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ICametoLurk said:
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RTs as a form of petition are dumb (unless you’re trying to get free tendies), but do you get the point of that tweet?
 
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Particle Bored said:
RTs as a form of petition are dumb (unless you’re trying to get free tendies), but do you get the point of that tweet?
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Getting lots of retweets might not help PJW affect any real change at the political level, but it certainly does aid his self-promotion, and I think it's fairly transparent with a lot of these talking heads online that they're generally more interested in promoting themselves than they are in promoting their ideas.
 
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ColtWalker1847 said:
ISIS is dead, Paul. We killed them. There is nothing left but some mopping up.

He really is a Putin cocksucker isn't he? "Any group that isn't Assad's is ISIS." STFU hack. The adults are talking.
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Most of the other rebel groups are offshoots of Al Qaida or other radical Islamists. One group is called the Army of Islam; it doesn't get much more obvious than that. The US withdrew support for them with good reason, and should never have given it in the first place.

As for the Syrian Democratic Forces, who are legitimately secular, they're in a conflict of interests with Turkey, and you know which ally the US is going to side with there.
 
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Pointless Pedant said:
Most of the other rebel groups are offshoots of Al Qaida or other radical Islamists. One group is called the Army of Islam; it doesn't get much more obvious than that. The US withdrew support for them with good reason, and should never have given it in the first place.

As for the Syrian Democratic Forces, they're in a conflict of interests with Turkey, and you know which ally the US is going to side with there.
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Except for the YPG/SDF that gets called "ISIS" constantly. Not to mention that anyone who picked up a dropped Iraqi gun got labelled as "supported by the US". Putin tooted that horn for quite a while.

Anyways, you are missing the point that none of these groups are actually ISIS. ISIS broke away from them. The radical groups weren't radical enough because they weren't on board with bringing about the apocalypse. That's what ISIS was. An expansionist death cult. The other groups, while I don't endorse them, just want an Islamic shithole to lord over. It is not the same thing.

All of this ignores that SA/Qatar/Turkey are the ones backing the rebels and pulling the strings. They have been from the start. Not the US. CJTF-OIR has a clear anti-ISIS mandate, not an anti-Assad mandate, and has acted as such.
 
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ColtWalker1847 said:
Except for the YPG/SDF that gets called "ISIS" constantly. Not to mention that anyone who picked up a dropped Iraqi gun got labelled as "supported by the US". Putin tooted that horn for quite a while.

Anyways, you are missing the point that none of these groups are actually ISIS. ISIS broke away from them. The radical groups weren't radical enough because they weren't on board with bringing about the apocalypse. That's what ISIS was. An expansionist death cult. The other groups, while I don't endorse them, just want an Islamic shithole to lord over. It is not the same thing.

All of this ignores that SA/Qatar/Turkey are the ones backing the rebels and pulling the strings. They have been from the start. Not the US. CJTF-OIR has a clear anti-ISIS mandate, not an anti-Assad mandate, and has acted as such.
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Al Nusra and its successors were literally rebranded al Qaida. They weren't allied with ISIS, but they still weren't a group I'd have wanted to see ruling Syria.

The US nowadays does focus on ISIS, but in the past they provided TOW missiles to rebel groups, some of which were Islamist. This stopped a while ago, but it was going for a time.

I said the SDF was secular, but they're more or less in a truce with the government most of the time. They're not rebels in the same way the Islamists are.

Obviously Assad isn't blameless either, he supported terrorism in Iraq during the US occupation to keep American forces busy. But the US did give some support to Islamists in the early years of the Syrian war, just not anymore.
 
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I'd rather not fight in Syria myself. The question is... does having PJW on my side help me or hurt me?
 
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he US nowadays does focus on ISIS, but in the past they provided TOW missiles to rebel groups, some of which were Islamist. This stopped a while ago, but it was going for a time.
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Turkey and Saudi Arabia use those same missiles. There is zero evidence they got those from the US. None.

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But the US did give some support to Islamists in the early years of the Syrian war, just not anymore.
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2011-2014 the US only provided humanitarian aid. It was only after ISIS showed up then they got involved with arming certain groups (mostly the Kurds). Arms passed to the YPG through Iraqi Kurdistan by the Peshmerga notwithstanding.

Anyways, the islamic rebels aren't ISIS. The US didn't create ISIS. The US didn't support ISIS. The US killed them. People who say stupid shit like "make America ISIS's Air Force" should be mocked. Not given a pass because actshually the rebels are blah blah blah.
 
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ColtWalker1847 said:
Turkey and Saudi Arabia use those same missiles. There is zero evidence they got those from the US. None.

2011-2014 the US only provided humanitarian aid. It was only after ISIS showed up then they got involved with arming certain groups (mostly the Kurds). Arms passed to the YPG through Iraqi Kurdistan by the Peshmerga notwithstanding.

Anyways, the islamic rebels aren't ISIS. The US didn't create ISIS. The US didn't support ISIS. The US killed them. People who say stupid shit like "make America ISIS's Air Force" should be mocked. Not given a pass because actshually the rebels are blah blah blah.
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Let's just agree that PJW is an exceptional individual and move on.
 
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If blowing up Syrian conscripts and Russian mercs makes him mad, that's even better.
 
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