Operation Breaking Dawn - The cycle of violence continues

[Queen Elizabeth II]

The fight is already in Europe. We already have terror bombings and swarms of darkies flooding in. The Israeli conflict hasn't put a "cap" on anything.
Hamas et al aren't going to suddenly board planes and airdrop into London if they take over Israel. The existence of Israel has absolutely no bearing on me, and Is not somehow tying up the majority of Moslem resources that would otherwise be poured into Jihading the rest of the world.

I am not interested in wasting money/resources sending them to Israel for basically the same reason I am not interested in sending them to The Ukraine.

Then you're a pussy and you will still none the less be roped into world war three or four when Vlad decides actually he'd like Alaska back as he has actually already said.

If it's not the rest of the world, it'll be you.

 

[St.Davis]

Then you're a pussy and you will still none the less be roped into world war three or four when Vlad decides actually he'd like Alaska back as he has actually already said.

If it's not the rest of the world, it'll be you.

Yeah, sure he will. Did you think Iraq had yellowcake, too?

Please keep keep chugging retarded fear-mongering propaganda.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Let them kill each other. Palestine and Israel are both shit for different reasons.


Still evil. They attacked a US Naval vessel and lied through their teeth about it. That should have been a straight up act of war. Japan did that, and we dropped two nukes on them, but Israel got a pass? Fuck that.

lol the israelis publicly apologized and paid out millions of dollars in restitution, what else do you want from them?

All the good that came from this is corrupted by naming an operation after a Twilight movie. What happened did Operation Mean Girls and Operation 27 Dresses not get funding or do proper IPB.

Breaking Dawn is a reference to PIJ tending to name their operations X Dawn with the moment of dawn being important in Islam. Breaking dawn is a play on words.

The truce with PIJ has held:

66 hours of fighting in numbers:
1,100 rockets fired at Israel, 200 fall short in Gaza, 380 interceptions at 95-97% rate. Note that Iron Dome only intercepts if it is determined that the rocket is heading towards a population center.

According to Israel: 35 killed in IDF strikes, including 11 uninvolved civilians. Another 16 killed by failed rockets.
According to Hamas: The Hamas-run health ministry says 44 were killed during the fighting.

170 PIJ targets were hit


Video of failed PIJ rocket hitting inside gaza:

Video of the IDF calling off an airstrike bc there were kids in the area:

IDF airstrikes:

PIJ propaganda footage of them shooting rockets:

Israel is not planning to release PIJ senior prisoners in exchange for a ceasefire. It seems like the only thing PIJ is getting in this ceasefire is that Israel stops striking them. Hamas sits to the side still doing nothing.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Hamas sits to the side still doing nothing.

Why would they help a competitor?

(Rhetorical question)

 

[Wormy]

lol the israelis publicly apologized and paid out millions of dollars in restitution, what else do you want from them?

"We didn't do anything wrong, but we're sorry." pfft.

And what did I want? For us to respond in kind.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

"We didn't do anything wrong, but we're sorry." pfft.

And what did I want? For us to respond in kind.

Israel admitted fault, there was literally no "We didn't do anything wrong" statement

Why would they help a competitor?

(Rhetorical question)

PIJ and Hamas have teamed up before to fight Israel in the past wars.

 

[Wormy]

Israel admitted fault, there was literally no "We didn't do anything wrong" statement

That why they tried to lie about the Liberty being a completely different vessel?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

That why they tried to lie about the Liberty being a completely different vessel?

They said they confused it for a different vessel and that's why they attacked it. When they realized it was American they backed off. Why would they want to attack an American ship during a war where they relied heavily on the USA to keep the balance with the USSR, esp considering that the Arab states (excluding jordan) were Soviet sponsored?

 

[Dial M for Misgender]

Yeah, sure he will. Did you think Iraq had yellowcake, too?

Please keep keep chugging retarded fear-mongering propaganda.

And why didn't Iraq still have a nuclear program?

 

[Wormy]

They said they confused it for a different vessel and that's why they attacked it.

A different vessel that it looked NOTHING LIKE.

When they realized it was American they backed off.

If by backed off you mean "They machinegunned the lifeboats"

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

A different vessel that it looked NOTHING LIKE.

If by backed off you mean "They machinegunned the lifeboats"

Avoiding the question:

Why would they want to attack an American ship during a war where they relied heavily on the USA to keep the balance with the USSR, esp considering that the Arab states (excluding jordan) were Soviet sponsored?

And they did machine gun the lifeboats before they backed off.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Another 16 killed by failed rockets.

Damn, a negative K/D ratio is not new in this conflict but no Israeli died and more than a 1/3 of the Palestinian casualties is from their own side.
Besides the huge failure of the Jihad this operation shows the Palestinian rocket strategy has outlived its usefulness, and that no one gives a shit about the Palestinians anymore (the inflation and Putler are more important) which is catastrophic for the Palestinian grifting industry.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

A different vessel that it looked NOTHING LIKE.

If by backed off you mean "They machinegunned the lifeboats"

Nothing happened and even if it did, you amerisharts deserved it.

Damn, a negative K/D ratio is not new in this conflict but no Israeli died and more than a 1/3 of the Palestinian casualties is from their own side.
Besides the huge failure of the Jihad this operation shows the Palestinian rocket strategy has outlived its usefulness, and that no one gives a shit about the Palestinians anymore (the inflation and Putler are more important) which is catastrophic for the Palestinian grifting industry.

I at least expected Hamas to join in the festivities but looks like they're still buck broken from last time.

 

[Foltest]

If by backed off you mean "They machinegunned the lifeboats"

Do you have any source to back up this claim?
I swear, in all my times I have heard about the USS Liberty incident, I have never heard about them machine gun the boats.

 

[Wormy]

Do you have any source to back up this claim?
I swear, in all my times I have heard about the USS Liberty incident, I have never heard about them machine gun the boats.

Here ya go. Bolded for emphasis.

USS Liberty: Little-Known Tale Of Betrayal And Cover Up| Countercurrents

This column is about events so counterintuitive that Hollywood would reject the plot as being too unbelievable. Fifty years ago on June 8th, another nation

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"After the air attack ended, three torpedo boats appeared and came in for the kill. They opened fire with 20 and 40-mm guns and torpedoes. One torpedo hit just below the waterline and opened up a 39-foot-wide hole in the U.S. Navy ship, now basically dead in the water. The torpedo boats continued to fire armor-piercing projectiles into the ship for forty minutes.

Three lifeboats that were still usable were secured and dropped over the ship’s side. The attackers shot up two of the lifeboats and carried the third lifeboat away. Shortly afterward, more jet fighters and two assault helicopters carrying armed troops appeared. However, before the final assault, these aircraft suddenly departed."

Israel’s Attack on USS Liberty – The Full Story | VT | Alternative Foreign Policy Media

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"First: It was impossible for the attacking Israelis not to know the identity of their target. From the masthead on the ensign staff the Liberty was proudly flying the standard American flag -five feet by eight feet. The ship’s US Navy markings, GTR-5, were on both sides of its bows in white letters and a figure ten feet high. And the ship’s name was clearly visible on its stern. Not to mention the sophisticated system of radio antennae."

"Phase two of the attack was executed by three Israeli motor torpedo boats (MTBs). The Liberty’s crew were fighting the fires caused by the air attack when the MTBs announced their arrival by opening up with their 0.20-mm and 0.40-mm guns. Their main task was to sink the Liberty. For that purpose – could there have been any other? – they fired three torpedoes. One struck the communications room dead centre in Number 3 hold, killing in an instant 25 of the 34 men who died in the entire attack. The 25, including the “Major”, were entombed in the flooded wreckage."

"The order “Prepare to abandon ship!” was followed, naturally, by the lowering of the first lifeboats. As they touched the water the Israeli MTBs moved closer and shot them to pieces. Among the Liberty crewmen who witnessed this was Petty Officer Charles Rowley. He also observed the concentration of machine-gun fire on the life-boats still stored on deck. After the attack he carefully photographed the shredded boats, thinking that one day his pictures would help to tell a story. When eventually he told it to Stephen Green, Rowley said, “They didn’t want anybody to live.”

Avoiding the question:

Why would they want to attack an American ship during a war where they relied heavily on the USA to keep the balance with the USSR, esp considering that the Arab states (excluding jordan) were Soviet sponsored?

And they did machine gun the lifeboats before they backed off.

Great question.

Whatever it was, it sure as shit wasn't "We thought it was another vessel". They knew who they were shooting at.

Still, that they did it and lied badly about it later doesn't mean shit to me. We should have straight up invaded and tore Israel to pieces for what they did to us.

 

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Great question.

Whatever it was, it sure as shit wasn't "We thought it was another vessel". They knew who they were shooting at.

Still, that they did it and lied badly about it later doesn't mean shit to me. We should have straight up invaded and tore Israel to pieces for what they did to us.

I think the prevailing theory is that Israel intended to blame the attack against the USS Liberty on Egypt in the hopes that the US would directly join the war with Israel against Egypt, and possibly even regime change Egypt. This is probably why Israel was so adamant about destroying the life boats: they wanted to kill everyone on the Liberty so there would be no survivors to contradict the Israeli version of events. Unfortunately for them, they failed to do that and enough American sailors survived to positively ID the attackers as Israeli, leaving Israel to claim they mistook the Liberty for an Egyptian ship to explain why they attacked it (despite the fact that Egypt didn't have any ships that resembled the Liberty, the Liberty was covered in American flags, and the sailors identified themselves as Americans several times over the radio during the attack).

This wouldn't be the first attempt at a false flag against Egypt. There's also the Lavon Affair (aka Operation Susannah), where in 1954 Jewish terrorists working for the Israeli government attempted to launch a number of attacks against American and British nationals in Egypt in the hopes of blaming the attacks on Egyptians. The idea was that this would create enough tension between Egypt and the west such that western countries would be more open to taking military action against Egypt, particularly in the Sinai. The plan fell apart when Egyptian detectives arrested an Israeli agent who intended to firebomb a theater with Americans inside. After arresting him, they found evidence in his hotel room implicating the other Jewish conspirators who were subsequently arrested and either jailed or executed.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

This wouldn't be the first attempt at a false flag against Egypt. There's also the Lavon Affair (aka Operation Susannah), where in 1954 Jewish terrorists working for the Israeli government attempted to launch a number of attacks against American and British nationals in Egypt in the hopes of blaming the attacks on Egyptians.

Operation Susannah was definitely underhanded on the part of Israeli intelligence, although it should be noted that the bombs involved in the operation were timed to go off after closing hours, meaning that no civilian was intended to be harmed. This places the Israelis very much in stark contrast to their Islamist enemies, who not only routinely target civilians as a matter of course, but do so openly and brazenly.

 

[Lengthy Sex Derail]

Operation Susannah was definitely underhanded on the part of Israeli intelligence, although it should be noted that the bombs involved in the operation were timed to go off after closing hours, meaning that no civilian was intended to be harmed. This places the Israelis very much in stark contrast to their Islamist enemies, who not only routinely target civilians as a matter of course, but do so openly and brazenly.

Come the fuck on, dude. Do you think anyone is impressed by their desire to avoid harming civilians while trying to drag the USA into another war in the middle east? Do you think that there'd be no civilian casualties involved in something like that? You may as well praise and congratulate me for being a good person if I try to steal your life-savings without physically harming you - after all, a muslim would behead you and take your money. I'm just taking your money instead, so I'm a lot better than those "islamist enemies".

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Come the fuck on, dude. Do you think anyone is impressed by their desire to avoid harming civilians while trying to drag the USA into another war in the middle east? Do you think that there'd be no civilian casualties involved in something like that? You may as well praise and congratulate me for being a good person if I try to steal your life-savings without physically harming you - after all, a muslim would behead you and take your money. I'm just taking your money instead, so I'm a lot better than those "islamist enemies".

I don't think anyone should be impressed by a desire to avoid harming civilians; I think people should expect it as a bare minimum, and when one side clearly expects this of themselves in a way that their enemy does not, I think that people should take note of that.

 

[Lengthy Sex Derail]

I don't think anyone should be impressed by a desire to avoid harming civilians; I think people should expect it as a bare minimum, and when one side clearly expects this of themselves in a way that their enemy does not, I think that people should take note of that.

This entire point falls apart when you remember that Israel used white phosphorus in Gaza, or look at any of the other giant laundry list of awful deeds that nation committed. You might be able to trick dumb Americans raised on an information diet consisting solely of CNN and Fox News but I don't know why you'd even try to launder claims like that on the internet where people can just go and look up what Israel has actually done.