Paramount and MGM continue the summer of blockbuster flops - $100 million budget Ben-Hur crawls past $10 million on opening weekend

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The fifth adaptation to the original book (yes, seriously) has been a clusterfuck at the box-office. Having your movie bring in less money per budget than a fucking Seth Rogan movie is not just embarassing, its depressing. Paramount have managed to set the bar lower than Sony by trying to dig up a classic film that has been enshrined by many as one of the classics. I doubt that the Christian epic will be saved from flop history, as it has been recieved by critics as more negativly than Independence Day: Resurgence. The only way this movie can break even, let alone profit is with a miracle.:coster: Update: As of August 28th, the movie hasn't even made half of it's budget back. :story:
 
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Quijibo69 said:
The lesson here is don't put garbage in the movie theater. Nobody will pay to see it.
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Ghostbusters and Suicide Squad.

The real moral is remake shitty movies, not great movies...and don't spend $100 million dollars on a movie that hasn't got the pull to get people in the theater. Fuck, 50 million might be enough to break even internationally.
 
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It's sad when the only film destined to make any money this summer is a Seth Rogan animated stoner comedy. And that's only due to its low budget.

Though considering how shit most of the films released this summer are (SS, Ghostbusters remake, this), I can't say I'm surprised.
 
I actually enjoyed ID4 2 as dumb fun. Its been a weird blockbuster summer though. I can't think what the one big movie was supposed to be. Trek was forgettable fun.
 
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I mean, most summer movie seasons are pretty bad. It started out okay with Civil War in the beginning and The Jungle Book making huge leaps and bounds, but then it dropped off a cliff.

The problem is that aside from a few movies, most just flat out suck this year. Some are steaming piles of shit like Suicide Squad. Then some really good movies, like The Nice Guys, failing to make bank which is a shame.

Next year looks about the same too, starting out strong with Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and then dropping off. At least a few movies look okay next year, key note is few because trailers are so misleading lately.
 
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Legatus Lanius said:
Ghostbusters and Suicide Squad.

The real moral is remake shitty movies, not great movies...and don't spend $100 million dollars on a movie that hasn't got the pull to get people in the theater. Fuck, 50 million might be enough to break even internationally.
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Suicide squad will more then make a profit and already has a sequel booked, just because you don't like a movie doesn't mean it's unsuccessful.
 
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Darndirty said:
Suicide squad will more then make a profit and already has a sequel booked, just because you don't like a movie doesn't mean it's unsuccessful.
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It needs at least $800-$900 million to break even from what I read, the 2nd week drop off was huge for a summer blockbuster. It was about the same as BvS's 2nd week drop off.

At most it will make $600 million I think, which should be a sign to WB to knock this shit off. It didn't show in China either, keep that in mind.

Remember, WB and everybody else expected BvS to break $1 billion but it got dethroned by Deadpool, Zootopia, and the Jungle Book which is really sad.
 
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Big_Boss said:
It needs at least $800-$900 million to break even from what I read, the 2nd week drop off was huge for a summer blockbuster. It was about the same as BvS's 2nd week drop off.

At most it will make $600 million I think, which should be a sign to WB to knock this shit off. It didn't show in China either, keep that in mind.

Remember, WB and everybody else expected BvS to break $1 billion but it got dethroned by Deadpool, Zootopia, and the Jungle Book which is really sad.
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I guess I just don't get the hate for the movie it got, it was light years better then BvS and the best thing DC has done in well..ever..guess I'm just partial cause I liked it.
 
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Big_Boss said:
It didn't show in China either, keep that in mind.
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Wow did these fuckheads miss the whole point or what.

I mean, I'm all for artistic vision and stuff but if you're crapping out a cape movie for some money you need the China market if you're going big budget.
 
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XYZpdq said:
Wow did these fuckheads miss the whole point or what.

I mean, I'm all for artistic vision and stuff but if you're crapping out a cape movie for some money you need the China market if you're going big budget.
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Fact is if you want to make a big budget movie then you should consider opening it in China as well. They're the entire reason why Transformers keeps getting sequel after sequel. Bay is a hack, but he realizes China is a important market if he wants to continue being paid. Warcraft didn't exactly bomb as hard as it could've thanks to China, and Pacific Rim is also getting a sequel thanks to China. It's a win/win kind of, if only China accepted raunchy R-rated comedies.

I doubt Ben Hur is getting a release in China, it still has a lot of religious themes in it. That doesn't go well with China's censors. Im going to guess movie studios will eventually wise up and release big budgeted movies only if they get a release in China.
 
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Big_Boss said:
Fact is if you want to make a big budget movie then you should consider opening it in China as well.
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Yeah. I've read some things about difficulty in actually _getting_ the China money after the fact since Hollywood Accounting has nothing against 3000 years of Chinese Accounting, but it seems their choice is go big and go China or don't go big at all. Not that there's anything wrong with not going big.
 
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Yeah. I've read some things about difficulty in actually _getting_ the China money after the fact since Hollywood Accounting has nothing against 3000 years of Chinese Accounting, but it seems their choice is go big and go China or don't go big at all. Not that there's anything wrong with not going big.
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In the past Hollywood really didn't care about China money, however after Avatar was a HUGE hit there they started taking them seriously. Especially after these big budget movies are more and more common.

However, not all big budget movies get released there. Ben Hur might not be because it still has religious ties, Suicide Squad wasn't because of spirits, and Ghostbusters wasn't released there for the same reason.

I'm not saying its a good thing, for all accounts China in general is a bad country and Hollywood over relys on them. Deadpool should set an example that movies can make bank without China as long as it's budget isn't bloated.

Corypheus said:
Why is that sad? All 3 of those were better movies. The first 2 in particular.
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I mean that it's pathetic that two of the most recognizable characters failed to make over one billion. It was dethroned by great and better movies yeah, but it's still really sad.
 
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