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What are your expectations for the EU5 release?

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Do you know what the paradox in Paradox Interactive is?

They get richer, but their games get poorer!
 
Blackstar said:
Here's a full campaign AAR as Byzantium
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I have watched a few Byzantium games for Eu5. It seems like we're going to be seeing alot of Byzantium because its a powerful state with not much to drag it into the abyss. I kinda dislike this because a defining point of the early modern era is its death.

The event that makes it Catholic is really silly. Apparently the "optimum play" is to convert to Catholic and then Protestantism for the most buffs possible.

 
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Slap47 said:
I have watched a few Byzantium games for Eu5. It seems like we're going to be seeing alot of Byzantium because its a powerful state with not much to drag it into the abyss. I kinda dislike this because a defining point of the early modern era is its death.

The event that makes it Catholic is really silly. Apparently the "optimum play" is to convert to Catholic and then Protestantism for the most buffs possible.

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Imagine converting to the heresy that is Cath-lick as a ERE player. Shame on them.

Real men stay defiantly Orthodox true and true.
 
Once I get to play EU5 (after someone cracks it), I'm going to try out how much harder it is to rapidly expand and build a vast land empire since they've added the control mechanic. I've already come up with a stupid idea for such a campaign—I'm going to build the Hungol Empire.

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Basically I will try my best to push Hungary's borders as much eastwards as possible and create a transcontinental land empire that doesn't collapse like how the Mongol Empire did in under a century. In EU4, this would be a trivial task, but with control being added to EU5, this sounds like a fun and autistic challenge.
 
The Wise Shaman said:
Once I get to play EU5 (after someone cracks it)
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Oy Vey are you suggesting you're not just blindly going to give the company with the dodgy track record your money? On the plus side it'll probably be pirated super quickly because Paradox doesn't really bother with DRM outside of Steam's native protection.
 
East_Clintwood said:
Oy Vey are you suggesting you're not just blindly going to give the company with the dodgy track record your money? On the plus side it'll probably be pirated super quickly because Paradox doesn't really bother with DRM outside of Steam's native protection.
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The game isn't even released, and they've already announced three DLCs. I would've considered paying for a Paradox game if they abandoned their horrendous DLC policy. I will not pay for the horse armor DLC, I will not pay for the wacky alternate history DLC, I will not pay for the useless gimmick they will never update DLC, and I will definitely not pay to have dozens of these types of DLCs for a single game. I will not pay for anything, and I will be happy. Let us not forget that Paradox had to add a subscription for their DLCs because they realized there was no way any new player would pay over hundreds of dollars for a huge catalog of DLCs to have the full game experience; this is how out of hand the situation got.

Other games have no problem being a one-time purchase and having all new content added to them for free—if the game is good, a constant stream of new players will keep it afloat. If Paradox bothered to do some quality control and not break their games every update, they would have had an excuse to justify having all of these overpriced DLCs. They also abandoned adding native Mac and Linux support for their newer games, a thing that has been a standard for years; this is how lazy they are. I do have Windows installed in cases when Proton or Wine isn't a solution, but I'm still upset about it.
 
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The Wise Shaman said:
I would've considered paying for a Paradox game if they abandoned their horrendous DLC policy.
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You have to remember that PDX is now the studio that is chasing the Youtuber/Reddit/gape mouth humor that started with HoI4 and was propelled to new heights with CK3

PDX is now a company where the amjority audience is online tweens, not people who remember the 90s/2000s days of expansion packs and free updates.
 
The Wise Shaman said:
The game isn't even released, and they've already announced three DLCs. I would've considered paying for a Paradox game if they abandoned their horrendous DLC policy. I will not pay for the horse armor DLC, I will not pay for the wacky alternate history DLC, I will not pay for the useless gimmick they will never update DLC, and I will definitely not pay to have dozens of these types of DLCs for a single game. I will not pay for anything, and I will be happy. Let us not forget that Paradox had to add a subscription for their DLCs because they realized there was no way any new player would pay over hundreds of dollars for a huge catalog of DLCs to have the full game experience; this is how out of hand the situation got.

Other games have no problem being a one-time purchase and having all new content added to them for free—if the game is good, a constant stream of new players will keep it afloat. If Paradox bothered to do some quality control and not break their games every update, they would have had an excuse to justify having all of these overpriced DLCs. They also abandoned adding native Mac and Linux support for their newer games, a thing that has been a standard for years; this is how lazy they are. I do have Windows installed in cases when Proton or Wine isn't a solution, but I'm still upset about it.
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The problem with their DLC policy is that they lock key mechanics behind DLC.

They only recently remedied this with Eu4 by making four of its DLC free with the base game. Even then I think they should have at least added Domination to that list.

I personally liked the way they handled CK2's DLC. Islamic world + India locked behind DLC. If you want to play them you pay, but you're not getting a gimped experience or losing out on key mechanics. You don't need to do any research on what mechanics are missing - just a section of the world blocked off until you get the DLC.
 
foreman 89 said:
For the Elder Kings mod there is some tension on the subreddit regarding the dev's decision to cut Akaviri expulsion - https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderKings/comments/1ngm66z/why_was_the_akaviri_expulsion_cut/
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The EK devs have always been unpleasant faggots. This is hardly surprising and is emblematic of the problem with the CK3 modding scene, being an extension of the HoI4 issues: too many politicized morons who take being able to do something as endorsement.
 
LovisXVI said:
The EK devs have always been unpleasant faggots. This is hardly surprising and is emblematic of the problem with the CK3 modding scene, being an extension of the HoI4 issues: too many politicized morons who take being able to do something as endorsement.
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I never really heard of any problems with them besides that controversy where they disabled the option to ban same sex marriage. It's a shame as elder scrolls really fits in a CK setting.
 
foreman 89 said:
I never really heard of any problems with them besides that controversy where they disabled the option to ban same sex marriage. It's a shame as elder scrolls really fits in a CK setting.
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They're a bunch of catty homos who are impossible to work with and obstinately refuse to share code or assets. It is because there is an iron wall of modders not criticizing other modders but I am both anonymous and not in the Crusader Kings modding community anymore so I am more than free to call them out.
 
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