OsenZedd ontologically self-immolates in front of a live audience.

[AnOminous]

I think it comes directly from the Nazi thing. Someone in a philosophy 101 class said that Nazis are an example of ontological evil.

This is also clearly wrong. Oskar Schindler was a Nazi, for instance, that meaning a member of the Nazi Party. If that itself is the evil, then it isn't existential, someone could have been a member while ignorant of the purpose of the organization, or could quit and begin fighting it themselves. That's not ontological evil, that's moral evil.

I think it is doubtful there even is any such thing as ontological evil, because it involves entities incapable of change, that is, incapable of thought, and an entity incapable of thought is incapable of evil, which is a choice. So I suppose you could say something like zombies would be "ontologically evil" but they aren't even capable of morality. It would be as ridiculous to claim that a boulder that fell on you was ontologically evil, when it's only evil because it's evil towards you.

 

[Null]

I think it is doubtful there even is any such thing as ontological evil, because it involves entities incapable of change, that is, incapable of thought, and an entity incapable of thought is incapable of evil, which is a choice. So I suppose you could say something like zombies would be "ontologically evil" but they aren't even capable of morality. It would be as ridiculous to claim that a boulder that fell on you was ontologically evil, when it's only evil because it's evil towards you.

I think any criminal mind that is propelled by sexual urges can't be fixed. Even chemical castration doesn't stop sex offenders from re-offending. You have to use the bullet.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

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It's absolutely ridiculous how well that holds up in the current day.

 

[AnOminous]

I think any criminal mind that is propelled by sexual urges can't be fixed. Even chemical castration doesn't stop sex offenders from re-offending. You have to use the bullet.

As popular a belief as this is, the actual stats don't agree. As a general class, sex offenses have among the lowest recidivism rates.

Violent crimes in general have lower recidivism rates. Of course, they also have longer sentences, so possibly many of them have aged out of the behavior by the time they're released, but whatever the reason, rapists are not often recidivists.

 

[AMHOLIO]

It's absolutely ridiculous how well that holds up in the current day.

John Cleese is a smart motherfucker and I'm glad he's given us so much good shit.

 

[A Man on Fire]

As popular a belief as this is, the actual stats don't agree. As a general class, sex offenses have among the lowest recidivism rates.
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Violent crimes in general have lower recidivism rates. Of course, they also have longer sentences, so possibly many of them have aged out of the behavior by the time they're released, but whatever the reason, rapists are not often recidivists.

However, child diddlers beget more child diddlers diddling future diddlers. It’s a crime that feeds more crime like oxygen to flame. Also, children are fundamentally innocent in a way that no one else is.

 

[AnOminous]

However, child diddlers beget more child diddlers diddling future diddlers. It’s a crime that feeds more crime like oxygen to flame. Also, children are fundamentally innocent in a way that no one else is.

Serial criminals particularly obsessed with one kind of crime tend to be nearly 100% recidivists, but the typical rapist is a one time deal. Now, it's a reasonable position that just doing that once means you deserve getting domed, but recidivism isn't a great justification for that.

 

[Faggitory]

It's this meme.

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I think it comes directly from the Nazi thing. Someone in a philosophy 101 class said that Nazis are an example of ontological evil. This became a meme with one of the trannies in the class who posted that it's OK to kill Trump voters because they were Nazis. This propagates on Discord in that meme context. Now, anyone you don't like is a subhuman evil incarnate.

This is how you get people committing warcrimes btw. Mass dehumanization.

But the best part is how this meme is supposed to be satire. At least, I'm sure it is. Isn't that character some kind of deranged dude, and therefore the joke is supposed to be that YOU'RE the bad guy if you relate to his? Yet people consistantly get this wrong with both the meme and the character.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

As popular a belief as this is, the actual stats don't agree. As a general class, sex offenses have among the lowest recidivism rates.
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Violent crimes in general have lower recidivism rates. Of course, they also have longer sentences, so possibly many of them have aged out of the behavior by the time they're released, but whatever the reason, rapists are not often recidivists.

Am I reading the graph wrong? Lowest recidivist rate I see is over 60 percent, is way too high....

 

[Chuck]

As popular a belief as this is, the actual stats don't agree. As a general class, sex offenses have among the lowest recidivism rates.
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Violent crimes in general have lower recidivism rates. Of course, they also have longer sentences, so possibly many of them have aged out of the behavior by the time they're released, but whatever the reason, rapists are not often recidivists.

Aging out of crime is a somewhat contested topic, but in general sexual assailants recidivate less than other criminals because they are more closely monitored and separated from society. Also, in many jurisdictions, police monitor sexual criminals' computers and the condition of their release is that they don't watch porn which has been shown to be a contributing factor to recidivism. Rapists may recidivate less but any recidivism is too much recidivism.

I think any criminal mind that is propelled by sexual urges can't be fixed. Even chemical castration doesn't stop sex offenders from re-offending. You have to use the bullet.

there was a korean study which, among other things, showed the rates of recidivism in rapists drop from about 50% to 2%-5% after surgical castration. I have no problem with putting them against the wall, since that reduces recidivism to 0, but you can't utter such things in criminological circles

also on the ontologically evil thing, when they say one is ontologically evil (when they really mean essentially evil) they say that that person in evil irrespective of any beliefs that they have - that something inherent in them that can't be changed makes them evil. if they want to misuse a philosophical term to call their ideological adversaries evil, they're probably looking for epistemology which is the study of how knowledge is obtained. I'm not surprised that trannies have a tenuous at best grasp on philosophy, though

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

I have no problem with putting them against the wall, since that reduces recidivism to 0, but you can't utter such things in criminological circles

That's weak.

 

[William]

The fact that Orson's username is spelled wrong in the thread title is a great cherry on top of the whole incident.

 

[Null]

there was a korean study which, among other things, showed the rates of recidivism in rapists drop from about 50% to 2%-5% after surgical castration. I have no problem with putting them against the wall, since that reduces recidivism to 0, but you can't utter such things in criminological circles

Yeah well criminologists are fags which is why we don't kill enough people anymore

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom]

Trannies are less human than abbos.

Stop it you have gone too far.. abbos are literal flaural and fauna

 

[Jack Awful]

ontologically evil

I'm a huge fan of how braindead retards are using big words to justify why it's ok to be thoughtless rage monkeys that literally want to murder people for disagreeing with them.

 

[Null]

As popular a belief as this is, the actual stats don't agree. As a general class, sex offenses have among the lowest recidivism rates.

yeah those first three are mostly going to be actual socioeconomic crimes as opposed to sex offenses which have no other motivation besides a brain.

this is also people who got caught and people who get caught for stupid shit like gangbanging get caught again.

 

[Kiwi Farms Lurker]

Did @OrsonZedd 41% they/themselves?

 

[The Internet Dick]

Her name is Clara. I get you don't like Keffals, but if you don't like trans people, you're ontologically evil, and if you're deadnaming her because you personally don't like her, you're just a straight up dickbag.

EDIT: also I have to ask how many of you are cool with trying to use the police to murder people you don't like? Because it feels like a lot

I don't ascribe to your belief system; hence, your conception of evil differs wildly from my own. No power on earth can make me even pretend to buy into a lie. Her name isn't Clara. His name is Lucas. Lucas is a flaming fucking psychopath who had his dick cut off to feed into his delusions. I'll call him what I like.

And please drop usage of the word 'ontologically'. Unless you're talking quantum mechanics, a given thing either is or it isn't. Using intensifiers such as literally and ontologically doesn't magically reinforce the reality of whatever it is you're describing.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Did @OrsonZedd 41% they/themselves?

Last seen on twitter in this screenshot. In character.... Very strange bit of copium in that last sentence....

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

As popular a belief as this is, the actual stats don't agree. As a general class, sex offenses have among the lowest recidivism rates.
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Violent crimes in general have lower recidivism rates. Of course, they also have longer sentences, so possibly many of them have aged out of the behavior by the time they're released, but whatever the reason, rapists are not often recidivists.

I have a theory to explain this:
Maybe violent criminals learn opsec after being caught. Unlike Alan.