🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

Will Faith and/or Amanda get another DVRO after this pillstream?

  • YES. Suffa piggy.

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  • NO! Another Ralphamale W.

    Votes: 109 28.2%

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Disingenuous, name the 19 other people who literally distributed revenge porn?

I am not saying that because I dislike Ralph, I dislike Ralph because he actually fucking sent revenge porn live. That is why people have totally disavowed him.

It’s extremely disturbing to see predators propped up and if Dave and other libertarians are propping up other predators this is why no one will know of them or take them seriously.

Misses Caucus ppl go from from scaring School board members with a threat to be doxed (because they are protecting pedos) to protecting predators themselves.

The hypocrisy. Ofc the stans won’t care but all the people you have to convince to have a shot at being taken seriously won’t be so kind, let alone consider a third party which has never been taken seriously before, especially on a national level.

They totally lose people like me who could have been helpful, but instead I end up warning others about them. Warning them they prop up predators, are absolute hypocrites and are fine with helping malicious people continue to harm others.
I disagree personally. I think there’s a significant chance that Dave Smith didn’t really know who Ethan Ralph even is, or very little of the autism spectacle that surrounds him, and agreed on the host out of the desire to debat Nicky the Knife (lmao I dunno why they call Fuentes ā€œthe knifeā€ he’s so little/skinny and goofy) on a platform as Nick has been banned everywhere. He, like the majority of normies, doesn’t know about the underbelly of odyssey/d-live or whatever other slurry put the funneled these people into. He probably knows the basics but w Ethan off YouTube and having minimal engagement on his Twitter he probably just sees him asanother sperg.

The idea that Dave, or the Mises, or anyone else in the lolbertarian party is actively propping up abusers is a little absurd to me. Also being against deplatforming people it kind of makes sense- let the market/the viewers/the people decide who they want to watch, where they want to spend their money, and how they spend their time. As much as I dislike Ethan the fact of the matter is that until it’s proven in court it’s all allegations anyways. We have all the info here, sure, but it’s really a niche part of the internet that people don’t really know about. Unless you find the farms or dig yourself it looks like a bad breakup by w a fat eceleb and a bpd bitch (which it is) surrounded by rumor and conjecture (which, again, it is). We know what Ethan is, and where to find the goods, but most people don’t.

What’s the school board/pedo shit tho? I usually keep my ear to the ground with niche drama (hence me being on the farms lol) but I’ve not heard anything like that. I’d like to hear the gossip lmao.
 
(lmao I dunno why they call Fuentes ā€œthe knifeā€ he’s so little/skinny and goofy)
he pulled a knife out on halsey during warskis and jfs ibs show

is that until it’s proven in court it’s all allegations anyways.
nigger he did it live

The idea that Dave, or the Mises, or anyone else in the lolbertarian party is actively propping up abusers is a little absurd to me. Also being against deplatforming people it kind of makes sense- let the market/the viewers/the people decide who they want to watch,
this argument is such bullshit to me since the right has always said not to follow or watch or support people for things they feel are immoral or gross or fucked. libertarians should be for platforms deciding what they can host if anything, what if i ban you for discussing shovels on my rake forum for being off topic am i violating your holy freedom of speech? if you advocate for fucking little kids am i not "allowed" to say "hey fuck this guy dont associate with him"?
 
I disagree personally. I think there’s a significant chance that Dave Smith didn’t really know who Ethan Ralph even is, or very little of the autism spectacle that surrounds him, and agreed on the host out of the desire to debat Nicky the Knife (lmao I dunno why they call Fuentes ā€œthe knifeā€ he’s so little/skinny and goofy) on a platform as Nick has been banned everywhere. He, like the majority of normies, doesn’t know about the underbelly of odyssey/d-live or whatever other slurry put the funneled these people into. He probably knows the basics but w Ethan off YouTube and having minimal engagement on his Twitter he probably just sees him asanother sperg.

The idea that Dave, or the Mises, or anyone else in the lolbertarian party is actively propping up abusers is a little absurd to me. Also being against deplatforming people it kind of makes sense- let the market/the viewers/the people decide who they want to watch, where they want to spend their money, and how they spend their time. As much as I dislike Ethan the fact of the matter is that until it’s proven in court it’s all allegations anyways. We have all the info here, sure, but it’s really a niche part of the internet that people don’t really know about. Unless you find the farms or dig yourself it looks like a bad breakup by w a fat eceleb and a bpd bitch (which it is) surrounded by rumor and conjecture (which, again, it is). We know what Ethan is, and where to find the goods, but most people don’t.
I agree that Smith probably didn't have a clue who Ralph was. That's just as bad as knowing though.

He's supposed to be a serious political candidate, and as such you HAVE to do proper backgrounding for this kind of stuff. There is a world of difference between deplatformed (for having DaNgERouS ideas) far right intellectuals and sewer pigs (with domestic violence adjacent charges hanging over their heads and fuck all intellectual honesty or genuine political beliefs) like Ralph: the first you can launch a legitimate defence of engaging with, especially as a libertarian when you're courting other liberty minded people, the latter though... not so much. Yeah, yeah, going on his platorm and talking with him isn't an endorsement of him, but why the fuck would you even have a single thing do with a toxic lump of a man like Ralph if you were serious about your career. You are right that it's largely just allegations and hearsay, but even then his advisors (assuming he has some) are negligent for not doing enough background work.

/rant
 
he pulled a knife out on halsey during warskis and jfs ibs show


nigger he did it live


this argument is such bullshit to me since the right has always said not to follow or watch or support people for things they feel are immoral or gross or fucked. libertarians should be for platforms deciding what they can host if anything, what if i ban you for discussing shovels on my rake forum for being off topic am i violating your holy freedom of speech? if you advocate for fucking little kids am i not "allowed" to say "hey fuck this guy dont associate with him"?
yeah he did it live. I know that . You know that. What I’m saying is that most people really don’t know who Ethan is or what allegations people have against him or why. Shit we both know he did it, but most people don’t.

As for deplatforming I pretty specifically said it’s up to people where they spend their money or what they watch. I’m not advocating controlling businesses and compelling service, I’m talking about the individual. I think it’s bullshit when a strong, loud, and politically motivated vocal minority wage a campaign against someone’s career. I’m against compelling services but I’m also against huge banks forcing people out of business while simultaneously choking out any competition to them. I really don’t have a solution so I typically speak about it on the personal level, as opposed to the business level (if that makes sense).

Edit to avoid double posting, @ddlloo

That’s fair. Tbh I really think he didn’t expect Ethan to be involved at all, and from what I heard he really wasn’t. I think Dave just found it convenient- Nick can pretty much only stream on odyssey or whatever, Ethan streams there and has an audience was ready/willing/able to host so he went with it. I can’t blame people for side eyeing it and it doesn’t really matter- he’s a 3rd rate political candidate that doesn’t even have ballot access in most states lmao- but you’ve def got a point.
 
yeah he did it live. I know that . You know that. What I’m saying is that most people really don’t know who Ethan is or what allegations people have against him or why. Shit we both know he did it, but most people don’t.
if you cant check for archives of an oft spammed revenge porn tape then your campaign is utter shit or youre entirely too invested in ethan ralph not being the type to do that, most people even dame who said he didnt see the tape leaked live found it fairly easily.

I’m talking about the individual. I think it’s bullshit when a strong, loud, and politically motivated vocal minority wage a campaign against someone’s career. I’m against compelling services but I’m also against huge banks forcing people out of business while simultaneously choking out any competition to them. I really don’t have a solution so I typically speak about it on the personal level, as opposed to the business level (if that makes sense).
on a personal level it makes even less sense since we cancel people for shit all the time we just dont call it that when we agree with it, i remember holly conrad saying she was cancelled because people insulted her for cheating on her husband. we have calls to boycott from the get woke go broke crowd all the time and sometimes i agree with them, sometimes the left are right to cancel people like ralph for calling 16 year olds who are trafficked "voluntarily" whores who were asking for it. there was probably a time where that was actually a minority opinion seen as basically demanding men geld themselves and neuter their natural sexuality.

i think youre using too broad a brush if you think not wanting people to support that or ralphs revenge porn is "cancelling someones freedom of speech" think you need to focus more on whether the person needs to be shunned or not rather than just not liking shunning in general
 
He, like the majority of normies, doesn’t know about the underbelly of odyssey/d-live or whatever other slurry put the funneled these people into. He probably knows the basics but w Ethan off YouTube and having minimal engagement on his Twitter he probably just sees him asanother sperg.

The idea that Dave, or the Mises, or anyone else in the lolbertarian party is actively propping up abusers is a little absurd to me. Also being against deplatforming people it kind of makes sense- let the market/the viewers/the people decide who they want to watch, where they want to spend their money, and how they spend their time. As much as I dislike Ethan the fact of the matter is that until it’s proven in court it’s all allegations anyways. We have all the info here, sure, but it’s really a niche part of the internet that people don’t really know about. Unless you find the farms or dig yourself it looks like a bad breakup by w a fat eceleb and a bpd bitch (which it is) surrounded by rumor and conjecture (which, again, it is). We know what Ethan is, and where to find the goods, but most people don’t.

What’s the school board/pedo shit tho? I usually keep my ear to the ground with niche drama (hence me being on the farms lol) but I’ve not heard anything like that. I’d like to hear the gossip lmao.
I actually don’t fault Dave Smith for not knowing who Ethan Ralph is or what malicious things ect. But the whole idea of why Ralph is paid by Odysee to stream and why this debate is even happening is because this is a commercial. A commercial for Odysee & these libertarians.

The person pushing this and deciding Ralph is the conduit to use is really stupid or wants to hurt Smith’s chances for a future imo. There can be people that could think most of the stuff is gossip about Ralph. Team Odysee can’t however, Ralph doxes & harasses people live. Ralph discusses his court stuff all the time.

I don’t want Ralph deplatformed. Team Odysee shouldn’t prop him up though because it leads to more people being harmed. There’s a difference between banning someone or just not favoring them like YouTube does with Ethan Klein.

The school board pedo thing - there were members on a school board in New Hampshire who were hiding the fact that abuse was occurring & protecting the predators. What was actually done was good imo they scared some of them into leaving by just mentioning that the creeps have addresses.

So basically I could say people who prop up streamers who send out revenge porn also have addresses.

They should understand the sentiment instead of trying to protect the predator by banning people’s channels that are fair use especially without a dmca. Blocking people on Twitter, Team YouTube isn’t that pathetic..

On a platform that is supposed to be better than YouTube but has harsher punishments all for someone who would trash them/dox them/harass in a second if they dare say he farted on a stream.

It’s unfair to say all the libertarians are propping him up but there’s other situations like an official lp member having to resign earlier this year. He was physically abusing his gf, and he even admitted to it. Yet this group of libertarians still support him. ā€œThe abuser is nice to me.ā€ Seems to be a common theme.
 
if you cant check for archives of an oft spammed revenge porn tape then your campaign is utter shit or youre entirely too invested in ethan ralph not being the type to do that, most people even dame who said he didnt see the tape leaked live found it fairly easily.


on a personal level it makes even less sense since we cancel people for shit all the time we just dont call it that when we agree with it, i remember holly conrad saying she was cancelled because people insulted her for cheating on her husband. we have calls to boycott from the get woke go broke crowd all the time and sometimes i agree with them, sometimes the left are right to cancel people like ralph for calling 16 year olds who are trafficked "voluntarily" whores who were asking for it. there was probably a time where that was actually a minority opinion seen as basically demanding men geld themselves and neuter their natural sexuality.

i think youre using too broad a brush if you think not wanting people to support that or ralphs revenge porn is "cancelling someones freedom of speech" think you need to focus more on whether the person needs to be shunned or not rather than just not liking shunning in general
Eh I’d say that there’s all kinds of people that should be shunned and I’m not arguing to not shun them or anything. What I’m talking about are harassment campaigns against people (in general, not just Ethan) that make them lose their livelihood and community and support systems. Let people know what kind of person someone is and if they still support them and buy their shit that’s on them. Shunning isn’t bad and it’s an excellent social tool to discourage bad behavior but we’re in a spot where it’s gone past shunning and into harassment (of some people) with a lot of them having no way out. Usually shunning is done until the person learns what their doing is annoying, but we’re seeing more that people aren’t doing that. It’s total removal of any social activities and I don’t really get behind that.

As for Dave.. he’s a normie (I hate that word, but I can’t think of a better one. It’s late here) preaching to normies and none of them know they’re normies. He thinks he’s a fringe element when he isn’t really. He just has the benefit of saying common sense shit (that we’ve all been saying and thinking) in public wo too much bullshit. It was dumb to go on Ethan’s show and he’s probably going to find out that when you roll in the mud with pigs you get more than mud on your shirt. As for Ethan.. he a retard. I don’t care if he’s shunned or not. Tbh if he’s driven off the internet then I won’t be able to laugh at him as much so I hope people do keep going in his show and I hope he keeps getting enough to scrape by. He’s much funnier with a little $ in his piggy pockets. I don’t think anyone has cancelled his free speech (I don’t think I said anything like that? I could be wrong but I just mention Dave Smith was against deplatforming and he ma not care if he knew about him as he hadn’t been convicted of anything.. it’s late here tho) but I don’t want them to. When he’s online he can’t get away w too awful much Bc the fucking retard can’t keep quiet about ANYTHING lmao.
 
Eh I’d say that there’s all kinds of people that should be shunned and I’m not arguing to not shun them or anything. What I’m talking about are harassment campaigns against people (in general, not just Ethan) that make them lose their livelihood and community and support systems. Let people know what kind of person someone is and if they still support them and buy their shit that’s on them. Shunning isn’t bad and it’s an excellent social tool to discourage bad behavior but we’re in a spot where it’s gone past shunning and into harassment (of some people) with a lot of them having no way out. Usually shunning is done until the person learns what their doing is annoying, but we’re seeing more that people aren’t doing that. It’s total removal of any social activities and I don’t really get behind that.
ralph has been legally recognized as harassing people to the point he literally had to have his 1st amendment rights revoked. also "its on them" it really isnt if you dont say "hey wtf do you support barely legal scat revenge porn?" consequences only exist in so far as people enforce it. theres proportional response but there really isnt much that ralph doenst deserve,

I don’t think anyone has cancelled his free speech (I don’t think I said anything like that? I could be wrong but I just mention Dave Smith was against deplatforming and he ma not care if he knew about him as he hadn’t been convicted of anything.. it’s late here tho) but I don’t want them to. When he’s online he can’t get away w too awful much Bc the fucking retard can’t keep quiet about ANYTHING lmao.
i dont think conviction only is a good standard when you can easily find ralph sharing the revenge porn live, if he cant find that he shouldnt be running for so much as county head of sanitation. i think its this network of cop outs people build so they can just grift off propping up revenge pornographers and probable sex offenders like ethan ralph. hell even the license info picture i posted is suspicious on ethans part and hes refused to easily and with no cost prove he isnt a registered chomo
 
ralph has been legally recognized as harassing people to the point he literally had to have his 1st amendment rights revoked. also "its on them" it really isnt if you dont say "hey wtf do you support barely legal scat revenge porn?" consequences only exist in so far as people enforce it. theres proportional response but there really isnt much that ralph doenst deserve,
I really do think a lot of Ralphs tard immunity has just been how low profile he is, meanwhile having that check mark on twitter is enough to get any dumb fuck running for an office as a legitimate source. If the outrage mob really knew of Ralph they'd end his last few bread crumbs.
As for Dave.. he’s a normie (I hate that word, but I can’t think of a better one. It’s late here) preaching to normies and none of them know they’re normies. He thinks he’s a fringe element when he isn’t really. He just has the benefit of saying common sense shit (that we’ve all been saying and thinking) in public wo too much bullshit. It was dumb to go on Ethan’s show and he’s probably going to find out that when you roll in the mud with pigs you get more than mud on your shirt. As for Ethan.. he a retard. I don’t care if he’s shunned or not. Tbh if he’s driven off the internet then I won’t be able to laugh at him as much so I hope people do keep going in his show and I hope he keeps getting enough to scrape by. He’s much funnier with a little $ in his piggy pockets. I don’t think anyone has cancelled his free speech (I don’t think I said anything like that? I could be wrong but I just mention Dave Smith was against deplatforming and he ma not care if he knew about him as he hadn’t been convicted of anything.. it’s late here tho) but I don’t want them to. When he’s online he can’t get away w too awful much Bc the fucking retard can’t keep quiet about ANYTHING lmao.
Let's get this settled for any dumb fuck that doesn't know the extent. Ralph isn't just some e-tard like Tonka, Warski, and Mundanematt getting his harvest. He's a lying, vindictive, petty, opportunistic convicted felon that has committed crimes out of spite (the revenge porn), seems to target mentally ill women like a jabba the hut ted bundy (the women he gets are shit so don't feel bad). We are blessed that Ralph has only hurt dumb fucks like Pantsu, Digibro, Faith Vickers, Flamenco, Zoom (no one you'll cry about). But calling Ralph a racist, a felon, a deadbeat dad, a predator, a degenerate gambler isn't some woke "you're a fascist" phrase that has lost all meaning. He get's called those things because he is those things.

Now for how long can he continue? who knows. Jarbo got crucified for doing something Ralph gloats about keep that in mind, the playing field is much different. We're at the precipice of what he has left, so we don't know where his sealing would be if he actually gathered momentum. If he got too much we'd know they'd strike him down.
 
Ralph when talking about Nick's success with the Rittenhouse trial "I don't talk about Rekieta anymore."
lol he tried to dunk on flamenco for lower viewers at the time too, having to simultaneously contradict his own copes in real time. now even flamenco does better viewers. what a cowardly little womanly bitch.
 
lol he tried to dunk on flamenco for lower viewers at the time too, having to simultaneously contradict his own copes in real time. now even flamenco does better viewers. what a cowardly little womanly bitch.
We already know his cope "ah' MAID' flamengo!!! MAID HIM. Tha' ungrateful' son......OF A MOTHER FUCKER OWES ME EVERYTHING!.....no loyalty....NO. LOYAL. T. Have my gift to you flamenco"
 
Dave isn't your usual libertarian, he understands that the masterson-types are just psychopaths looking for an ideology to let them go nuts. He even has quite the lifestory, from being a wigger fucking in public and drinking 40s begging people for money on the street until he had enough for some weed and a 40, to turning his own life around converting to chrisitanity and preaching the evils of thottery and abortion, and he was doing that before Nick hit puberty.

The other thing is that Dave always viewed the old school libertarian party as a bunch of losers. He even did to them what Trump did to the RNC when it came to their elections and then after that a bunch of the life long libertarian officials jumped ship because they found the new blood like Dave to be too eccentric as he was actually accomplishing something in a more practical way instead of debating the ethical ramifications of 0.01% tax increase on lower class black communities living in Iraq.
 
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Disingenuous, name the 19 other people who literally distributed revenge porn?
Sure. Big Jay Oakerson, Luis J Gomez, Shane Gillis, Ari Shaffir, Mark Normand, Michael Che, colum tyrell, Paul Virtzi, Yannis Puapas, Zac Amico, aaron berg, rich vos, nate bergetze, joe list, dan soder, dante nero, doug stanhope, joey diaz, kurt metzger,and jason ellis


See what you didn't know because you're a teenager is that what we call revenge porn; back during the myspace days was considered a fun joke. So people like the creek&Cave regulars would show each other their sex tapes all the time. which by 2021 definitions is in fact distributing child porn.

Thats the other problem, you're so pure that the idea of having toxic friends (or any friends really) is insane to you. So Dave Smith hanging out with the people who he'd rap with 20 years ago is considered obscene to you.

You have never watched Legion of Skanks, have you? The content on that podcast is way more offensive than anything Ethan fucking Ralph and Nick Fuentes produce.
exactly
 
What the hell did Ralph do to his hair?
He took a shower. Saying he washed it is extremely optimistic, but even rinsing away just some of the grease it's regularly caked in with hot water allows it hang as it should. And, it makes him look like a huge faggot. The retard hair, bifurcated gunt, toothpick legs, etc. Gunt's own DNA ayylawgs him on a daily basis.
 
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