🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

[CringeMomma]

If Ralph is worth 30k to Odysee, how much is Salty getting??

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

I think the answer to that would be fairly self evident

This bot thing man warski and ppp just psyopped the poor little bastard, I remember when ralph had so many viewers over ppp it seemed like it was impossible the gap would close, this is sad piggy doesn't have the thumbs or ability to walk upright or use tools to defend himself

Or a brain to use. If I were in this situation, I'd be pretty suspicious why I have over 1k views but barely anyone is talking.

 

[MeltyTW]

Or a brain to use. If I were in this situation, I'd be pretty suspicious why I have over 1k views but barely anyone is talking.

its possible ethan doesnt actually know the real viewer count, i bet meigh or some guntlicker is booting it up "a bit" and didnt tell him the real count, possible multiples who dont communicate with each other, i bet all of them slacked except ralphs little boost of tabs and he panicked because were starting to see his real situation, this is pitiful, hes been trying to avoid looking under 500 viewers for years, if your cope is you dont give af why lie? if you dont give af why brag and cope everytime it looks like youre even close to begin to crawling back?

 

[TheSword]

This entire claim of him having a 30k deal with a streaming platform he barely registers on has always been so weird and dubious to me. It throws into question the legitimacy of Odysee as a business too, because why on god’s green earth would any company agree to give someone 30k when said person doesn’t even come close to earning them a fourth of that over a course of a year? It feels like, if true, odysee is trying to burn money for some reason. I refuse to believe it can be chalked up to pure retardation.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

This entire claim of him having a 30k deal with a streaming platform he barely registers on has always been so weird and dubious to me. It throws into question the legitimacy of Odysee as a business too, because why on god’s green earth would any company agree to give someone 30k when said person doesn’t even come close to earning them a fourth of that over a course of a year? It feels like, if true, odysee is trying to burn money for some reason. I refuse to believe it can be chalked up to pure retardation.

They're probably going into debt in attempt to draw venture capital.

 

[High Tea]

This entire claim of him having a 30k deal with a streaming platform he barely registers on has always been so weird and dubious to me. It throws into question the legitimacy of Odysee as a business too, because why on god’s green earth would any company agree to give someone 30k when said person doesn’t even come close to earning them a fourth of that over a course of a year? It feels like, if true, odysee is trying to burn money for some reason. I refuse to believe it can be chalked up to pure retardation.

Julian, the head of Odysee, is a starfucker. He's buying friends.

Dave Smith said on his show Odysee schedules debates to draw traffic and uses the Killstream as the debate platform. Smith debated Nick Fuentes on the Killstream.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

It throws into question the legitimacy of Odysee as a business too, because why on god’s green earth would any company agree to give someone 30k when said person doesn’t even come close to earning them a fourth of that over a course of a year? It feels like, if true, odysee is trying to burn money for some reason.

The thing is that they have a terrible reputation even among the talent that streams there. As one popular creator put it to me, “Let’s just say I’ve been asked and encouraged to promote the platform and I have declined.” They’re known as young, dumb guys who are going to burn through other people’s money but not for long.

So they might conceivably be stupid enough to offer Ethan a deal. But math is math and the only way to make Ethan Ralph worth $30k is to strap a murse on him with a check for $30k inside.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

This entire claim of him having a 30k deal with a streaming platform he barely registers on has always been so weird and dubious to me. It throws into question the legitimacy of Odysee as a business too, because why on god’s green earth would any company agree to give someone 30k when said person doesn’t even come close to earning them a fourth of that over a course of a year? It feels like, if true, odysee is trying to burn money for some reason. I refuse to believe it can be chalked up to pure retardation.

Why yes, give 30k to someone who was directly responsible for torching an entire streaming service.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

There was never any offer of a $30k contract for Ralph. He’s been watching other people get contracts or earn more money each year while he’s been nose diving to the sewer. He told Gator and others this shit to pump up his ego and make it look like he’s not a dumpster fire. I just can’t believe Gator believed, but then again poor Gator believed a lot of BS Ralph told him.

He probably wanted to believe that deal was real as badly as Ralph because Gator had hoped he could maybe not have to get a real job if this KS thing can gain real traction again. Also good carrot to use to make Gator keep doing Gunt work for next to nothing.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

I sure do hope Killstreamdottv hosts my favourite podcast

Mad At The iNTERNET

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

I sure do hope Killstreamdottv hosts my favourite podcast

Mad At The iNTERNET

No, that podcast is actually popular. Can't have popular podcasts on Killstreamdottv

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

There was never any offer of a $30k contract for Ralph. He’s been watching other people get contracts or earn more money each year while he’s been nose diving to the sewer. He told Gator and others this shit to pump up his ego and make it look like he’s not a dumpster fire. I just can’t believe Gator believed, but then again poor Gator believed a lot of BS Ralph told him.

He probably wanted to believe that deal was real as badly as Ralph because Gator had hoped he could maybe not have to get a real job if this KS thing can gain real traction again. Also good carrot to use to make Gator keep doing Gunt work for next to nothing.

Odyssee and the other streamers would have called him out on it if it weren't true.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Odyssee and the other streamers would have called him out on it if it weren't true.

Not necessarily. Odyssey’s management team is young and dumb enough to think such rumors make them sound baller. Plus it’s not a good look for any platform to be seen as intimidating its creators. People let far worse shit pass just because nobody but Ethan has time to fight about fucking everything.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Odyssee and the other streamers would have called him out on it if it weren't true.

How would other streamers know what contracts and fees Odyssee is offering, or not, to anyone besides themselves? Why would Odysee bother to comment on a rumor about a pissant like Ralph? It’s not like it’s being reported on CNN, just some spergs here and in circles that mock Ralph. Odyssey probably likes any gossip about their platform, they are def a “any publicity is good publicity” type of company.

Publicly discussing financial dealings and earning seems like big no no in the streaming world across the board.

 

[Christorian X]

After considering the supposed deal, the killstream.tv deal, last week's BotGate, and Ralph's next few months some correlations have started to form. I think we need to consider one or two more factors to really see the full picture. Those are:

1) Odysee's actual motives
2) Nick Fuentes / Cozy

I believe that what we are seeing may indicate that Ralph is already attempting to stab Fuentes in the back. Consider what we know:

1) its become tragically clear Ralph has no audience, which means no income. Its more or less public knowledge now.

2) Fuentes has an entire platform filled with streamers that would in theory be ideal potential new viewers if Ralph could somehow make the Killstream attractive to them.

3) Fuentes is almost certainly going to jail. He is also going to be forced to hand over his financials which in theory would include every single streamer on his platform along with anyone who ever donated.

As for Odysee I think right now its not about quality, but quantity. They need enough content to keep people in their ecosystem. People get trapped in the YouTube rabbit hole going from video to video staying in their garden watching more and more ads.

I believe that there was a meeting with Ralph and Odysee where they said of he could prove he can generate a certain level of growth and/or content they would be interested in offering a contract. Ralph spun this into the contract is already a thing.

Meanwhile, cozy is set to implode, its streamers and viewers doxed to the federal government and its owner in jail. And here Ralph sits desperate for content, views and money.

I believe at this point Ralph has been silently plotting on trying to use Killstream.TV as a liferaft to catch all the Cozy fallout in an attempt to leverage with Odysee. If he believes that its content quantity and not quality Odysee needs and is able to scoop up cozy and bring it to them in a complete Killstream package he could position himself quite well.

This could easily be autistic sperging, but Ralph is also a sneaky, greedy manpig who thinks himself much more intelligent than he really is. I'm betting he thinks he can pull this off. Watch your back Nick.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

How would other streamers know what contracts and fees Odyssee is offering, or not, to anyone besides themselves? Why would Odysee bother to comment on a rumor about a pissant like Ralph? It’s not like it’s being reported on CNN, just some spergs here and in circles that mock Ralph. Odyssey probably likes any gossip about their platform, they are def a “any publicity is good publicity” type of company.

Publicly discussing financial dealings and earning seems like big no no in the streaming world across the board.

Because they'd be able to know how much they received, what their metrics look like and compare them to Ethan's. If people with actual audiences aren't getting $30K or more then it would immediately reveal that Ethan's contract isn't real. Odyssee would "bother" with it because they pay people to stream and if someone with an audience of no one is getting $30K, the people with an audience of a few hundred are going to be wondering where their paychecks are.

 

[MeltyTW]

Publicly discussing financial dealings and earning seems like big no no in the streaming world across the board.

Now that you menntion it it is, usually streamers try and have the bare minimum legal disclosure on things like sponsorships or deals. The fact ralph is airing their shit publicly is actually really pathetic.

I don't think any other eceleb ive seen mentions behind the scenes group rules or finances besides game grumps when Polaris banned singing and hololive streamers mentioning management and the machinima and channel awesome revolts.

Hololive it's because management and their live decisions is so ubiquitous and the audience is schizo theorists anyway and with Polaris and gg it was a big deal because of its scope and danny being known for his band and I don't remember either case mentioning finances or any other thing besides that

After considering the supposed deal, the killstream.tv deal, last week's BotGate, and Ralph's next few months some correlations have started to form. I think we need to consider one or two more factors to really see the full picture. Those are:

1) Odysee's actual motives
2) Nick Fuentes / Cozy

I believe that what we are seeing may indicate that Ralph is already attempting to stab Fuentes in the back. Consider what we know:

1) its become tragically clear Ralph has no audience, which means no income. Its more or less public knowledge now.

2) Fuentes has an entire platform filled with streamers that would in theory be ideal potential new viewers if Ralph could somehow make the Killstream attractive to them.

3) Fuentes is almost certainly going to jail. He is also going to be forced to hand over his financials which in theory would include every single streamer on his platform along with anyone who ever donated.

As for Odysee I think right now its not about quality, but quantity. They need enough content to keep people in their ecosystem. People get trapped in the YouTube rabbit hole going from video to video staying in their garden watching more and more ads.

I believe that there was a meeting with Ralph and Odysee where they said of he could prove he can generate a certain level of growth and/or content they would be interested in offering a contract. Ralph spun this into the contract is already a thing.

Meanwhile, cozy is set to implode, its streamers and viewers doxed to the federal government and its owner in jail. And here Ralph sits desperate for content, views and money.

I believe at this point Ralph has been silently plotting on trying to use Killstream.TV as a liferaft to catch all the Cozy fallout in an attempt to leverage with Odysee. If he believes that its content quantity and not quality Odysee needs and is able to scoop up cozy and bring it to them in a complete Killstream package he could position himself quite well.

This could easily be autistic sperging, but Ralph is also a sneaky, greedy manpig who thinks himself much more intelligent than he really is. I'm betting he thinks he can pull this off. Watch your back Nick.

This theory fails because ralph is a retard who only has it up to grift fans and as a lifeboat for himself and his gunt. The extent of his spite plans is wearing kid diddler hats in public and getting disfigured via beatings in Portugal

 

[Christorian X]

This theory fails because ralph is a retard who only has it up to grift fans and as a lifeboat for himself and his gunt. The extent of his spite plans is wearing kid diddler hats in public and getting disfigured via beatings in Portugal

Oh I don't at all think he will succeed. I simply think he believes he's capable of 4D chess which to everyone else just looks like Connect 4. Andy and Gator discussed on air Ralph's plans in the past to pressure all the co-hosts to generate free content to put behind his paywall for him to sell. I could see him trying this again.

 

[Nod Flenders]

Oh I don't at all think he will succeed. I simply think he believes he's capable of 4D chess which to everyone else just looks like Connect 4. Andy and Gator discussed on air Ralph's plans in the past to pressure all the co-hosts to generate free content to put behind his paywall for him to sell. I could see him trying this again.

When The Gunt inevitably fails again, he'll blame everyone but himself.

 

[MeltyTW]

Oh I don't at all think he will succeed. I simply think he believes he's capable of 4D chess which to everyone else just looks like Connect 4. Andy and Gator discussed on air Ralph's plans in the past to pressure all the co-hosts to generate free content to put behind his paywall for him to sell. I could see him trying this again.

The thing is your theory involves ralph not simply retreating to delusional cope on the state of nick and his imminent fate and being able to even ball park if wildly inaccurately time that with an odyssey proof of growth contingent deal.

The thing with Ralph is he's too retarded even for that amount of planning. I think even this idea is miles above trying to just pull the child to mother leech trick of just openly asking someone of they can have something in this case paywalled content instead of having to do it yourself.

His plan for null was the kid diddle hat, his plan for Jim was to cry during his apology blowjob on stream, his plan back when he could do gayops was to just be handed stuff and then tell the person the minute before he doxed them that they were crazy and probably would blame him for his imminent doxing of info only ralph had

Ralph isn't sneaky he literally just lucked into being able to do anything. He literal can't even survive outside America coddling him as proven in Portugal where pig blood stained the poor defiled soil and adjacent dog turds.

I think his plan is literally just open site get money and thousands of viewers that totally aren't Andy's bots and then he'll be the best