Culture People intuitively associate religiosity with goodness and atheism with wrongdoing

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By Vladimir Hedrih
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Two experiments, one conducted in the United States and the other in New Zealand, found that people tend to have an intuitive moral bias linking religiosity with virtue and prosocial behavior. Similarly, they associated atheism with transgressive behavior. The research was published in Scientific Reports.

Moral bias refers to the tendency for moral values or judgments to influence reasoning, perception, or decision-making in a non-objective way.

It can cause people to evaluate information, actions, or individuals more favorably or unfavorably based on whether they align with their own moral beliefs. This bias often leads to the selective acceptance of evidence that supports one’s values while dismissing or distorting conflicting information.

Moral bias plays a role in political, religious, and ethical debates, where facts are interpreted through a moral lens. It can also affect scientific reasoning, legal judgments, and policy decisions.

For example, a person might reject valid research simply because its conclusions feel morally uncomfortable. Moral bias is often unconscious and can subtly shape how people frame problems or perceive fairness.

One frequently studied example of moral bias is the implicit belief that atheists are inherently immoral, while religious individuals are moral. A previous study found that moral bias against atheists is real and global in scope, but it remained unclear how personal religiosity influences the degree of this bias.

Study author Alex Dayer and his colleagues aimed to explore whether religious belief is intuitively linked with extreme prosociality. They also sought to replicate previous findings suggesting a connection between atheism and serious transgressive behavior.

Additionally, they investigated whether individual differences in belief in God influenced conjunction fallacy rates when participants evaluated situations involving helping behavior. A conjunction fallacy occurs when people mistakenly believe that the probability of two events occurring together is higher than the probability of one of the events alone.

The researchers conducted two studies.

In the first study, participants were 744 workers recruited from Amazon Mechanical Turk. Forty-four percent were female. Participants were paid $0.60 for their participation. They rated their belief in God and responded to two short vignettes.

One vignette described a person who was a serial murderer, while the other described a person who was a serial helper, offering food and clothes to the homeless.

For each vignette, participants indicated which of two statements they found more probable: either that the person was a teacher or that the person was a teacher who believes in God (or does not believe in God). Participants were randomly assigned to conditions where the second option specified either belief or disbelief in God.

Since teachers who do or do not believe in God are subsets of all teachers, the first option (“the individual is a teacher”) is always objectively more probable. This setup tested for the conjunction fallacy.

The second study used the same design but included 600 participants from New Zealand, recruited via Prolific. Fifty-two percent were female, and participants received $1 for their participation.

In the first study, results showed that when the serial helper was described as religious, 60% of participants selected that option. When the helper was described as an atheist, only 4% selected it. This suggests a strong moral bias linking religious people with prosocial behavior.

When the person in the vignette was a serial murderer, 64% of participants selected the conjunction option when it indicated he was an atheist, compared to only 18% when he was described as religious.

This finding supports the idea that participants held an implicit moral bias against atheists. Religious participants showed higher conjunction fallacy rates when the conjunction option identified the person as an atheist.

The second study in New Zealand replicated the main findings, although the differences were smaller. For the serial helper, 49% selected the religious conjunction option, compared to 5% who selected the atheist option. For the serial murderer vignette, 45% chose the atheist conjunction option, while 27% chose the religious conjunction option.

“We found evidence that religionists are conceptualized as morally good to a greater extent than are atheists conceptualized as morally bad, with comparable patterns observed in a predominantly religious society, the United States, and in a predominantly secular society, New Zealand."

"Notwithstanding the aforementioned moderation of these effects by individual differences in religiosity, even relatively nonreligious participants evidenced these biases in both societies, suggesting that the conceptual associations are pervasive,” the study authors concluded.

The study sheds light on the moral bias about religiosity. However, while the studies were conducted in two different countries, both the U.S. and New Zealand are English-speaking countries sharing similar cultures and cultural routes. Studies in other cultures might not yield identical results.

The paper, “Intuitive moral bias favors the religiously faithful,” was authored by Alex Dayer, Chanuwas Aswamenakul, Matthew A.Turner, Scott Nicolay, Emily Wang, Katherine Shurik, and Colin Holbrook.
 
im not even religious, but no shit, Atheists haven't exactly been ingraining themselves in a positive light to the general population of western nations, the Protestant Reformation has grown several ideological branches that are just pure cancer, like Wokeness for example, first you don't need to be a Catholic, then you don't need to be a Christian, then you don't need be religious, then you don't need any good values, when you value nothing you tend to pick-up bullshit such as Wokeness to peddle
You actually cannot. Muslims are allowed to lie and to fake apostatize. When the Sikh were fighting the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb, their Guru Gobind Singh wrote a whole poem/letter (Zafarnamah) that was a screed against him, because of his multiple betrayals and deceptions. here's the quote I found emblematic, "Now if you swear a hundred times on Koran, I will not trust you for a moment even equivalent to a single speck".

The Quran explicitly allows you to lie to please your wife, to lie during war, and to lie to bring peace to people. And you have to remember, war doesn't necessarily need to be literal. There have been Muslim scholars who stretch it to crazy extremes like, for example, all American citizens who pay taxes, because our money funds the US' military action in the Middle East.

Obviously not all Muslims are like this, but to pretend there's an Islamic reason for them to be trustworthy outside of their own moral character, isn't a guarantee.
if they stayed the fuck in the Middle East then there would be no real problems, but they've basically adopted Jew tactics with an occasional outburst of violence in order to get what they want, especially in Europe
 
It is interesting that of the Abrahamic faiths both Islam and Judaism have loopholes that allow their believers to go against their beliefs and commit acts they consider a sin. I don't recall ever being told that when I was growing up as a Catholic.
Didn't the catholic church sell "Get out of Hell" cards that sparked a massive civil war?

Every faith will find a way to justify sin for practical reasons.
 
many accounts in history of the exact opposite from orientalist scholars
I think the better takeaway would be that Orientalists were the Weebs of their day, and too enamored with the Orient to really get a full picture of it. Quite possibly they were taken in by the Taqiyya themselves.

Take this passage:
‘We find that many Greeks of high talent and moral character were so sensible of the superiority of the Mohammedans, that even when they escaped being drafted into the Sultan's household as tribute-children, they voluntarily embraced the faith of Mahomet. The moral superiority of Othoman society must be allowed to have had as much weight in causing these conversions, which were numerous in the fifteenth century, as the personal ambition of individuals.’
It ascribes conversion to Islam as being born from the Greeks viewing Islam as a moral thing. This is almost certainly untrue. Conversion to Islam was almost universally driven by violent intimidation on one hand and economic persuasion on the other.

Christian Greeks could not defend themselves in the Islamic courts of the Ottoman Empire. In some eras, Christian Greeks were forced into slavery with the only way out being to convert. The Turks forced Christians to "pay" the Blood Tax, which meant to surrender their children to the State, who would then convert them and use them as soldiers.

The famous Jizya was not the only tax either levied against non-Muslims either. There was the Ispendje and the Daftar, and other special temporary taxes designed to coerce conversion. Or worse, there was the Hirak, which was levied on non-Muslims and those who did not, or could not pay, were beheaded.
 
Didn't the catholic church sell "Get out of Hell" cards that sparked a massive civil war?

Every faith will find a way to justify sin for practical reasons.
The Catholic Church and Christianity in general has done a lot of horrible acts throughout its history (selling indulgences, the Spanish Inquisition, the Albigensian Crusade, Cromwell and the Puritan movement, etc.) but I don't really recall loopholes for committing sins against God like Taqiya in Islam or that weird rules lawyer crap like tying strings around a neighborhood so God can't see you that the Jews do. With the Christian Faith it's always if you commit a sin seek forgiveness or you are going to hell regardless of the sect or variation.
 
The Catholic Church and Christianity in general has done a lot of horrible acts throughout its history (selling indulgences, the Spanish Inquisition, the Albigensian Crusade, Cromwell and the Puritan movement, etc.) but I don't really recall loopholes for committing sins against God like Taqiya in Islam or that weird rules lawyer crap like tying strings around a neighborhood so God can't see you that the Jews do. With the Christian Faith it's always if you commit a sin seek forgiveness or you are going to hell regardless of the sect or variation.
Taqiya is the one that people like to quote, and it's entire purpose is preventing people from taking their stuff outside their farmstead to sell on a Saturday. Which might have went well 2000 years ago, but nowadays you want mothers to be able to walk outside with baby strollers, especially as the average person no longer has a house with a well defined boundaries. Rabbis should just have said it doesn't apply anymore and be done with it, anyways it's a really poor example of "loopholes" when the result of it is as benign as you can get.
 
I was a former atheist. Been through the transition of when the SJWs took it over. Made me believe in a literal devil for all the shit that transgressed.

Many an atheist says there is no God for all the evil in this world. Is it crazy to believe that only devils exist, but not angels? Too many atheists believe an absolute evil certainly exists, but not in an absolute good. To believe a unipolar evil exists and is common, but a unipolar good is complete fantasy isn't logical. Surely one cannot exist without the other. Despite my avatar on this forum as chronic pessimist, I can never consider myself enough of a cynical nihilist stay an atheist.

The problem of evil ironically brought be back to God instead of away. Only one religion believes in the one perfect benevolent being who walked on this earth who existed as the standard bearer for how every human should exist. Yet atheists point to this standard and how it is unattainable and use this as proof as God cannot exist, but will use the force of the state to force a utopia that apes the highest principles of this deity they don't believe in.
 
Some of the biggest assholes I have ever seen were regular church-goers. Hypocrites. Don't know any real atheists, but know agnostics like myself. Look at the behavior, don't look at the beliefs, and there you will find the answer.
Prisons are full of people who "found Jesus" at their trials....... honest!
 
I'm pretty sure this is the entire reason "Neo-Paganism" exists. Atheism has never been cool, but atheism with extra steps, like pretending to worship a fat, abusive drunk losers and he's one-eyed father who sucks the cocks of dead men for their semen, is totally cooler. Even if you are worshipping the loser gods of snownigger sea and coastal pirates. Lets you have all the Fuck You Dad cred of atheism, but without being associated with autistic assholes.

The guy who came up with Wicca did it to talk chicks out of their clothes and I can at least respect that.
 
Well, yeah. Progressive woke-ism was birthed from the fedora tipping "I heccin luv science" crowd.
It's all about pleasing the self and only the self and making yourself look good. Hence why so many progressives are quick to go with the current thing. They don't have any morals or core beliefs that don't follow the tribe and are ever changing. We all saw how quickly the "anti-racists" changed the tune and became the very monster the claim to fight when Trump won 2024.

A lot of people are ignorant to how evil Islam is and if they knew and didn't try to overwrite the truth with woke-ism and media lies, then they'd be horrified and fearful.
The initial reaction to Islam when 9/11 happened was the correct reaction and the media was all too happy to defend the diet Muslims, that I can't help but feel like that was the catalyst (combined with the Internet) that pushed woke-ism into overdrive.

If you're confused by what I mean by 'diet Muslims', it's the ones a who claim to be peaceful and against violence. They're ignoring the core of their religion and appear to be cherry picking their own religion.

Kind of like how there is "woke Christianity" and "Christian witches" and other nonsense like that. They're ignoring all the parts of the Bible that are inconvenient for their lifestyle and/or beliefs.
 
It could be because the most prominent atheists of the 20th century were dictators who killed millions. They stunk up the name of atheism so much that politicians in the US actually had to fake being believers and going to a church in order to get people to vote for them. The Moral Majority was at one time a strong political force that needed to be appeased and, if they hadn't gotten too greedy and self-destructive, they'd probably still have some influence in national politics .

It doesn't help that Western nations that abandon Christian principles and embrace degeneracy either turn into a nice, polite version of Nazis (Canada), or are overrun with swarthy foreigners.
 
This concept of Taqiyya is specifically the trait of the Shias who have the greatest resemblance to the Jews.

Here's one of the most famous narrations on lying:

حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا جَرِيرٌ، عَنْ مَنْصُورٍ، عَنْ أَبِي وَائِلٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ الصِّدْقَ يَهْدِي إِلَى الْبِرِّ، وَإِنَّ الْبِرَّ يَهْدِي إِلَى الْجَنَّةِ، وَإِنَّ الرَّجُلَ لَيَصْدُقُ حَتَّى يَكُونَ صِدِّيقًا، وَإِنَّ الْكَذِبَ يَهْدِي إِلَى الْفُجُورِ، وَإِنَّ الْفُجُورَ يَهْدِي إِلَى النَّارِ، وَإِنَّ الرَّجُلَ لَيَكْذِبُ، حَتَّى يُكْتَبَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ كَذَّابًا ‏"‏‏.‏

Narrated `Abdullah: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Truthfulness leads to righteousness, and righteousness leads to Paradise. And a man keeps on telling the truth until he becomes a truthful person. Falsehood leads to Al-Fajur (i.e. wickedness, evil-doing), and Al-Fajur (wickedness) leads to the (Hell) Fire, and a man may keep on telling lies till he is written before Allah, a liar."

Sahih al-Bukhari 6094

And lets look at the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ himself? Did he ever betray any of his agreements or act treacherously? The Qur'an says the exact opposite.

The Spoils of War (8:27)

يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ لَا تَخُونُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلرَّسُولَ وَتَخُونُوٓا۟ أَمَـٰنَـٰتِكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ ٢٧

O believers! Do not betray Allah and the Messenger, nor betray your trusts knowingly.
— The Clear Quran

If the religion commands for honestly and righteousness and some portion of them don't follow that do we write off the whole of them as wicked? If I judge all Christians as evil killers because of what happened in Iraq would anyone accept that?


It isn't 11th century Europe anymore, all of you have access to accurate and reliable information about Islam if you actually cared to. At least the crusaders had the excuse of utter ignorance about what Islam even was.
 
This concept of Taqiyya is specifically the trait of the Shias who have the greatest resemblance to the Jews.
Oh Christ, more of these deflection games. Those fundamentally dishonest tactics too are in the domain of the yid, obviously. Nobody but you and yours cares about what the Grand PBUH said or did in Meccan sutra #1,XYZ (the ones that aren't ululuating for war) or whatever. If you were sincerely opposed to taqiyya, you'd be busy lynching those who promote it as the worst actors imaginable who constantly discredit you to the world.
You're all the same in reality and if you're also stealing oxygen from the west, then you need to leave. Relegate yourself to your corrupt homeland with your fellow corrupt souls. If miracles occur and Islam can find its way to extensive reform (extremely unlikely), maybe you'll find your way back to the rest of humanity.
 
True, but also, a lot of people know jack shit about Islam. Like, there are still people in this day and age who think saying that Muhammad was a warlord that fucked a 9 year old isn't a statement of fact, but of legitimate hate speech.

You actually cannot. Muslims are allowed to lie and to fake apostatize. When the Sikh were fighting the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb, their Guru Gobind Singh wrote a whole poem/letter (Zafarnamah) that was a screed against him, because of his multiple betrayals and deceptions. here's the quote I found emblematic, "Now if you swear a hundred times on Koran, I will not trust you for a moment even equivalent to a single speck".

The Quran explicitly allows you to lie to please your wife, to lie during war, and to lie to bring peace to people. And you have to remember, war doesn't necessarily need to be literal. There have been Muslim scholars who stretch it to crazy extremes like, for example, all American citizens who pay taxes, because our money funds the US' military action in the Middle East.

Obviously not all Muslims are like this, but to pretend there's an Islamic reason for them to be trustworthy outside of their own moral character, isn't a guarantee.
I swear the whole "i swear on the quran" being used to lie should be common knowledge.

Swearing on the book that lets you lie is hilarious.
 
I'm not exactly religious in a way that would satisfy the Christian types on this forum
Me either, but keep practicing. I think "faking it til you make it" is probably a more effective way of both growing faith (and instilling society-improving behaviours in the meantime) than waiting for spontaneous belief to appear overnight.

weird rules lawyer crap like tying strings around a neighborhood so God can't see you that the Jews do
Point of order, they're not hiding from God, they're beating him in court on technicalities. The rule is not to carry things outside on Sabbath, so stringing a wire around the entirety of Manhattan givcs you a 20 square mile "house" to do whatever you want in.

Likewise, the kosher appliances and light switches employ clever tricks like running the oven all day (so you aren't technically using power, you just happened to store some food in the thing you turned on yesterday and oops it cooked itself!) or having a button that randomly decides whether to work or not (so you just pressed something inert until a light happened to come on).

Checkmate, God. District Judge Progboyg ruled in my favour so you can't punish me.
 
You can tell the atheists that did this study find it immensely frustrating. Even non religious people intuitively associate religiosity with morality. It’s generally assumed that atheism means being immoral-even atheists at some level intuitively understand this, which is why they have to desperately find some other basis to justify their moral bonafides.

What I find interesting is secularization doesn’t destroy this instinct-people either desperately search for a replacement or they have to tacitly concede society is becoming more immoral, even if they don’t believe.

Also…why is nobody in this thread actually responding to the OP’s post and instead sperging about Islam?
 
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I was a former atheist. Been through the transition of when the SJWs took it over. Made me believe in a literal devil for all the shit that transgressed.

Many an atheist says there is no God for all the evil in this world. Is it crazy to believe that only devils exist, but not angels? Too many atheists believe an absolute evil certainly exists, but not in an absolute good. To believe a unipolar evil exists and is common, but a unipolar good is complete fantasy isn't logical. Surely one cannot exist without the other. Despite my avatar on this forum as chronic pessimist, I can never consider myself enough of a cynical nihilist stay an atheist.

The problem of evil ironically brought be back to God instead of away. Only one religion believes in the one perfect benevolent being who walked on this earth who existed as the standard bearer for how every human should exist. Yet atheists point to this standard and how it is unattainable and use this as proof as God cannot exist, but will use the force of the state to force a utopia that apes the highest principles of this deity they don't believe in.
Hate to break it to you but if you believed in a devil then you weren't an Atheist.
 
Also…why is nobody in this thread actually responding to the OP’s post and instead sperging about Islam?
Because Atheism as a social movement died a decade ago and moon cult pedophiles in turbans are the hot new fad.
 
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