🐱 “Own the Libs” Is Gradually Morphing Into “Kill the Libs”

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If Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis gets his way, people who merely attend a protest that results in property damage will be prosecuted for felonies. Yelling at someone in a restaurant as part of such a protest will be a criminal offense. And a driver who kills demonstrators with his car will not be liable for their deaths, as long as he is “fleeing for safety from a mob.”

These are just a few of the policies proposed by DeSantis in a package meant to chill dissent and punish those in the streets demanding an end to racist police violence. Republican leaders in the Florida legislature have promised to file the bill in 2021. By introducing it now, DeSantis clearly hopes to rile up Trump’s base in Florida, one of the most crucial swing states, with fears of black-clad cabals rampaging through their gated communities. But the specifics of the proposal are worth close consideration, because it represents a rising consensus among conservative leaders under Donald Trump: A governing ethos that once boiled down to “troll the libs” is steadily escalating toward “kill the libs.”

As my colleague Tom Scocca observed one year ago, Trump was elected as the ultimate expression of a political party more concerned with taunting and obstructing its opposition than with any specific governing agenda. Others have notedthat, for decades, the driving principle behind the Republican project has been the conviction that people of color and their political allies are undeserving of full participation in American democracy. The push to shield those who murder protesters with their cars from criminal or civil liability, which Republican legislators have attempted to do in at least 8 states, is a particularly gruesome offshoot of these two philosophies. It’s also not solving any problematic gap in the legal sphere: Property damage is already a criminal offense; self-defense is already an accepted legal defense for causing others harm. DeSantis and his peers are simply trying to create space within the law—or the perception of it—for their political supporters to kill their political opponents.

A few years ago, after Black Lives Matter demonstrators staged protests on highways and demonstrators blocked roads at Standing Rock, Republicans around the country proposed protections for people who drove their cars through crowds of protesters. James Alex Fields Jr., who killed Heather Heyer at a Charlottesville Unite the Right rally in 2017, may have been emboldened by these bills: According to a civil suit, before Fields drove his car into a crowd of demonstrators, one of the rally’s organizers falsely claimed that “driving over protesters blocking roadways isn’t an offense,” pointing to states that had considered such bills.

This hideous tactic of suppressing political dissent is spreading. This year, in the months since protests first erupted around the country after Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd in May, two people have been killed by drivers who drove their cars through demonstrations. Dozens more have been hit. At one June protest in Memphis, two separate drivers, both of whom appear to have exhibited animosity toward protesters on social media, hit demonstrators within the span of one hour. The Sioux Rapids, Iowa, police chief called protesters “road bumps.” The Auxvasse, Missouri, police chief posted on Facebook, of protesters blocking roads, “You deserve to be run over. That will help cleanup [sic] the gene pool.”) Officers in severalother states have endorsed using cars to murder protesters.

Instead of taking action to quell this type of violence at protests, Trump and his supporters are attempting to incite more violence, and create more victims. After Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old who traveled from his home in Illinois to fight protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, killed two demonstrators with a military-style firearm he was not legally permitted to carry, Trump called it an “interesting situation” that looked justifiable. Rittenhouse “was trying to get away from them,” Trump said, of the victims. “[Rittenhouse] would have been—probably would have been killed.” That’s certainly a possibility, but instead, he killed two people.

As more Republicans spoke up about Rittenhouse, the rhetoric they used shifted from simple defense to full-on admiration. Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin said Rittenhouse’s victims were killed because the governor of Wisconsin didn’t accept Trump’s offer to send the National Guard to Kenosha. This lead people to “believe they’ve got to protect their own property and take matters into their own hands.” CNN’s Dana Bash asked him multiple times whether he condemned the shootings. All he’d say was “it’s a tragedy.” Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky has actually praised Rittenhouse for his “incredible restraint and presence and situational awareness.” Again, he killed two people.

In the popular conservative imagination, Rittenhouse has become more than just a teen who did something regrettable in the process of defending himself. By killing two protesters at a protest for Black lives, he became a righteous crusader for the Americans who really matter. Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Rittenhouse “had to maintain order when no one else would.” Former Florida attorney general Pam Bondi called him “a little boy out there trying to protect his community” and “mitigate the chaos out there.” Conservative writer Rod Dreher maintains that “Rittenhouse did no wrong”—he was ridding Kenosha of “the enemy of civilization,” the people “vandalizing, burning, and looting.” Trump supporters have called him a “hero” and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to support his legal defense.

This applause for the killing of the right’s political nemeses is everywhere these days, popping up wherever the GOP can be found. It was there in one of Trump’s first tweets about the George Floyd protests: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.” It was at the Republican National Convention, which honored Mark and Patricia McCloskey, a random St. Louis couple who earned a moment of fame for threatening protesters with guns, as esteemed representatives of the party. It’s in ads for Republicans like Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler, whose recent TV spot suggests she’ll “eliminate the liberal scribes,” and QAnon supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene, who posted a photo of herself brandishing an assault rifle next to images of Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Rashida Tlaib. “Squad’s worst nightmare,” it read.

The rhetoric is repulsive. But the GOP’s kill-the-libs ethos is not limited to violent rhetoric. It’s becoming policy. And I don’t just mean DeSantis’ bill—indifference to American death, as long as the Americans dying are liberals, is one of the many horrors we’ve been forced to witness this year. From the very start of the COVID-19 pandemic, Trump has explicitly, shamelessly hastened the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans living in blue states, then smirked as they perished. Every step of the administration’s pandemic response has been undergirded by the assumption that it’s fine for the president’s putative opponents to die. In March, the federal government shorted several blue states on the protective equipment and ventilators they’d requested from the national stockpile (while furnishing GOP-led Florida, which carries the most electoral votes of any swing state, with far more supplies than it needed at the time). One public health expert involved in the White House’s coronavirus task force told Vanity Fair that “the political folks” on the team dismissed the idea of producing a national pandemic response plan once it appeared that the virus “was going to be relegated to Democratic states.” According to a “senior administration official” who spoke to the Washington Post, it took evidence that COVID-19 was killing “our people” in red states and would probably start killing more people in swing states to get Trump to care about stopping the spread of the virus. Trump has also publicly argued against coronavirus-related relief bills because he believesthey’d help blue states more than red states.

These have always been the stakes of politics: When lawmakers block Medicaid expansion, slash funding for affordable housing, bow to police unions, or redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top, they’re expressing their beliefs about who deserves to live and who deserves to die, whose lives matter and whose lives don’t. The pandemic and the national uprising for racial justice are slightly new terrains, but the stakes haven’t changed. The quiet part is just getting louder.

Earlier this month, the president encouraged his supporters to stop counting the people who’ve died in blue states as part of the official U.S. COVID-19 death toll. “If you take the blue states out … we’re really at a very low level,” he said. It was as if their deaths, which resulted from his politicized negligence, were no loss at all.
 
Except he didn't do a good job and made their future actually seem pretty rad. I haven't read the novel but I've heard that it was a much more serious political commentary than the film ended up being.

I can't find it now, but I remember hearing of a "law" that said something like "if you try to make a movie showing how awful war is, it will inevitably have the opposite effect and make war seem more exciting."

The novel was groundbreaking stuff if you were 14 and it was still 1959, but it's pretty forgettable apart from the power armor and the BIG REVEAL that Johnny Rico is a Flip :story:

Because Verhoeven is a Eurolib, he thinks everything pro-military is literal fascism (:smug:) and inadvertently gave us one of the most optimistic depictions of the future ever seen in a science fiction movie not starring William Shatner.

Plus, Dina Meyer's rocking tiddies.
 
He failed. The world depicted in Starship Troopers is too awesome not to love.

So instead of gay, pathetic 2020 where everybody's afraid of coof / riots / saying the wrong thing on social media and getting cancelled, ST depicts a based society where sexy twentysomethings travel through space to kill ugly alien bugs that thoroughly deserve it.

There's no poverty, racism, sexism, fat people or troons but there are co-ed showers and live executions of violent criminals.

Would you like to know more?

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It's a future where Dina Meyer is aggressively thirsty for the point of view character, I think they failed making the Federation look bad then and there.
 
The novel was groundbreaking stuff if you were 14 and it was still 1959, but it's pretty forgettable apart from the power armor and the BIG REVEAL that Johnny Rico is a Flip :story:

You're wrong there, buddy, its a great book still. It was the exposure to Heinlein in my childhood that prevented me from growing into a limp-wristed faggot. I'd advise you to present him to all your younger relatives, hell he even wrote a series of books for younger readers! It could be the one thing that keeps them from growing up with some kind of warped degeneracy fucking their brains and lives up permanently.
 
This hideous tactic of suppressing political dissent is spreading.

This tactic can 100% be countered by staying out of the roads. Like not even "Don't block the roads dummy", you can still do that if you really wanted. Just not with your body. Park cars or something. If you really fear for your life because you're in a mob blocking a road and you decide to still be in a mob blocking the road its your own fault.

Instead of taking action to quell this type of violence at protests,

Like...what? You think people who are willing to kill would think "But Trump said not to so I won't" when it came to pressing the gas peddle? Or do you want Trump to suppress the riots so people stop running them over?

George Floyd protests: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

And he was right?
 
This tactic can 100% be countered by staying out of the roads. Like not even "Don't block the roads dummy", you can still do that if you really wanted. Just not with your body. Park cars or something. If you really fear for your life because you're in a mob blocking a road and you decide to still be in a mob blocking the road its your own fault.
Unironically, blockading someone in their car is a probable threat to their life. Any cunt there could have a gun, or try and get in, or smash the windows. Anyone who gets mobbed like that should be free to slam the go pedal down.
 
Your side demonstrably has no problem with shooting people in the back (CHAZ murders/murder of Aaron Jay Danielson) and then trying to 'clean-up' the evidence.

Yes, after those two people presented themselves as threats to his life and/or safety.

Aren't BLM/Antifa the ones constantly screaming 'we don't FEEL safe, therefore destroy society'?
This article and thread is a specimen of everything that pushes me away from the Left: projection, lying by omission, defending the guilty, attacking the innocent, strawman arguments, repeating debunked narratives, and never even considering the possibility that the Right may have a valid concern.

Anyone who has a different opinion than them is just a racist sexist fascist poopyhead meanie who likes to oppress women and BIPOC for shits and giggles.
 
Unironically, blockading someone in their car is a probable threat to their life. Any cunt there could have a gun
and it's been demonstrated that there usually is at least one cunt there with a gun
or try and get in,
which has also demonstrably occurred
or smash the windows.
and this has occurred as well

Anyone who gets mobbed like that should be free to slam the go pedal down.
Even if they weren't free to, try explaining to someone in fear for their life how they're wrong for thinking being judged by 12 is better than being carried by 6

"That's illegal! You're a criminal now!"

Yeah, and you're dead. I don't think you thought too hard about this one, "peaceful protester".
 
Get back to me when there's almost 150 libs getting murdered by RWDS every week.

You know, the way nearly 150 blacks get murdered every week by other blacks. Blacks vote 90-95% for the liberal party. Soooo....
 
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Yeah, gradually, let's go with that.
 
Unironically, blockading someone in their car is a probable threat to their life. Any cunt there could have a gun, or try and get in, or smash the windows. Anyone who gets mobbed like that should be free to slam the go pedal down.

At most its a technique that relies entirely on the people you're blocking being unwilling to take your life for whatever reason. If you're facing people without that its just kinda suicide.
 
At most its a technique that relies entirely on the people you're blocking being unwilling to take your life for whatever reason. If you're facing people without that its just kinda suicide.
Running over a person or a larger animal can and usually does fuck regular cars up, so there's that as well.
So where are all those big trucks all Americans are supposed to have?
 
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At most its a technique that relies entirely on the people you're blocking being unwilling to take your life for whatever reason. If you're facing people without that its just kinda suicide.
The absolute fucking idiocy of labeling an entire demographic as bloodthirsty brownshirted fascists and then assuming that these would-be goosesteppers would think twice about turning you into a greasy spot on Main St. is breathtaking.

Talk about mixed fucking messaging.
 
The absolute fucking idiocy of labeling an entire demographic as bloodthirsty brownshirted fascists and then assuming that these would-be goosesteppers would think twice about turning you into a greasy spot on Main St. is breathtaking.

Talk about mixed fucking messaging.
People know for a fact that the 'huwhite power' is nothing of the fucking sort. Whites the world over have been accommodating to the extreme to literally everyone else to the point where we get sad when someone puts down even a single member of a mob of feral blacks howling for blood. It's insane.
 
See, if this isn't an indicator that most yanks just need a months intake of a benzo to chill out, I dinnae ken what is. The libs thinking every republican wants them dead is as daft as thinking every liberal wants to.. uh, what? Kill children.. let in all the immigrants.. take all the guns.. There's a bunch more there but jebus, I cannae be arsed listing it. Sooner folk just stop with the label smearing and see people for what they are, people, the sooner that powder keg moves away from the burning pile of shit that it's inching towards every sae often.
 
At most its a technique that relies entirely on the people you're blocking being unwilling to take your life for whatever reason. If you're facing people without that its just kinda suicide.
If you're going to try to block someone/something using your body, you have to be willing to take the hit when they try to get through you. It amazes me that these people haven't figured that out.

Plus there's the absurdity that these people are apparently unaware that cars are big and made of hard things and people are small and squishy. I guess growing up around heavy machinery taught me a healthy respect for big heavy things with moving parts, but I would absolutely never put myself in front of a car to try to stop it and until a few years ago I genuinely thought that was just generally understood by all. In collisions between cars and humans, cars win every time. Law of gross tonnage and all that. I guess these idiots missed school that day.
 
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