone and I'm a pussy, so I rely on the browser to do all the adblocking for me.
 
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I just have https everywhere and a basic adblocker
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I don't think HTTPS Everywhere is very useful these days. It hearkens back to an era when sites would only offer HTTPS opportunistically and normies typing "google.com" in the address bar would end up on http://google.com. You can enable HTTPS-only in Firefox but basically any site worth a damn will send HSTS headers (except the Kiwi Farms! (edit: looks like Josh got my letters. He has started sending HSTS headers now)) that instruct your browser to only access the site over HTTPS and will 301 any http:// traffic to https://.

Also if you're using anything other than uBlock Origin as your ad blocker, you fucked up.
 
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I moved to Vivaldi after opera sold out to the Chinese, then to brave a few years later.
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How do you cope with their crypto scams? That is why I moved AWAY from Brave.

Nuns with guns said:
While we're at it: what's the best browser?
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They all suck now days. On Windows I'm sticking with Edge as it's meh - just works. On Linux - whatever. On iOS - also Edge.

Distended Gunt said:
Also if you're using anything other than uBlock Origin as your ad blocker, you fucked up.
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Just use DNS ad blocker on your router or separate homelab container that will filter all traffic. I've switched from pihole to AdGuard home and I have zero complaints.
 
Kennedy Space Center said:
How do you cope with their crypto scams? That is why I moved AWAY from Brave.
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I don't know what you mean by crypto scams.

The shitty adverts they have in their ad programme sometimes? I have ads turned off
BAT itself? Not a scam, it was a good idea that didn't properly survive contact with the real world.
 
Ronnie McNutt said:
i think the only time i have used opera in my life was the wii browser
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That's why the Wii used it. The old Presto engine was incredibly good at running in memory constrained environments.
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So the Wii used Opera? Hmm. Learn something new every day. Makes sense with how small the storage was.

Personally I use Brave for my PC needs. Learned of it from here, like it's adblock, runs faster than Chrome, adblock is built in. Opera being chinese owned is just another reason not to install
 
Dandelion Eyes said:
The abandonment of the Presto engine has been a disaster for the web space. E.g: Presto Opera would allow you to highlight a hyperlink when you hold LMB and move your mouse over it. Chromium and Gecko-based browser instead start dragging it! You need to make sure that the mouse isn't touching it before you do that.
Why the fuck would I need to drag a hyperlink?!​
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So you could drag it up top to open it in a new tab if you're using a 1990s era Apple mouse with no middle or right click, I guess.

Nuns with guns said:
While we're at it: what's the best browser?

I've been using Firefox for a while now but it was certainly cooler before. Years back I used to have it running with a million scripts and all but right now I just have https everywhere and a basic adblocker—not that different from every other browser under the sun. At least I really like how the download manager works for Firefox.

I also have Firefox in my phone, mainly for the adblocker plugin. I haven't rooted my phone because last time I tried I bricked a phone and I'm a pussy, so I rely on the browser to do all the adblocking for me.
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All currently supported browsers that are usable are some flavour of Google's engine or Mozilla's engine. Those engines have been repackaged into various browsers, but at the end of the day, you have two choices. Do you want to suck tranny dick or corporate dick? Pick your poison.

There's also Safari, I guess, but who the fuck uses Safari?
 
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The last time I used Opera was in the mid 2000s. It was my primary browser until Firefox stole all the features I liked (or got extensions that did it for them). My interest in Opera ceased entirely when they adopted WebKit (and later Blink) as their rendering engine because then I could just use Chromium and get better support for everything anyway.

The near-monoculture in the browser space is a massive fucking problem and I wish more companies would stand up against it. Safari is the main outlier although it uses WebKit which is not really that different from Blink anyway.
 
Nuns with guns said:
While we're at it: what's the best browser?
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I like the new Mullvad Browser, but it's clearly for grey neckbeards. I still use Firefox, IMO it's the least-worst, not very normie-friendly. Brave is the best for normies:
  • it's patched Chromium,
  • Chrome extensions work,
  • you don't need the crypto bloat and can turn it off,
  • sync works well and doesn't need an account,
  • Brave search is better than DDG,
  • and the cherry on top is out-of-the-box Tor windows.
 
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Dandelion Eyes said:
The abandonment of the Presto engine has been a disaster for the web space. E.g: Presto Opera would allow you to highlight a hyperlink when you hold LMB and move your mouse over it. Chromium and Gecko-based browser instead start dragging it! You need to make sure that the mouse isn't touching it before you do that.
Why the fuck would I need to drag a hyperlink?!​
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I've been using Opera Presto and then Vivaldi for so long I didn't even realize this isn't a standard. The other two browsers I have, Brave and Firefox, can't do that. Vivaldi can because it's Jon von Tetzchner's project to rebuilt Opera Presto on Chromium, and he was probably the one to implement it in Presto in the first place. :story:
 
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I mean, if you want an un-googled chrome, then there are straight up better options. Brave, for example. Or just use Chrome, and don't log in.
 
When I was in my teens, I remember reading a fan fic where there was a paragraph or so dedicated to the virtues of Opera as a browser. It was really weird because I only had it on the Wii and my DS.
 
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Uninstalled Opera when they changed to Chromium and removed half the features. Vivaldi is where the old Opera dev team went and it's basically old Opera
 
There's no reason to use opera, and really, there basically never was. I tried it years ago, and while some of the features it had were kinda cool, I could still use a firefox extension to do mostly the same thing. I just use vivaldi for most stuff now, and the tor browser for the farms. I tried brave, but wasn't impressed.

And yeah, if the chinese own it now, it would be stupid to even install it.
 
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