Pedophiles of Sluthate AND Lookism (MRZ, Brian Peppers and many more!)

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This thread is boring, when are we going to do something funny?

There's been a trend lately away from humor and more towards treating love-shy/sluthate threads like Deep Thoughts section debate with the people at hand. It's not particularly fun.

Still, it's always nice to remind ourselves that this guy isn't even well-liked on his own site.
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Yes hebephilia (well, acting on it) is a crime in some countries. In other countries it is partially or completely legal to act on it though. These are not third world countries. Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Uruguay, etc all have partially legalized hebephilic sexual relationships. I don't see any problem with having a lower age of consent like these countries do. I'm seriously not proposing we legalize the exploitation of adolescents at all, I don't think we should. I just think that if some 21 year old takes home a 15 year old who snuck into a bar and they get busted having sex, that he shouldn't get in trouble. If some guy in his twenties meets some 14 year old at a festival or something and they agree to have sex, I don't think there is anything wrong with that. These scenarios don't lead to problems in countries like Germany so long as there is seriously no exploitation involved, it's completely legal without exploitation being involved. I don't see why I'm a sick deviant pedophile who should be locked up forever or executed simply because I think Germany has the right idea on this, and really the responses from many of you are nothing short of barbaric and primitive, especially since probabilistically a lot of you actually are attracted to adolescents, and it makes me truly fucking sick to my stomach that you feel such a strong need to deny it and make it seem like you want to kill everyone who is very likely exactly like you fucking are.

This is reaction formation, but you don't need to form a reaction, just use some fucking rationality and be open minded for a minute and think about it, is it seriously such a fucking big deal if someone has sex when they are a little under 18 or 16 years old? It's really not a big deal at all, and it doesn't make you immoral or a bad person for thinking this, it makes you a bad person for pretending that people who have attraction to people these ages are sick monsters worthy of being executed though, you guys in the anglosphere are allowing fucking horrific things to happen to people who don't deserve it at all, just because you are fucking scared and having a moral panic over NOTHING.
In regards to saying one should use rationality and be open minded, do you at least know why it can be a big deal outside of moral panic? A person beneath 18 or 16 can be manipulated by someone older than them and said manipulation doesn't have to involve blackmail if you think that can be countered by saying the manipulation was non-consenting. That is one thing that can happen.

I said I'm a non-exclusive hebephile, a true hebephile is exclusive or at least preferential. Sorry, I really don't expect you to know these highly technical terms, seeing as nobody would unless they actually studied this stuff, which nearly nobody actually has.
Non-exclusive or not, that can still put you in some sort of range in terms of being a hebephile.

There's been a trend lately away from humor and more towards treating love-shy/sluthate threads like Deep Thoughts section debate with the people at hand. It's not particularly fun.

Still, it's always nice to remind ourselves that this guy isn't even well-liked on his own site.

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He really is a divisive figure within the community, having a little over half the users who voted in wanting him to stay.
 
Yes hebephilia (well, acting on it) is a crime in some countries. In other countries it is partially or completely legal to act on it though. These are not third world countries. Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Uruguay, etc all have partially legalized hebephilic sexual relationships. I don't see any problem with having a lower age of consent like these countries do. I'm seriously not proposing we legalize the exploitation of adolescents at all, I don't think we should. I just think that if some 21 year old takes home a 15 year old who snuck into a bar and they get busted having sex, that he shouldn't get in trouble. If some guy in his twenties meets some 14 year old at a festival or something and they agree to have sex, I don't think there is anything wrong with that. These scenarios don't lead to problems in countries like Germany so long as there is seriously no exploitation involved, it's completely legal without exploitation being involved. I don't see why I'm a sick deviant pedophile who should be locked up forever or executed simply because I think Germany has the right idea on this, and really the responses from many of you are nothing short of barbaric and primitive, especially since probabilistically a lot of you actually are attracted to adolescents, and it makes me truly fucking sick to my stomach that you feel such a strong need to deny it and make it seem like you want to kill everyone who is very likely exactly like you fucking are.
God, are you fucking Eminem or something? Grow up dude. Men shouldn't want to fuck 14 year olds.
 
"People think pedophiles are bad so I'm gonna make up a new word so I'm not a pedophile." "People now think hebephiles are bad, so I'm gonna make up a new word so I'm not a hebephile."

There is a disconnect here, see, I'm using the words utilized by the academic scientists who actually study this stuff, and you are using the colloquialisms of uneducated commoners.

Non-exclusive or not, that can still put you in some sort of range in terms of being a hebephile.

Yes, as with the majority of males, my chronophilic attractions are not isolated from the hebephilic age range, though unlike a hebephile they are not exclusively isolated to the hebephilic age ranges. Preferential is harder for me to determine, like I really like 14 year olds and some researchers put 14 at hebephile whereas others put them at ephebophile. It's really hard for me to know the exact ages I'm attracted to and like how attracted I am to them, and it really varies a lot based on the individual as well. I honestly can't say the ages I prefer, I don't even really know myself. I know I prefer younger than 18 though, and don't prefer younger than 13.
 
Uhm, you don't respect the journal of criminal justice and behavior, or whichever journal professor Milton Diamond published the results of his research in?

See, no matter what I say and no matter what I give citations to, you will just try to find some excuse to say I'm a degenerate pedophile and should be beaten to a pulp and then executed blah blah blah. You seriously have absolutely zero interest in hearing anything that even slightly goes against your preconceived notions.

I can't stand people like you who have idiotic beliefs and will try to use academic sources to back up your stupidity. Apologize to Milton Diamond for projecting your own pedophilic desires into his academic career. As someone who actually has an academic background in Philosophy and Law, I have studied many different fields from societal law to ethics and have read hundreds of academic publications, studies and journals and quite frankly the fact that you will copy-paste one single source you look up on the internet that you can try to cookie-cut into your argument is insulting to anyone who has ever had to do scholarly research.

First off, if these studies you are quoting are based on people who were questioned and surveyed then you're an idiot if you think people won't be answering with a bias especially if they're being fucking asked questions about sexually abusing a child. That is exactly why you base a conclusion to an argument on multiple studies, not one or even twenty. In some cases you need hundreds or thousands of instances of academic research and study to be able to find consistencies and come up with a conclusion. While I'm sure you will cry "b-but kirby milton diamond is a reputable source," how many more sources exist that support your opinion that child porn is beneficial to society? Secondly, did you even once account any research at all to the opposing side of your argument, or are you just going to live inside your pathetic little bubble and defend your entire lifestyle based off of a few cherry-picked sources that fit your beliefs?

If you ever tried to prove a point in a professional setting with one source, you would be laughed at and ejaculated on; because for every argument you will try to defend, there will be an opposing side. Here's a New York Times Article that quotes multiple reputable academic sources that completely counter the notions that your one source made. See how easy it is?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/19/us/19sex.html?_r=0


Honestly, I don't want to be too harsh on you. You ended up the way you are right now because you had no friends in life and no support from your family. I can empathize with you in that regard, and I don't know if it was that you were shy or that you that didn't want friends, or the people around you that didn't want to be your friend, but I wish things turned out differently for you. You grew up without a real world connection to people and as a result, you were never reprimanded or judged for your naive opinions and as a result you developed to adulthood without any moral compass to guide you or keep you on the right path.

You see ZRM, the formative upbringing of a child is what can develop a potential mindset for a person such as yourself and is the key reason why people will do everything to nurture and protect a child's mind until they are ready and informed enough to make logical choices on their own and understand the consequences of their actions. (FYI: this is why we dont have sex with children) Because you never decided to build real-life connections with people and allowed your entire existence to exist within the internet, you yourself became the very example of what loving parents dedicate their parenthood to avoid.

I truly wish there was something I could do to help you get your life back on track, but I fear it is too late. The last marble has rolled away zrm. You have no more marbles left. All you can do at this point is try to reintegrate with society, make a friend and borrow one of their marbles. Good luck.

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There is a disconnect here, see, I'm using the words utilized by the academic scientists who actually study this stuff, and you are using the colloquialisms of uneducated commoners.

No, see, the disconnect is that you think the words you use are somehow elevating you above people who are into fucking children. You think that by painting your sick interests with a veneer of respectable science, that somehow removes the shit smell from someone who uses bullshit psuedoscience like phallometry and cherry picked quotations from ill-cited studies to justify wanting to fuck children and watch videos and pictures of children being fucked.
 
In regards to saying one should use rationality and be open minded, do you at least know why it can be a big deal outside of moral panic? A person beneath 18 or 16 can be manipulated by someone older than them and said manipulation doesn't have to involve blackmail if you think that can be countered by saying the manipulation was non-consenting. That is one thing that can happen.

Are you aware that some countries have their age of consent at 21? Do they have the moral high ground over you? They may say, well some 18-20 year olds can be manipulated, so since people under 21 can be manipulated we are morally superior to you by having age of consent at 21. It's really a lot like a religion. You just accept whatever your cultures age of consent is, and will religiously defend it. If you were born in a country with a lower age of consent, you would say your country is prudish to have such a high age of consent. If you were born in a country with a higher age of consent, you would say your country is deviant for allowing such a low age of consent. It's just blind religious faith, indeed it is a manifestation of the is-ought fallacy.
 
There is a disconnect here, see, I'm using the words utilized by the academic scientists who actually study this stuff, and you are using the colloquialisms of uneducated commoners.



Yes, as with the majority of males, my chronophilic attractions are not isolated from the hebephilic age range, though unlike a hebephile they are not exclusively isolated to the hebephilic age ranges. Preferential is harder for me to determine, like I really like 14 year olds and some researchers put 14 at hebephile whereas others put them at ephebophile. It's really hard for me to know the exact ages I'm attracted to and like how attracted I am to them, and it really varies a lot based on the individual as well. I honestly can't say the ages I prefer, I don't even really know myself. I know I prefer younger than 18 though, and don't prefer younger than 13.

You know what I'd prefer? I'd prefer if you removed your ability to reproduce and I'd prefer if you answered my original question posed to you that you continue to ignore.

And "uneducated commoners"? I dunno, man. I think that the only uneducated commoner here is the person attempting to rationalize his pedophile tendencies, despite the fact that it is a known fact that pedophilia is wrong.
 
No, see, the disconnect is that you think the words you use are somehow elevating you above people who are into fucking children. You think that by painting your sick interests with a veneer of respectable science, that somehow removes the shit smell from someone who uses bullshit psuedoscience like phallometry and cherry picked quotations from ill-cited studies to justify wanting to fuck children and watch videos and pictures of children being fucked.

So, do you like actually seriously believe that Germany has legalized the rape of children? Doesn't that seem kind of odd to you? Like, I know those guys are kind of fucked in the head over there in Germany, and I really wouldn't it put it by them given their history of exterminating the jews, but I'm just not really convinced they have legalized child rape.

Just go after 18 year olds dude, you'll still be a creepy weird loner but at least they're legal to lust after so you can wank without a guilty conscious.


I don't have a guilty conscience because I don't do anything wrong. I fapped to JB porn that would be illegal in the US, legally when I was outside of the US, seeing as US hasn't extrajurisdictional law covering viewing CP, and I've traveled to countries without laws against viewing CP. I plan to save up some money, renounce my current citizenship, establish citizenship in Uruguay, and proceed to legally fap to JB porn all day, plus legally use drugs all day, plus have the ability to fuck adolescents if they consent to me, and not care anymore about the sad Orwellian world that you live in.
 
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I just think that if some 21 year old takes home a 15 year old who snuck into a bar and they get busted having sex, that he shouldn't get in trouble. If some guy in his twenties meets some 14 year old at a festival or something and they agree to have sex, I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

Because the 14/15 year old is a still a child and they still behave as such. They are not adults.
 
Are you aware that some countries have their age of consent at 21? Do they have the moral high ground over you? They may say, well some 18-20 year olds can be manipulated, so since people under 21 can be manipulated we are morally superior to you by having age of consent at 21. It's really a lot like a religion. You just accept whatever your cultures age of consent is, and will religiously defend it. If you were born in a country with a lower age of consent, you would say your country is prudish to have such a high age of consent. If you were born in a country with a higher age of consent, you would say your country is deviant for allowing such a low age of consent. It's just blind religious faith, indeed it is a manifestation of the is-ought fallacy.
If you think some people accept the age of consent because of culture, that doesn't apply to everyone. An individual would keep the age of consent at a number such as 18 or 21 because of the body being developed enough to be that of an adult. To say it's because of the people being prudish would be rather generalizing the people. Another country having 21 being the age of consent doesn't mean it's because of a moral high ground.It can be more due to the fact that a 21 year old individual is more well developed than that of an 18 year old. Keep saying how it's just people being prudes but you are just trying to use a sort of bias to win an argument, one that tries to put the opposition in a negative light such as being prudes and religious nuts.
 
I don't have a guilty conscience because I don't do anything wrong. I fapped to JB porn that would be illegal in the US, legally when I was outside of the US, seeing as US hasn't extrajurisdictional law covering viewing CP, and I've traveled to countries without laws against viewing CP. I plan to save up some money, renounce my current citizenship, establish citizenship in Uruguay, and proceed to legally fap to JB porn all day, plus legally use drugs all day, plus have the ability to fuck adolescents if they consent to me, and not care anymore about the sad Orwellian world that you live in.

Wow, you're a pretty sad and pathetic individual. No adolescent would consent to you, you sick fuck, so I guess you're gonna be a permavirgin forever, fapping to children and doing drugs, because that is the life of a winner, amirite?
 
Because the 14/15 year old is a still a child and they still behave as such. They are not adults.

And in countries where the age of consent is 21 they say the same thing about the 18 year olds that are legal in your country.

Wow, you're a pretty sad and pathetic individual. No adolescent would consent to you, you sick fuck, so I guess you're gonna be a permavirgin forever, fapping to children and doing drugs, because that is the life of a winner, amirite?

Don't you see the dissonance in this post? You claim that no adolescent would consent to have sex with me, but you simultaneously claim that adolescents are incapable of sexual self determinism, and for this reason we require age of consent laws to protect them. This is a manifestation of cognitive dissonance, you simultaneously believe that adolescents have the ability to reject sexual intercourse with me, as well as that adolescents haven't the ability to reject sexual intercourse with me and therefore require laws to protect them.
 
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And in countries where the age of consent is 21 they say the same thing about the 18 year olds that are legal in your country.

Since I actually doubt the veracity of your claims that you have ever been out of the country, since you're a pathetic loser, there is no way for you to know that this is, in fact, true.

Don't you see the dissonance in this post? You claim that no adolescent would consent to have sex with me, but you simultaneously claim that adolescents are incapable of sexual self determinism, and for this reason we require age of consent laws to protect them. This is a manifestation of cognitive dissonance, you simultaneously believe that adolescents have the ability to reject sexual intercourse with me, as well as that adolescents haven't the ability to reject sexual intercourse with me and therefore require laws to protect them.

It's almost like adolescents wouldn't consent to having sex with you because they can't consent to having sex.

Nice try, though.
 
If you think some people accept the age of consent because of culture, that doesn't apply to everyone. An individual would keep the age of consent at a number such as 18 or 21 because of the body being developed enough to be that of an adult. To say it's because of the people being prudish would be rather generalizing the people. Another country having 21 being the age of consent doesn't mean it's because of a moral high ground.It can be more due to the fact that a 21 year old individual is more well developed than that of an 18 year old. Keep saying how it's just people being prudes but you are just trying to use a sort of bias to win an argument, one that tries to put the opposition in a negative light such as being prudes and religious nuts.

16 year old females have reached complete adult physical development, 14 year olds have reached virtually complete adult physical development and typically have reached complete adult development of secondary sex characteristics.
 
Don't you see the dissonance in this post? You claim that no adolescent would consent to have sex with me, but you simultaneously claim that adolescents are incapable of sexual self determinism, and for this reason we require age of consent laws to protect them. This is a manifestation of cognitive dissonance, you simultaneously believe that adolescents have the ability to reject sexual intercourse with me, as well as that adolescents haven't the ability to reject sexual intercourse with me and therefore require laws to protect them.
Teenagers are stupid and gross, especially preteens. They're basically children with tits. The only people who'd want to fuck that are emotionally under-developed man children. It's really easy to see why even SlutHate thinks you're hopeless.
 
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