Culture People intuitively associate religiosity with goodness and atheism with wrongdoing

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By Vladimir Hedrih
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Two experiments, one conducted in the United States and the other in New Zealand, found that people tend to have an intuitive moral bias linking religiosity with virtue and prosocial behavior. Similarly, they associated atheism with transgressive behavior. The research was published in Scientific Reports.

Moral bias refers to the tendency for moral values or judgments to influence reasoning, perception, or decision-making in a non-objective way.

It can cause people to evaluate information, actions, or individuals more favorably or unfavorably based on whether they align with their own moral beliefs. This bias often leads to the selective acceptance of evidence that supports one’s values while dismissing or distorting conflicting information.

Moral bias plays a role in political, religious, and ethical debates, where facts are interpreted through a moral lens. It can also affect scientific reasoning, legal judgments, and policy decisions.

For example, a person might reject valid research simply because its conclusions feel morally uncomfortable. Moral bias is often unconscious and can subtly shape how people frame problems or perceive fairness.

One frequently studied example of moral bias is the implicit belief that atheists are inherently immoral, while religious individuals are moral. A previous study found that moral bias against atheists is real and global in scope, but it remained unclear how personal religiosity influences the degree of this bias.

Study author Alex Dayer and his colleagues aimed to explore whether religious belief is intuitively linked with extreme prosociality. They also sought to replicate previous findings suggesting a connection between atheism and serious transgressive behavior.

Additionally, they investigated whether individual differences in belief in God influenced conjunction fallacy rates when participants evaluated situations involving helping behavior. A conjunction fallacy occurs when people mistakenly believe that the probability of two events occurring together is higher than the probability of one of the events alone.

The researchers conducted two studies.

In the first study, participants were 744 workers recruited from Amazon Mechanical Turk. Forty-four percent were female. Participants were paid $0.60 for their participation. They rated their belief in God and responded to two short vignettes.

One vignette described a person who was a serial murderer, while the other described a person who was a serial helper, offering food and clothes to the homeless.

For each vignette, participants indicated which of two statements they found more probable: either that the person was a teacher or that the person was a teacher who believes in God (or does not believe in God). Participants were randomly assigned to conditions where the second option specified either belief or disbelief in God.

Since teachers who do or do not believe in God are subsets of all teachers, the first option (“the individual is a teacher”) is always objectively more probable. This setup tested for the conjunction fallacy.

The second study used the same design but included 600 participants from New Zealand, recruited via Prolific. Fifty-two percent were female, and participants received $1 for their participation.

In the first study, results showed that when the serial helper was described as religious, 60% of participants selected that option. When the helper was described as an atheist, only 4% selected it. This suggests a strong moral bias linking religious people with prosocial behavior.

When the person in the vignette was a serial murderer, 64% of participants selected the conjunction option when it indicated he was an atheist, compared to only 18% when he was described as religious.

This finding supports the idea that participants held an implicit moral bias against atheists. Religious participants showed higher conjunction fallacy rates when the conjunction option identified the person as an atheist.

The second study in New Zealand replicated the main findings, although the differences were smaller. For the serial helper, 49% selected the religious conjunction option, compared to 5% who selected the atheist option. For the serial murderer vignette, 45% chose the atheist conjunction option, while 27% chose the religious conjunction option.

“We found evidence that religionists are conceptualized as morally good to a greater extent than are atheists conceptualized as morally bad, with comparable patterns observed in a predominantly religious society, the United States, and in a predominantly secular society, New Zealand."

"Notwithstanding the aforementioned moderation of these effects by individual differences in religiosity, even relatively nonreligious participants evidenced these biases in both societies, suggesting that the conceptual associations are pervasive,” the study authors concluded.

The study sheds light on the moral bias about religiosity. However, while the studies were conducted in two different countries, both the U.S. and New Zealand are English-speaking countries sharing similar cultures and cultural routes. Studies in other cultures might not yield identical results.

The paper, “Intuitive moral bias favors the religiously faithful,” was authored by Alex Dayer, Chanuwas Aswamenakul, Matthew A.Turner, Scott Nicolay, Emily Wang, Katherine Shurik, and Colin Holbrook.
 
Overly simplified. Who the hell would trust, say, a Muslim over an atheist.
I would. At least they believe in something. Why would I trust an atheist to keep their word? What can they swear on that holds weight? Nothing. Meanwhile I can get a Muslim to swear to Allah that he's telling the truth.
 
I would. At least they believe in something. Why would I trust an atheist to keep their word? What can they swear on that holds weight? Nothing. Meanwhile I can get a Muslim to swear to Allah that he's telling the truth.
Like that's meaningful coming from a religion actively practicing taqiya lmfao
You haven't lived around them, have you?
 
I would. At least they believe in something. Why would I trust an atheist to keep their word? What can they swear on that holds weight? Nothing. Meanwhile I can get a Muslim to swear to Allah that he's telling the truth.
I encourage you to square your worldview with the concept of taqiyya.

And to the article, it only applies to Christianity but good luck getting them to admit that.
 
Overly simplified. Who the hell would trust, say, a Muslim over an atheist.
True, but also, a lot of people know jack shit about Islam. Like, there are still people in this day and age who think saying that Muhammad was a warlord that fucked a 9 year old isn't a statement of fact, but of legitimate hate speech.
I would. At least they believe in something. Why would I trust an atheist to keep their word? What can they swear on that holds weight? Nothing. Meanwhile I can get a Muslim to swear to Allah that he's telling the truth.
You actually cannot. Muslims are allowed to lie and to fake apostatize. When the Sikh were fighting the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb, their Guru Gobind Singh wrote a whole poem/letter (Zafarnamah) that was a screed against him, because of his multiple betrayals and deceptions. here's the quote I found emblematic, "Now if you swear a hundred times on Koran, I will not trust you for a moment even equivalent to a single speck".

The Quran explicitly allows you to lie to please your wife, to lie during war, and to lie to bring peace to people. And you have to remember, war doesn't necessarily need to be literal. There have been Muslim scholars who stretch it to crazy extremes like, for example, all American citizens who pay taxes, because our money funds the US' military action in the Middle East.

Obviously not all Muslims are like this, but to pretend there's an Islamic reason for them to be trustworthy outside of their own moral character, isn't a guarantee.
 
Like that's meaningful coming from a religion actively practicing taqiya lmfao
What's that?
You haven't lived around them, have you?
No, not really. But I've lived around atheists and I know I can't trust them.
You actually cannot. Muslims are allowed to lie and to fake apostatize. When the Sikh were fighting the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb, their Guru Gobind Singh wrote a whole poem/letter (Zafarnamah) that was a screed against him, because of his multiple betrayals and deceptions. here's the quote I found emblematic, "Now if you swear a hundred times on Koran, I will not trust you for a moment even equivalent to a single speck".

The Quran explicitly allows you to lie to please your wife, to lie during war, and to lie to bring peace to people. And you have to remember, war doesn't necessarily need to be literal. There have been Muslim scholars who stretch it to crazy extremes like, for example, all American citizens who pay taxes, because our money funds the US' military action in the Middle East.

Obviously not all Muslims are like this, but to pretend there's an Islamic reason for them to be trustworthy outside of their own moral character, isn't a guarantee.
If that's Taqiya then yeah I see why they're as bad as atheists.
 
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“We found evidence that religionists are conceptualized as morally good to a greater extent than are atheists conceptualized as morally bad, with comparable patterns observed in a predominantly religious society, the United States, and in a predominantly secular society, New Zealand."
Perhaps religion is hard-wired into humanity, and attempts to remove the one that was so core to so much of its development (Christianity) have only resulted in replacing it with another ("woke" progressivism) that makes it impossible to create or even maintain the level of civilization attained under the former.

For anyone who went down the rabbit hole of reddit fedora gaytheism (it's ok, I was once an enlightened Lolbertarian), who now sees the horrific results of removing Christianity from society but doesn't see a path back to faith, try acting it out.

You can read the Bible, attend Church, watch services or learn about it on youtube, even pray, and nobody's going to kick you out for not being devout. But act it out long enough and the faith might come back.
 
I don't know why you guys are sperging about how inherently dishonest Muslims are when there are many accounts in history of the exact opposite from orientalist scholars. Here's an excerpt from Thomas Arnold on how Christians viewed the Turks despite their hatred of them

While there was so much in the Christian society of the time to repel, there was much in the character and life of the [Muslim] Turks to attract, and the superiority of the early Ottomans as compared with the degradation of the guides and teachers of the Christian Church would naturally impress devout minds that revolted from the selfish ambition, simony and corruption of the Greek ecclesiastics.

Christian writers constantly praise these [Muslim] Turks for the earnestness and intensity of their religious life; their zeal in the performance of the observances prescribed by their faith; the outward decency and modesty displayed in their apparel and mode of living; the absence of ostentatious display and the simplicity of life observable even in the great and powerful.[2]

The annalist of the embassy from the Emperor Leopold I to the Ottoman Porte in 1665-1666, especially eulogises the devoutness and regularity of the Turks in prayer...

Many a tribute of praise is given to the virtues of the Turks even by Christian writers who bore them no love ; one such [Alexander Ross] who had a very poor opinion of their religion, speaks of them as follows :

‘Even in ... Alcoran you shall find some jewels of Christian Virtues; and indeed if Christians will but diligently read and observe the Laws and Histories of the Mahometans, they may blush to see how zealous they are in the works of devotion, piety, and charity, how devout, cleanly, and reverend in their Mosques, how obedient to their Priest, that even the great Turk himself will attempt nothing without consulting his Mufti; how careful are they to observe their hours of prayer five times a day wherever they are, or however employed. How constantly do they observe their Fasts from morning till night a whole month together; how loving and charitable the Muslemans are to each other, and how careful of strangers may be seen by their Hospitals, both for the Poor and for Travellers; if we observe their Justice, Temperance, and other moral Vertues, we may truly blush at our own coldness, both in devotion and charity, at our injustice, intemperance, and oppression; doubtless these Men will rise up in judgment against us; and surely their devotion, piety and works of mercy are main causes of the growth of Mahometism.’[3]

The same conclusion is drawn by a modern historian , who writes:

‘We find that many Greeks of high talent and moral character were so sensible of the superiority of the Mohammedans, that even when they escaped being drafted into the Sultan's household as tribute-children, they voluntarily embraced the faith of Mahomet. The moral superiority of Othoman society must be allowed to have had as much weight in causing these conversions, which were numerous in the fifteenth century, as the personal ambition of individuals.’

1. The Preaching of Islam (1913), p.74-75.
 
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You don't fucking say

It is interesting that of the Abrahamic faiths both Islam and Judaism have loopholes that allow their believers to go against their beliefs and commit acts they consider a sin. I don't recall ever being told that when I was growing up as a Catholic.
There's no such thing as an abrahamic faith. It's a term made up by ✡️ to demonize Christians
 
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I don't know why you guys are sperging about how inherently dishonest Muslims are when there are many accounts in history of the exact opposite from orientalist scholars. Here's an excerpt from Thomas Arnold on how Christians viewed the Turks despite their hatred of them
Looking at your quote he praises their focused worship, that they dress modestly, and did a lot of charitable works.

Nothing about trustworthiness, or how well they will keep to agreements.
 
Wild we see people with a moral compass better than those without.
 
>people have a bias for cooperative behavior over defection behavior
So weird and funny!

yeah being cooperative is better for society, but if you are posting here you are not exactly a "status quo" kind of person so not sure why people here are acting like this is a based take or anything
 
>people have a bias for cooperative behavior over defection behavior
So weird and funny!

yeah being cooperative is better for society, but if you are posting here you are not exactly a "status quo" kind of person so not sure why people here are acting like this is a based take or anything
Christ is King, suffah atheists.
 
I'm not exactly religious in a way that would satisfy the Christian types on this forum but I can see how humans might instinctively dislike or distrust atheists. Humans as far as we know have always had some kind of religious beliefs even if it's just shamanic or belief in spirits and it's a thing that helps us form social cohesion. A person who rejects that rejects social norms so is therefore less trustworthy to normies.

I'd be interested to see this experiment repeated in cultures like Japan or Thailand which are Buddhists and may not have the same definition of religion that the US or New Zealand do.
 
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