Personally I've found OW's lore to be boring despite how much they try to promote it and desperately try to tie it into the game which didn't work at all (Remember how much they messed up the ARG with Sombra). Honestly more game content is what most people wanted from the first OW nobody really wanted them to make excuses to why they need another game/expansion/sequel/whatever the fuck OW2 is supposed to be.
That's why i feel OW2 is more of an excuse than anything. Oh you guys say you like the PvE stuff well if you slide us some more money we won't just give you a few more we will make a whole game out of our poorly fleshed out PvE mechanics. Then you watch the playerbase try to scramble and defend this garbage by saying "well it might not be full price" when it's the context of the idea that the only selling point for OW2 is PvE and all the rest of the stuff like updated visuals can just exist in the current game.
Only "hardcore"/autistic OW players will be buying OW2. The average normie will realize the multiplayer of OW2 and OW1 are linked, so you can just continue to play with friends on your OW1 copy. The fact they're banking on hardcore fans who number in no more than 10,000 to buy a new game is pretty dumb. But then again, Ubisoft can pump out the same open world games over and over and tons of people buy that trash.
which normies still play overwatch these days tho?
It has a decent enough playercount, there's just not much going on beside "Check out how badly we've kneecaped your favorite character!" updates.
I thought the hardcore ow players and blizzard fans in general were pissed off after everything that has happened with the company. Kaplan leaving should be a red flag the size of a whole country that there is internal shit going on and their products are gonna reflect this people can see with how companies are bleeding their workers to churn out products. I type this but then i think of the amount of people who were trying to defend OW2s existence despite the unclear nature of what it is supposed to be so i might be giving too much credit.
What they've built up to from what we know is that they're just taking the Uprising formula and making a whole game out of it without adding anything interesting to it. Let's also consider they've been terrible with gameplay and story integration so I'm not expecting anything good to come out of this.
I've already seen people defend it with "it will reduce clutter" and shit.
Fuck me for playing off-tank I guess. Who the fuck is going to buy this piece of shit? Also off tanks are the best tanks dont @ me.
OW 2 is essentially just the single player content and some skins. It will play with people still using 1 for multiplayer and all changes will be forced on 1.
Competitive TF2 is 6v6, but most players preferred the competitive 9v9 (highlander format). 12v12 is the "casual" standard, although 16v16 wasn't unheard of either. Either way TF2's maps were designed in a way to handle it and it wasn't a huge deal. OW's maps and game design are much more limited in that regard (Having players do 3 tanks/3 support destroyed the game in a way OW couldn't fix without forcing 2/2/2 on players).
to be fair if you stacked a massive amount of certain classes TF2 balance(pre-hats) fell apart super easily. Heavies on a full-auto rotation mow down just about everything with only minor spot-healing. But TF2 was also about having fun and not perfectly balanced matches with strong KDAs and objectives pushed repeatedly; if you were shit as a spy, it was still satisfying to trick that one guy that usually saw thru you and the revenge play made up for it(in your own head). Getting the briefcase back or not was incidental and just a reason to map change once in awhile if happened enough.
so, battleborn?
