🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

:story: this fucking retard pig wants to consult some Meheecoh quack chiropractor bullshit to realign his bloated piggy spine and displaced hooves? :story:
Coping seething and malding at someone who's in the medical field because his retard quack medicine voodoo was questioned?
At least CTM apologists like to say it's about the state of the mind and all that trash heap, 99% of it won't work but 99% of time it also won't hurt. A chiropractor? Seriously? Their ghastly practice killed many healthy people before and cured zero.
At least just buy some stupid fucking healing rocks and shove a cactus amethyst up your butt to enchant your chakra. At least it won't hurt you. Knowing piggytits, he'll enjoy it.
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I fucking kid you not I've met people at both mineral shows and hospitals who own dildos and buttplugs made out of common rocks and minerals like agate and granite that they pleasure themselves with, because the "crystal frequencies" is good for them, and deep insertion allows maximum healing. Whatever the fuck.
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Um no please don't buy these and shove them into your orifices.
Maybe he needs to retrieve that crystal dildo on top of Chichén Itzá to accentuate with the aroma from Nora's dildo and shove it straight up his butt for all these health woes to vanish, the Mayan gods will protect him.
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Ignore the haydurs Ralph, chiropractors are legit. Here's one I personally recommend (I'm the table in the video):
 
AltisticRight said:
A chiropractor? Seriously? Their ghastly practice killed many healthy people before and cured zero.
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In the US, a number of licensed physical therapists use chiropractic techniques for specific purpose related to rehabilitation. It caught on maybe 10 years ago with a more credible crowd, and I've personally had a really good outcome from recovering from an injury. My insurance even paid for it.

You have to be careful about who you go to, though. There is vast chasm of difference between physical therapists that figured out some chiro stuff has a useful purpose, and space cadet chakra enthusiasts who want to realign your chi and end up giving you a herniated disc. I doubt Ralph is going to find the 'good ones' in Mexico.
 
Public Disrespector said:
In the US, a number of licensed physical therapists use chiropractic techniques for specific purpose related to rehabilitation. It caught on maybe 10 years ago with a more credible crowd, and I've personally had a really good outcome from recovering from an injury. My insurance even paid for it.

You have to be careful about who you go to, though. There is vast chasm of difference between physical therapists that figured out some chiro stuff has a useful purpose, and space cadet chakra enthusiasts who want to realign your chi and end up giving you a herniated disc. I doubt Ralph is going to find the 'good ones' in Mexico.
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At best they're licensed physiotherapist types catering to idiots that buy into quack retardation.
The bar of having insurance paying for something can be pretty low, I've heard of insurance covering acupuncture and homeopathy.
This doesn't make them legit and to be fair it doesn't deligitimise them either.

I read some paper saying it could help with backpain.
Um, so will exercise and massages.
 
AltisticRight said:
This doesn't make them legit and to be fair it doesn't deligitimise them either.

I read some paper saying it could help with backpain.
Um, so will exercise and massages.
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I went to a physical therapist my PCP recommended for a collarbone/shoulder/trapezius mess I had from boxing. Evidently Tom Brady popularized chiro techniques for sports medicine purposes, and it's gotten more purchase since then since in legitimate circles.

It was all part of a larger treatment plan, but the whole 'making sure your muscular and skeletal system moves in the fashion for which it is evolutionary designed' thing has some uses that actual medical practitioners are integrating.

All I know is that my shoulder is not longer a mess and I didn't have to have surgery. I'll take that W and I don't care what you call how I got there.
 
Public Disrespector said:
I went to a physical therapist my PCP recommended for a collarbone/shoulder/trapezius mess I had from boxing. Evidently Tom Brady popularized chiro techniques for sports medicine purposes, and it's gotten more purchase since then since in legitimate circles.

It was all part of a larger treatment plan, but the whole 'making sure your muscular and skeletal system moves in the fashion for which it is evolutionary designed' thing has some uses that actual medical practitioners are integrating.

All I know is that my shoulder is not longer a mess and I didn't have to have surgery. I'll take that W and I don't care what you call how I got there.
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from everything i've read and heard both online and irl, chiropractic seems to be useful when applied correctly to joint and movement issues stemming from the back, neck, and shoulders, which perfectly tracks with its actual mechanical adjustments. it probably won't be fixing AIDS, but if your back hurts, a physio with chiropractic techniques might be able to help.

you can't chiropractic away your problems with addiction, ralph.
 
Chiropractors are good for physical therapy shit and that’s about it

Goddammit there are few things I hate more than bad medicine fucking GO TO A DOCTOR YOU FAT RETARD
 
Oh good, my descent into howling madness was saved for posterity.

The most insane part of this struggle session hasn't even been addressed, though: when I told @theralph exactly what type of therapy he should talk to his doctor about, he complained that it "wasn't what the abstract he'd read said."

Well, Ethan, I didn't link you a fucking abstract. I linked you the full text of a September 2024 systematic review that comprehensively screened almost 28,000 neurology papers on the subject of peripheral neuropathy, culled that list down to 203 relevant studies, and synthesized those 203 findings to generate a consensus treatment recommendation.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11402678/

This is literally the most robust analysis of peripheral neuropathy (including compressive radial neuropathy) that has EVER been conducted in history, and it does the most to fully summarize the current state of the field as a whole. The mere concept of holding a single abstract (that was definitely captured by this paper's search strategy, which is fully outlined in the text) is so unhinged I can barely process it. All 203 included citations are listed at this link, so go ahead and check.

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Chiropractic is probably the most dangerous of the 'mainstream' pseudo-medical scam fields because of the harsh mechanical perturbation they apply to their patients. Anyone who sees an actual chiropractor is taking their life into their hands and would be advised to stop right away. The tables they use to 'adjust' their patients' spines belong in a torture chamber and are well known to cause vertebral artery dissections, and there are PLENTY of case reports of outright vertebral artery TRANSSECTIONS (full severing of the artery, irreparable and almost instantly fatal). They aren't just 'spine manipulators', either - they have all sorts of deranged new-age occult beliefs about their approach that have no basis in objective reality and that inform their approach in dangerous ways.

As was noted, there is SOME useful insight to be gained from chiropractic. You can say the same about any field of quack medicine - Ayurveda gave us ashwagandha, a compound that is fueling very interesting drug discovery. Traditional Chinese medicine brought forward acupunture, the benefits of which are heavily overstated by practitioners but which DOES offer a degree of short-term functional improvement, per robust analysis by the Cochrane Collaboration.

This does not validate the field as a whole. Naturally, if you try random shit long enough, you're eventually going to come up with one or two things that actually help by chance alone. A stopped clock is right twice a day, and every so often, a chiropractic technique is helpful. Such approaches are already being incorporated into real orthopedic care, sports medicine, and occupational therapy, fields that are actually grounded and sane, so there's still no reason to ever see one of those scamming lunatics. You'd honestly be better off hiring a bum to poke you with a stick in hopes he jabs the nerve or muscle that's bothering you, because at least his stick won't cripple or kill you.
 
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Haru Okumura said:
Chiropractic is probably the most dangerous of the 'mainstream' pseudo-medical scam fields because of the harsh mechanical perturbation they apply to their patients. Anyone who sees an actual chiropractor is taking their life into their hands and would be advised to stop right away. The tables they use to 'adjust' their patients' spines belong in a torture chamber and are well known to cause vertebral artery dissections, and there are PLENTY of case reports of outright vertebral artery TRANSSECTIONS (full severing of the artery, irreparable and almost instantly fatal). They aren't just 'spine manipulators', either - they have all sorts of deranged new-age occult beliefs about their approach that have no basis in objective reality and that inform their approach in dangerous ways.
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Can anyone expand more on this? I have seen chiropractors twice in my life, both times for back pain and not for anything else, they seemed to help and I've been tempted to try and see one again just to get my spine "aligned". The wikipedia page and many places say its basically pseudoscience but I have heard some people say that getting their back "aligned" helped their posture + activity (it didn't magically cure all their ailments) and the pseudoscience claim seems to be about everything besides actual back pain and posture.

I kind of feel like if the artery dissections and stuff like that were at all common then we'd hear a fucking whole lot more about it, but I've never heard anyone in my friend circle of beyond say "I went to a chiropractor and they snapped my neck in half lol". I'm not doubting that it happens but I am guessing the prevalence of it must be extremely low and it kind of seems like the risk of it happening is about the same as any medical procedure (I know someone who had to go into critical medical care because they visited the dentist and plaque somehow made it into their bloodstream).

Like ritalin and many medications can cause Priapism (a prolonged erection) and generally you have to go to a hospital and have a needle inserted in the side of your cock to drain the blood out--but that doesn't stop it being widely prescribed because the chance of it happening is so miniscule.

So if we leave aside the idea that chiropractors can solve kidney disease or world peace and just focus on actual back pain and people with poor posture (especially since nowadays people have jobs where they stand for 20 hours a day or sit in front of a computer for 20 hours a day, both of which are both highly unnatural) is it still considered pseudoscience when it comes to that?
 
Haru Okumura said:
I linked you the full text of a September 2024 systematic review that comprehensively screened almost 28,000 neurology papers on the subject of peripheral neuropathy, culled that list down to 203 relevant studies, and synthesized those 203 findings to generate a consensus treatment recommendation.
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Yet another proof that science is for fags, jews and redditors.
 
Alcohol/benzos/gabapentin/THC/with a sprinkling of pain meds makes for an exciting evening. All that's missing is a Seconal nightcap for his pigsomnia. Future so bright he has to wear shades.
 
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