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I was hyped about cooking something with Elemental hit Monk (Invoker) with the various X% extra damage as Y element to combo with the triggers on ailment, but I since learned elemental conversion have had big changes on the scaling behind it from PoE 1.
PoE 1 enforces a one way road for damage type conversion: Physical -> Lightning -> Cold -> Fire (-> Chaos) and you can only move from left to right on that chart. There are 'exception' like converting everything directly into Chaos, but it moves to the right anyway.
It is somewhat limiting but allows for huge scaling if you do something like playing a physical brand that converts all its damage from phys to lightining to cold to half fire. Extra phys damage? Yoink. 30% more lightning damage from Wrath? In the bag. 30% more cold damage from Hatred? Add it on top (rip 3.25 nerf). etc.
That changes with PoE 2, now converted damage 'forgets' its origin. So if you have +30% cold damage, convert cold damage to fire and have +10% fire damage well you only get the 10% from fire damage. It's theorized to be the case for other things too, like increases to Energy Shield if you convert your ES to Mana, most likely won't apply.
It's probably not that huge of a downside as it allows them to do other cool stuff: You can now have something like X% of Fire damage as Extra Fire Damage (well it would be generic damage as extra fire, with the generic damage including your already fire dmg), I suppose the conversion order is not a thing anymore, and I bet they will come up with cool stuff without the harsh restriction from PoE 1 to prevent conversion broken scaling. But I'm a bit annoyed nonetheless.
Still going for Invoker as my first character, going to take my time and smell the roses. Also I'm a sucker I jumped on those Kiwis.
Basically if you play in Softcore Trade league (the most popular by far) the most effective use of your time is, often, to mindlessly grind whatever brings you the most currency per hour.
If you could one click buy whatever gear you had your eyes on, no question asked, the above statement would change from 'often' to 'always'. By adding friction to purchasing new gear (you have to find it, the seller has to be online and willing to sell) it makes it more valuable, both because you need to have the opportunity to buy the item, and the process to do so is more involved so the item feels more valuable in our mind. When most of the game revolves around farming and crafting gear that's important.
With the current manual process you're more likely to decide to craft some of the gear on your own. Which makes you sell the duds you roll that are not what you wanted but still valuable (more gear available in the economy), could make you decide to farm some of the crafting currency on your own (gratz you moved on from the mindless repeated grind to do something else!), or could make you notice market inefficiencies you can plug up and earn a benefit in doing so (same thing, you're doing something else for a while to earn currency, keeping the game more fresh, and your engagement high).
With Chris retiring The Vision™ started to weaken and we got Faustus earlier this year in PoE 1: in-game npc to instantly trade all the generic currency items. No more price-fixing (a sell offer is completed instantly as soon as there's a buyer), and you can even post buy offers! 100% F2P as well.
I mostly get what they're going for with The Vision™, and they're mostly right, but I think they've been way too strict on it.
We also got a nice amount of trading and inventory management QoL over the last couple years. One of the dev stated their objective with inventory management macros (stuff like auto-clickers to make all the clicking to transfer items more bearable) was to make the base game good enough so that no one would feel the need for macros anymore. Being able to Ctrl+Shift+Right Click to transfer all stacks of similar items in one click in both trade window and stash is a big one for that.
PoE 1 enforces a one way road for damage type conversion: Physical -> Lightning -> Cold -> Fire (-> Chaos) and you can only move from left to right on that chart. There are 'exception' like converting everything directly into Chaos, but it moves to the right anyway.
It is somewhat limiting but allows for huge scaling if you do something like playing a physical brand that converts all its damage from phys to lightining to cold to half fire. Extra phys damage? Yoink. 30% more lightning damage from Wrath? In the bag. 30% more cold damage from Hatred? Add it on top (rip 3.25 nerf). etc.
That changes with PoE 2, now converted damage 'forgets' its origin. So if you have +30% cold damage, convert cold damage to fire and have +10% fire damage well you only get the 10% from fire damage. It's theorized to be the case for other things too, like increases to Energy Shield if you convert your ES to Mana, most likely won't apply.
It's probably not that huge of a downside as it allows them to do other cool stuff: You can now have something like X% of Fire damage as Extra Fire Damage (well it would be generic damage as extra fire, with the generic damage including your already fire dmg), I suppose the conversion order is not a thing anymore, and I bet they will come up with cool stuff without the harsh restriction from PoE 1 to prevent conversion broken scaling. But I'm a bit annoyed nonetheless.
Still going for Invoker as my first character, going to take my time and smell the roses. Also I'm a sucker I jumped on those Kiwis.
You need Friction™ to keep the game engaging, according to The Vision™.
Basically if you play in Softcore Trade league (the most popular by far) the most effective use of your time is, often, to mindlessly grind whatever brings you the most currency per hour.
If you could one click buy whatever gear you had your eyes on, no question asked, the above statement would change from 'often' to 'always'. By adding friction to purchasing new gear (you have to find it, the seller has to be online and willing to sell) it makes it more valuable, both because you need to have the opportunity to buy the item, and the process to do so is more involved so the item feels more valuable in our mind. When most of the game revolves around farming and crafting gear that's important.
With the current manual process you're more likely to decide to craft some of the gear on your own. Which makes you sell the duds you roll that are not what you wanted but still valuable (more gear available in the economy), could make you decide to farm some of the crafting currency on your own (gratz you moved on from the mindless repeated grind to do something else!), or could make you notice market inefficiencies you can plug up and earn a benefit in doing so (same thing, you're doing something else for a while to earn currency, keeping the game more fresh, and your engagement high).
With Chris retiring The Vision™ started to weaken and we got Faustus earlier this year in PoE 1: in-game npc to instantly trade all the generic currency items. No more price-fixing (a sell offer is completed instantly as soon as there's a buyer), and you can even post buy offers! 100% F2P as well.
I mostly get what they're going for with The Vision™, and they're mostly right, but I think they've been way too strict on it.
We also got a nice amount of trading and inventory management QoL over the last couple years. One of the dev stated their objective with inventory management macros (stuff like auto-clickers to make all the clicking to transfer items more bearable) was to make the base game good enough so that no one would feel the need for macros anymore. Being able to Ctrl+Shift+Right Click to transfer all stacks of similar items in one click in both trade window and stash is a big one for that.
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Spirit of Fire
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Based China yet again bringing the goods. Thankyou Tencent and GGG!
I'm really gonna enjoy building a debuff spamming necromancer with the Witch.
Have you not seen the Mercenary class? He has a repeatable crossbow that has shotgun and sniper settings! The minmaxers are gonna love that class I'm calling it now.
I'm really gonna enjoy building a debuff spamming necromancer with the Witch.
Have you not seen the Mercenary class? He has a repeatable crossbow that has shotgun and sniper settings! The minmaxers are gonna love that class I'm calling it now.
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Endlosung
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Mercenary. Fucking love how he looks. I'm worried a bit about survivability, but I can always allocate a skillpoint to "Hard to Kill" (40% inc flask life recovery rate + regen 1.5% of life per sec) and should be good.
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I was stuck in meetings earlier today with nothing to do but think of build ideas, and I have come up with two autistic plans for chayulla monk:
Plan 1: Go Eldritch Battery + Mind Over Matter + Chaos Inoculation
(Convert energy shield to mana, take damage from mana before life and es, you are immune to chaos damage but your hp is 1)
Then grab nodes 1, 7, 8, 4
This focuses on keeping your shadow bar at full 100% of the time unless you are about to die. The new Mind Over Matter makes you take all damage from mana before HP and energy shield, and the new Eldritch Battery converts all of your energy shield to mana. This way your mana becomes your entire health bar and you never lose any shadow unless you are already basically dead at which point it acts like energy shield and you wait to recharge it (Or just die lol). You then grab the mana leech node which essentially allows you to insta leech life (mana) and the chaos damage node instead of chaos res as you are already chaos immune because of Chaos Inoculation. The main risk for this one is that Mind Over Matter halves your mana regen rate, but hopefully insta leech/mana/es nodes to get around that.
Plan 2:
Go MOM and Chaos Inoc and Ghost Reaver (hp leech instead applies to es)
Then grab nodes 1, 2, 5, 6
This one feels safer than the first in terms of working as you get 2 different health pools to work with, and 2/3 of the chayulla embers contribute to restoring your hp while scaling damage with the 3rd type of ember. This one feels a lot safer and practical (less gear dependent), and you still get the benefits of chaos inoc.
With either of these paths you can go pretty much any attack skill you want since everything is dealt as extra chaos damage, so anything should be able to deal solid damage.
Plan 1: Go Eldritch Battery + Mind Over Matter + Chaos Inoculation
(Convert energy shield to mana, take damage from mana before life and es, you are immune to chaos damage but your hp is 1)
Then grab nodes 1, 7, 8, 4
This focuses on keeping your shadow bar at full 100% of the time unless you are about to die. The new Mind Over Matter makes you take all damage from mana before HP and energy shield, and the new Eldritch Battery converts all of your energy shield to mana. This way your mana becomes your entire health bar and you never lose any shadow unless you are already basically dead at which point it acts like energy shield and you wait to recharge it (Or just die lol). You then grab the mana leech node which essentially allows you to insta leech life (mana) and the chaos damage node instead of chaos res as you are already chaos immune because of Chaos Inoculation. The main risk for this one is that Mind Over Matter halves your mana regen rate, but hopefully insta leech/mana/es nodes to get around that.
Plan 2:
Go MOM and Chaos Inoc and Ghost Reaver (hp leech instead applies to es)
Then grab nodes 1, 2, 5, 6
This one feels safer than the first in terms of working as you get 2 different health pools to work with, and 2/3 of the chayulla embers contribute to restoring your hp while scaling damage with the 3rd type of ember. This one feels a lot safer and practical (less gear dependent), and you still get the benefits of chaos inoc.
With either of these paths you can go pretty much any attack skill you want since everything is dealt as extra chaos damage, so anything should be able to deal solid damage.
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Pattern Juggler
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PoE 2 has hit 1 million Early Access key redemptions and is currently the best selling game globally on Steam.
This game is about to blow the fuck up and I'm ready for it.
This game is about to blow the fuck up and I'm ready for it.
Back me up!
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Pray for the Network crew cause they are not def not going home this weekend.
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I have zero knowledge of what comes in PoE2 and I'm hyped to discover it myself
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hawkisnight
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In about half an hour. I would suggest going to pathofexile.com for the countdown but their servers are already crashing.
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I looked through the Ascendancies, and nothing on my initial purview even comes close to the insane options that Witchhunter is carrying. Decimating strike on its own is hilarious, random 5-30% HP damage applied before the hit, and 20 "weapon skills" is so ambiguous that it could either be amazing or hot garbage. I've some thoughts about weapon swapping and build ideas.
Bonesjones
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They said they stress tested the servers and they'd go down at over 1.5m, so guess we are over that.
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Fucking hell. Take the worse case scenario and then double it. The extra money spent making sure you actually launch the game will be worth it.
Back me up!
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Lol, come on guys, after a online only game gets the number #1 spot on Steam Charts you have to know you ass is not logging on it until the next day.
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Haha I haven't done a league launch in like 5 years. I see things haven't changed.
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Yup, they’ve done it. I planned for PoE 2 for five months in advance. I worked OT and saved my PTO to use for poe 2. I told my wife , her boyfriend, and the kids that I can’t make it to the weekend because I would be on a very important business trip. I booked a nice hotel on the beach and brought my PC with me. Now I’m all set up and once again ggg has fucked me. What a waste of an entire day, an entire day of hard earned PTO wasted. Now I’m just sitting here in my room while the wife and kids are ringing my phone to say they miss me and wish I could be there tomorrow for the weekend. Through my frustrations, I yelled no and immediately regretted it. Thanks ggg for splitting this family apart and ruining my life.