People Who Did Nothing Wrong

Lorgar Aurelian and Magnus the Red

Add Angron to that list and you're on to something. Every bad decision that led to the Heresy can be laid squarely at the feet of the lunatic narcissist fuckup that we generally know as The Emperor. I wonder how he feels, rotting on his throne knowing that the last 10,000 years of human survival have been Lorgar's ultimate vindication.

And I'm going to add Francisco Franco to the list. Holy shit, were the Spanish Republicans real pieces of work.
 
Aurelian, a guy who none knew till he put on the mask.
Add Angron to that list and you're on to something. Every bad decision that led to the Heresy can be laid squarely at the feet of the lunatic narcissist fuckup that we generally know as The Emperor. I wonder how he feels, rotting on his throne knowing that the last 10,000 years of human survival have been Lorgar's ultimate vindication.

And I'm going to add Francisco Franco to the list. Holy shit, were the Spanish Republicans real pieces of work.
you can put erda just behind emps then, if she hadn't fucked up then the primarchs would have been fine.
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I used to be neutral on the Spanish Civil War. Then I got educated. The funny thing is that practically every source is slanted to one degree or another in favor of the Republicans and it's still easy to see what a bunch of absolute bastards they were. Let's run through things, shall we?

Contrary to popular belief, the Republic's election results shifted to the right after only two years. Ironically, one of the reasons for this was the enfranchisement of women, who in Spain during this era favored the right (something lefties today don't like to mention much for some reason). This didn't matter though, because the left kept exploiting loopholes to remain in power as much as possible and undercut any power the right rightfully gained. They repeatedly denied CEDA (the right wing coalition) its right to form a government. The Republicans should be called "Republicans" in scare quotes, because they represented republican government in name only, especially once they sided with the commies and anarchists, who had already tried to overthrow the elected government several times.

Commies and anarchists displayed an insatiable lust for Catholic blood during the whole time period of the Republic, starting up anti-clerical violence within the first year. Anyone who tries to tell you that these bastards were only so anti-Catholic in Spain because of the relationship between Catholicism and Falangism (fascism, as they'll no doubt say because that's the scarier word), don't believe the fuckers. That is an exact reversal of cause and effect. Catholics were drawn to Falangism and the Nationalists because of the relentless, violent persecution of commies and anarchists who saw them as easy targets for their spergout rage murder and arson sprees. When the right won elections commies and anarchists murdered people and burned shit, with a focus on priests and churches. When the left won elections commies and anarchists murdered people and burned shit, with a focus on priests and churches.

The left led Republican government constantly dragged its feet to do anything whatsoever about this because these groups were also a major source of support for the Popular Front. By the time the right decided it was time to overthrow the government after years of getting fucked over trying to work within the system, there were already several large parts of the country that were basically in open left wing revolution, which the Popular Front led government was doing absolutely fucking nothing about. But of course once Franco came, these two groups (the Republic government and the far left revolutionaries) set aside their differences and allied to put down the "rebellion."

The Civil War would have been completely different, and a lot less bloody, if these supposedly more moderate leftists in the government had volunteered to work with the right to put down all the violence and criminality from the far left, or if they'd just honored the elections properly in the first place, but that would have meant ultimately losing most of their political power.

Lefties also like to excuse Republican atrocities by casting doubt on whether they were ordered from higher up, because unlike in the Nationalists, the Republicans preferred to go on a system that worked more like this:
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But replace demanding twenty bucks with death squads, and the two guys are absolutely in association, but the guy without the gun insists that he can't keep the guy with the gun in check.

The Spanish Civil War was brutal and horrific on both sides, but the "Republicans" were a bunch of two-faced, corrupt bastards their whole time in power who enabled and abetted violent extremists in intense religious persecution and murder, and constantly undermined the representative government they claimed to support. By contrast, after the brief, brutal crackdown period post war, Franco reigned over a lengthy period of peace, stability, law, order, and economic prosperity.
 
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I used to be neutral on the Spanish Civil War. Then I got educated. The funny thing is that practically every source is slanted to one degree or another in favor of the Republicans and it's still easy to see what a bunch of absolute bastards they were. Let's run through things, shall we?

Contrary to popular belief, the Republic's election results shifted to the right after only two years. Ironically, one of the reasons for this was the enfranchisement of women, who in Spain during this era favored the right (something lefties today don't like to mention much for some reason). This didn't matter though, because the left kept exploiting loopholes to remain in power as much as possible and undercut any power the right rightfully gained. They repeatedly denied CEDA (the right wing coalition) its right to form a government. The Republicans should be called "Republicans" in scare quotes, because they represented republican government in name only, especially once they sided with the commies and anarchists, who had already tried to overthrow the elected government several times.

Commies and anarchists displayed an insatiable lust for Catholic blood during the whole time period of the Republic, starting up anti-clerical violence within the first year. Anyone who tries to tell you that these bastards were only so anti-Catholic in Spain because of the relationship between Catholicism and Falangism (fascism, as they'll no doubt say because that's the scarier word), don't believe the fuckers. That is an exact reversal of cause and effect. Catholics were drawn to Falangism and the Nationalists because of the relentless, violent persecution of commies and anarchists who saw them as easy targets for their spergout rage murder and arson sprees. When the right won elections commies and anarchists murdered people and burned shit, with a focus on priests and churches. When the left won elections commies and anarchists murdered people and burned shit, with a focus on priests and churches.

The left led Republican government constantly dragged its feet to do anything whatsoever about this because these groups were also a major source of support for the Popular Front. By the time the right decided it was time to overthrow the government after years of getting fucked over trying to work within the system, there were already several large parts of the country that were basically in open left wing revolution, which the Popular Front led government was doing absolutely fucking nothing about. But of course once Franco came, these two groups (the Republic government and the far left revolutionaries) set aside their differences and allied to put down the "rebellion."

The Civil War would have been completely different, and a lot less bloody, if these supposedly more moderate leftists in the government had volunteered to work with the right to put down all the violence and criminality from the far left, or if they'd just honored the elections properly in the first place, but that would have meant ultimately losing most of their political power.

Lefties also like to excuse Republican atrocities by casting doubt on whether they were ordered from higher up, because unlike in the Nationalists, the Republicans preferred to go on a system that worked more like this:
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But replace demanding twenty bucks with death squads, and the two guys are absolutely in association, but the guy without the gun insists that he can't keep the guy with the gun in check.

The Spanish Civil War was brutal and horrific on both sides, but the "Republicans" were a bunch of two-faced, corrupt bastards their whole time in power who enabled and abetted violent extremists in intense religious persecution and murder, and constantly undermined the representative government they claimed to support. By contrast, after the brief, brutal crackdown period post war, Franco reigned over a lengthy period of peace, stability, law, order, and economic prosperity.
The Republicans were vile and destructive, persecuting everyone from Catholics to small businessmen. Without Franco, Spain had a future as a semi lawless, semi Commie dump, piled with the corpses of both their foes and Commies who were insufficiently Commie.

His wild demands of Hitler either meant a small chance of a nice empire in north Africa, or, as happened, semi neutrality. The Blue Division in the Soviet Union, sent as supposed volunteers but government recruited, were noted for their correct conduct compared to the Germans or their allies. It's one reason why I consider much of the claims against Franco are exaggerated. Guernica and other incidents were real, but there is so much pro Republican bias.
 
Maximilian was hired by conservative Mexican landowners, but instead tried to rule as a liberal reformist. Most of his laws were copied by the succeeding Republic. However, he should have been mindful of which part of Mexico supported him. Liberal rule was only possible with French backing.
 
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the gay elves came to his land and stole it form his people. why could we have not gotten the chad trolls on the horde instead of beta elves?

Oh dear, I was under the impression you were saying that Trolls were removed from WoW for what I would assume is them being Jamaican and Cuban sounding being RACISS. Thank God.

I haven't played since Mists of Pandaria so believe me I'm completely out of the loop.
 
The impression I get of the Mexican civil war is that it’s one of those cases where both sides were basically right and the leaders on both sides seemed to be essentially good people. Maximiliano and Juarez both come across as genuinely caring and morally upright.
Right in a way but Max needed to be able to pivot according to circumstance. If he started with whatever his native supporters wanted, he would then have had credit for later. Without that, his rule was built on sand.

If Kaiser Bill had taken care not to provoke Uncle Sam with attacks on US vessels, or at least not give cause to Woodrow Wilson's war plans, he could have survived. The US boats may have been aiding Britain, but their content was far less harmful than the men and matériel US boats were later carrying, thanks to the an unwillingness to restrain U boat warfare.
 
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He just wanted some power. Nothing wrong with that.
Never read Berserk but I am familiar with a rough outline of what happens (plus the memes). Part of me tries to rationalize his Eclipse actions in that old Griffith died under torture and that all that's left is a hollow shell; an animal.

Also, King of Midland is a horrorcow and I do not feel bad for him at all.
 
"Soldier F", the Para who who slotted fuck out of a fenian mob on Bloody Sunday. He was justified and should get a medal, a monetary award, a full pardon, and an apology. And then he should be put in stocks on the Shankill Road for not having the sense to blow McGuiness' meagre brains all over the Bogside
 
Adolf Hitler. He took Weimar Germany and turned it around, making it an industrial powerhouse and a formidable military presence were it once was an impoverished, badly weakened nation. How many people could do that in a country where a loaf of bread cost literally millions of German Marks? If he had just robbed and expelled the Jews as opposed to murdering them, he might've been looked upon as a misunderstood genius.
Can't believe it took 13 responses to get to Hitler.
 
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Fictional example: Pagan Min:

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This BAMF basically saved a Third World country from complete chaos. It's not fair that the only real choices you have are a drug lord wannabe and a religious (and potentially pedophilic) fanatic.

Of course, there's the "real" ending where you find out that Min is actually a pretty nice guy, who is really no worse than his opponents. He actually takes you to see your mother's grave, and you can tell he does have a bit of a tender heart for a ruthless dictator. I wish there was a path that would let you play as a supporter of Min.
 
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