Our Political Leanings

Which ideology do you agree with the most?

  • Conservative (Republican)

    Votes: 42 18.5%

  • Liberal (Democrat)

    Votes: 12 5.3%

  • Socialist (International, Democratic, Libertarian, etc.)

    Votes: 19 8.4%

  • Communist (Maoist, Leninist, Stalinist, etc.)

    Votes: 7 3.1%

  • Anarchist (Anarcho-Syndicalism, Anarcho-Communism, Queer Anarchism, etc.)

    Votes: 7 3.1%

  • Libertarian (Anarcho-Capitlaism)

    Votes: 33 14.5%

  • National Socialism (Third Positionism, Nationalism, Strasserism, etc.)

    Votes: 35 15.4%

  • Centrist (Center-Left, Center-Right, Moderate)

    Votes: 48 21.1%

  • Apolitical (dgaf about politics)

    Votes: 24 10.6%
  • Total voters
    227
I agree that the right is somewhat leaderless and fractured right now. It is a changing time for the US, and that inherently benefits the left. Eventually, the political climate will settle down, progressivism will accomplish its goals and diminish, and the people who support gay marriage, etc will become the conservatives as attitudes gradually change. As someone who identifies as center-right, I honestly think that the Democrats needed to be in power after Bush. They matched the heart of the American people, and put important social issues in the spotlight - even if I think they overstepped by a wide margin with the power of the federal government. 2008-2016 with an anti-gay, pro life, anti stem cell research Washington is a terrifying thing to consider. But now I think the country has adopted those issues pretty strongly, and no Republican who wants to get elected would dare raise any significant fuss about them.

Politics is a game of overcompensation. We lurched to the right in 2000, which allowed us to lurch so far in the opposite direction eight years later. I'm just hoping now that we get something in between next time. Preferably an outsider to the beltway.
 
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Tubular Monkey said:
I'm just hoping now that we get something in between next time. Preferably an outsider to the beltway.
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Not gonna happen. I don't think there's a chance in hell of an outsider making it into a main-party primary even because both parties have learned, if nothing else, that the only way to win is to pick somebody who's intimately familiar with politicking and groom the fuck out of them, and a majority-wins system tends to lead to two parties that basically choose polar opposite positions.
 
I'm a liberal who votes Democratic - for now. But I haven't been especially happy with the Dems lately. Congressional Republicans are like bullies who steal your lunch money, and the Democrats are like the cowering weenies who let them get away with it.

When it comes to social issues, I'm generally liberal/libertarian. I don't give a crap if gay people get married, or if citizens of Colorado smoke a little pot. As someone else aptly stated: "do what you want, within reason; don't be a dick about it". That pretty much sums up my feelings.

On fiscal issues, I'm also liberal. I don't have a problem with Capitalism, but I think that unfettered Capitalism - such as the type that caused the Great Recession - should be curbed with regulation and vigilance. I think that big corporations (whom I tend not to trust) have a tendency to only think in terms of The Bottom Line and completely ignore the human and environmental cost of their policies.

I'd post my Political Compass results, but to be honest, I don't know how accurate such political tests are for me. I often find that political questions aren't easily answered with a 'yes' or 'no'. Example: one of the questions on the Political Compass is: "should prayer be allowed in public school?".

Well, that depends on what kind of prayer you mean. Voluntary prayer led by teachers? No, that's a violation of church/state separation. But any prayer at all? Of course students should be allowed to pray. It just shouldn't be distracting, and the government (and its representatives) should have nothing to do with it.
 
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I'm pretty far left as it gets. Total democrat. But I've lost fate in the current political shit going down in Congress. Both sides are more interested in beating each other than helping their people (maybe the Republicans more than the Democrats, but that's my bias).

I like Marxist theory. I like the idea of communism, but I know it will never succeed. People like ADF make me sick. You can't enforce it onto people. And even if it works, there'll be one megalomaniac and a bunch of people whose opinions are easily swayed to turn it into something it's not.
 
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ADF is such a weird nugget.
He's all for the communism and claims to admire communist leaders and is now converting to buddhism.
I guess he doesn't know how Mao treated the Buddhists and that communist countries tend to see trans people as a result of "capitalism corrupting the people" or something.
 
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ADF is such a weird nugget.
He's all for the communism and claims to admire communist leaders and is now converting to buddhism.
I guess he doesn't know how Mao treated the Buddhists and that communist countries tend to see trans people as a result of "capitalism corrupting the people" or something.
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Just saying as a guy posting from China, does "Chinese studies" in uni and can speak Chinese i see Monks all the time, religon has been tolerated here since Mao, hense why China's temples, Mosques and Churches still stand today. Please don't belive all the news you see about China, you will really would be shocked if you lived here for 6 months. Pretty much everything the west says is a lie.

Although as someone who eats Dove chocoate and Addidas sneakers i do try and follow the book and i do sort of belive the whole trans thing, not that doing it is created by capitalism but campness is a quite western in the sense many people i knew who came out started speaking with American voices! Not saying its wrong, do whatever, but he had a point on the American influence. I am defending my point so yeah allow me, i'm not attacking for forcing my veiws on anyone.

ADF also belives China and Israel should be mates and had some gay Nazi art once i saw >.>
 
junglist said:
I'm not going to rage on a internet forum but all i will say is that if you go to this country and see how this country has changed since 1949 its pretty much down to one man and it will change your mind, we all need to change ideas and politics/movements etc otherwise we never move forward. He lifted millions out of poverty and in my eyes (and most of the populations) empowered the people. I will leave it at that.
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Yet I do not hear you mention the cultural revolution and the millions he murdered in the name of this "advancement". He was one of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, if not the greatest. I don't know about you, my dictator-loving homie, but genocide is simply inexcusable.

Tibetans. Mongolians. The Uyghur people, and the families of countless murdered and silenced dissidents would disagree with your assessment of how much of a great place China is. And when a close (Chinese native) friend of mine went there, I stopped seeing facebook updates from him for months... I'll aways side-eye any nations that censors the internet access, political rights and freedom of speech of it's people.

I don't care how many people you claim Mao lifted out of poverty, when he lifted so many millions out of life. He's right up there with Stalin and Hitler and only the likes of ADF would think otherwise. No offense to brainwashed Chinese natives, of course who've been told from birth Mao is such a great guy. After all, many North-Koreans still think Kim Jong-un is a mighty swell fellow.
 
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Surely China under Kuomintang (which such opportunist of Chinese Communisty Party as Mao supported, delivering workers of Shanghai and Canton in 1927 to Chiang Kai-shek; I'm nort sure if they explicitly were for the supression of the revolt, but the massacre was certainly a result of their alliance with national bourgeoisie and it didn't made them revise this policy) was shit, but did things really get that better? It's like they say to us in the West, that there's no working class anymore because people work with computers and have their own cars.

Also, what Satan said- you can say that he lifted many people out of poverty, but at what price? I don't think Chinese workers and peasants (that were so much of focus to Maoists) benefitted from Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution. No, it's not Western propaganda. It's hard to make such a big shit up completely, it's like saying that Holocaust was a hoax. Mao, allied with a section of the bourgeoisie ("Bloc of Four Classes"), established highly exploitative state capitalist regime.
 
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I think he can't say it in fear that Chinese internet filters will track his opinions and well... unperson him or something.
That is all I'm going to say
 
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Satan said:
Yet I do not hear you mention the cultural revolution and the millions he murdered in the name of this "advancement". He was one of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century, if not the greatest. I don't know about you, my dictator-loving homie, but genocide is simply inexcusable.

Tibetans. Mongolians. The Uyghur people, and the families of countless murdered and silenced dissidents would disagree with your assessment of how much of a great place China is. And when a close (Chinese native) friend of mine went there, I stopped seeing facebook updates from him for months... I'll aways side-eye any nations that censors the internet access, political rights and freedom of speech of it's people.

I don't care how many people you claim Mao lifted out of poverty, when he lifted so many millions out of life. He's right up there with Stalin and Hitler and only the likes of ADF would think otherwise. No offense to brainwashed Chinese natives, of course who've been told from birth Mao is such a great guy. After all, many North-Koreans still think Kim Jong-un is a mighty swell fellow.
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You can't even thank Mao for modern China, the person you need to mention is Deng Xiaoping
 
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hellbound said:
Not gonna happen. I don't think there's a chance in hell of an outsider making it into a main-party primary even because both parties have learned, if nothing else, that the only way to win is to pick somebody who's intimately familiar with politicking and groom the fuck out of them, and a majority-wins system tends to lead to two parties that basically choose polar opposite positions.
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Donald Trump was polling first among Republican voters when he was pretending to consider running for President.

junglist said:
He lifted millions out of poverty.
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Through what? The Great Chinese Famine?

wowMow great leap

such smart

The Dude said:
Mao was a sociopath, an egomaniac, a pedophile, and a murderer.
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Eight-year-olds, Dude.

(Seriously though, I've never heard that Mao was a pedo.)
 
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CWCissey said:
Yeah same here.

I did know however that Mao only had one testicle.
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I did not know that. But now I do.

MaoBall.jpg


Wow it appears Franco and (possibly) Hitler also only had one testicle each (or, a full set between them :ween:).

How cum :ween: dicktators :ween: seem to be missing testicles?
 
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