🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

[Haru Okumura]

could it really not just be a glitch on odysee end of things? i mean i couldnt comment for days because a glitch was preventing me from hitting the post button, it refused to acknowledge that the comment box wasnt empty of characters. didnt at null so he doesnt get me not understanding crypto while trying to sleep hopefully gets this when hes more in the mood

It's possible. However, reading over the way LBRY "tipping" works makes it clear that a user can "unlock" a tip and withdraw it to their wallet. They state that for LBC associated with a video, the "[r]ecipient can keep it staked or unlock (move to wallet balance)", which suggests that LBC associated with a specific video is not also associated with the user's main wallet, so the tip amount going down isn't necessarily a bug.

It does raise the question of whether or not it's possible to deduce the address associated with a given video, if such a thing even exists. Here is the block where he stakes the 0.1 LBC on the video upon initial upload, but that's all I've got at this point.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

It seems possible that LBC attached to a video isn't directly associated with the video owner's personal LBC wallet, doesn't it?

This seems to be the most likely possibility to me. Perhaps Ralph lucked out with one of his users being an early adopter who mined some of the coin early on, it wouldn;t be unprecedented. It could be a case similar to the guy who offed himself and gave a bunch of bitcoin to Fuentes and others (including Ralph). Alternatively perhaps he got an in with some of the staff who would have a nestegg of the currency to promote his videos. I do think this would be a bit odd though as LBRY has other creators I'd imagine would get promotion sooner, but Ralph does seem to reach out alot to the management of these sites.

 

[Eggg]

This is the blockchain. It's exposed wiring. LBRY can't fudge the numbers.

I think when you sign up to Odysee you get 0.27 LBRY coins for your account. I know this doesn't make up for the huge amount Ralph made but at least some of it would be from new accounts signing up and donating straight to him. Could Ralph be cheating the system and getting people to use multiple accounts (or gator spending all day creating them) then donating to him?

 

[Demonslayer1776]

https://kiwifarms.cc/notice/A5Dchx3OyKfIYWyfpY

According to Crunk it seems to be a UI bug

 

[Mundane Ralph]

It's possible. However, reading over the way LBRY "tipping" works makes it clear that a user can "unlock" a tip and withdraw it to their wallet. They state that for LBC associated with a video, the "[r]ecipient can keep it staked or unlock (move to wallet balance)", which suggests that LBC associated with a specific video is not also associated with the user's main wallet, so the tip amount going down isn't necessarily a bug.

It does raise the question of whether or not it's possible to deduce the address associated with a given video, if such a thing even exists. Here is the block where he stakes the 0.1 LBC on the video upon initial upload, but that's all I've got at this point.

Alright so if the options are keep it staked or move to wallet and the amount staked in the video went from 43k to 52 then why didn't it show up in his wallet? I still think it was just a display error.

 

[Sriracha]

Is there an archive of when the amount was in the Ks?

I was looking over this and I think this would probably be the most plausible reason for why an amount isn't showing up in Ralph's wallet:

A support boosts trust and performance, but does not give anything to the publisher permanently - therefore we call it a revokable support. The supporter can keep these staked as long as they like or revoke them anytime via the wallet page.

Wouldn't it make sense to instead of tipping an amount, use the revokable support feature to boost the stream in the algorithm and then revoke it soon after?

 

[Mundane Ralph]

Is there an archive of when the amount was in the Ks?

I was looking over this and I think this would probably be the most plausible reason for why an amount isn't showing up in Ralph's wallet:

Wouldn't it make sense to instead of tipping an amount, use the revokable support feature to boost the stream in the algorithm and then revoke it soon after?

I think you've probably figured it out

 

[Ol' Slag]

All of you have got it wrong.

Ralph is a glow in the dark. The motherfucker is Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer at this point.

His connections with the "alt right" got him pinched awhile back and he is now a fed, through and through.

All those weird donations that come to him that cannot be traced, getting off completely Scott free with revenge porn, being able to douse himself in cheap liquor, rough whores and knockoff xannies with no other discernable income other than pennies thrown at him by his turboautist audience.

The mystery is solved.

 

[Null]

It's possible. However, reading over the way LBRY "tipping" works makes it clear that a user can "unlock" a tip and withdraw it to their wallet. They state that for LBC associated with a video, the "[r]ecipient can keep it staked or unlock (move to wallet balance)", which suggests that LBC associated with a specific video is not also associated with the user's main wallet, so the tip amount going down isn't necessarily a bug.

This is it.

Ron Paul video had 46.52


When you go to support content (boosting its visibility by locking LBRY), you can untick "make this a tip", which means you can revoke it.


This amount is aggregated into the "Supports and Tips" category which does not differentiate between the two.


This amount can be withdrawn from the video by the sponsor with a button press.

 

[ddlloo]

This is it.

Ron Paul video had 46.52
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When you go to support content (boosting its visibility by locking LBRY), you can untick "make this a tip", which means you can revoke it.
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This amount is aggregated into the "Supports and Tips" category which does not differentiate between the two.
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This amount can be withdrawn from the video by the sponsor with a button press.
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Does Odysee take a cut out of the amount you put up at any stage?

 

[Haru Okumura]

Alternatively perhaps he got an in with some of the staff who would have a nestegg of the currency to promote his videos. I do think this would be a bit odd though as LBRY has other creators I'd imagine would get promotion sooner, but Ralph does seem to reach out alot to the management of these sites.

It's funny you should mention that, because when I was looking into the transactions to try to understand the LBRY blockchain, I did see what I believe to be evidence of exactly this.

Specifically, here is what appears to be Odysee/LBRY staff donating 2000 LBC (and another separate transaction of 100 LBC not pictured) to Ethan using the wallet bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf:



https://explorer.lbry.com/tx/56757f...Nngod7uKhU#bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU

(the bottom transaction where the wallet is sending coin back to itself seems to be how the LBRY blockchain handles change, but I'm far from a blockchain expert so maybe @CrunkLord420 can weigh in)

This 2000 LBC was sent to a wallet associated with @theralphretort on Odysee, bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU, and was then sent forward to the bYwaDEmBruqupqxoWYi7KkUV7iUReoFNr2 wallet Ethan currently uses. Here is the transaction showing that bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU is associated with Ethan's Odysee account:

LBRY Block Explorer • Claim • @theralphretort

Here is the transaction sending forward the 2000 LBC plus anything else lying around in that wallet to the wallet we know to be Ethan's (the full image is too large to post on this site due to image size limits):

LBRY Block Explorer • Transaction

And here is Ethan's known wallet showing the transaction came in and he has the 2000 LBC originating from bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf:



We can see that the source of the 2000 LBC is from LBRY staff because staffer Tom Zarebcyan used this wallet address, bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf, in sample code he wrote last year and posted on LBRY's official support forum:



https://forum.lbry.tech/t/how-to-sign-in-and-upload-video-using-the-lbry-sdk/312/2 (archive)

This address is also listed as the #166th wealthiest wallet on the blockchain:



https://explorer.lbry.com/stats?_ga=2.130205964.220125991.1590503633-15831098.1590503633 (archive)

Due to the huge amount of transactions it has processed, it is likely an official institutional LBRY/Odysee account of some sort, likely shared among staff, so I am not accusing Zarebcyan of personally associating with Ethan since I don't have any reason to believe that's the case. This address is definitely some sort of official dummy/test account that has seemingly been used to contribute several hundred USD worth of LBC to Ethan, however, and we should keep an eye on it moving forward.

There is no actual malfeasance here, as far as I can tell, but definitely what appears to be a terminal case of guntguarding.

Please tell me if anything in this analysis is wrong and I will correct it as soon as I can as there are a lot of moving parts in here and I want to be sure everything is nailed down tightly.

 

[Ethan Ralphs Micro Penis]

Just noticed a lot of Dame's videos about Ralph are gone. Probably have been for a bit. I swear he had at least one dedicated to Ralph, the child bride, and himself seeing the light on why people were laughing.

 

[High Tea]

It's funny you should mention that, because when I was looking into the transactions to try to understand the LBRY blockchain, I did see what I believe to be evidence of exactly this.

Specifically, here is what appears to be Odysee/LBRY staff donating 2000 LBC (and another separate transaction of 100 LBC not pictured) to Ethan using the wallet bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf:

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https://explorer.lbry.com/tx/56757f...Nngod7uKhU#bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU

(the bottom transaction where the wallet is sending coin back to itself seems to be how the LBRY blockchain handles change, but I'm far from a blockchain expert so maybe @CrunkLord420 can weigh in)

This 2000 LBC was sent to a wallet associated with @theralphretort on Odysee, bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU, and was then sent forward to the bYwaDEmBruqupqxoWYi7KkUV7iUReoFNr2 wallet Ethan currently uses. Here is the transaction showing that bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU is associated with Ethan's Odysee account:

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LBRY Block Explorer • Claim • @theralphretort

Here is the transaction sending forward the 2000 LBC plus anything else lying around in that wallet to the wallet we know to be Ethan's (the full image is too large to post on this site due to image size limits):

View attachment 1998973

LBRY Block Explorer • Transaction

And here is Ethan's known wallet showing the transaction came in and he has the 2000 LBC originating from bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf:

View attachment 1998971

We can see that the source of the 2000 LBC is from LBRY staff because staffer Tom Zarebcyan used this wallet address, bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf, in sample code he wrote last year and posted on LBRY's official support forum:

View attachment 1998970

https://forum.lbry.tech/t/how-to-sign-in-and-upload-video-using-the-lbry-sdk/312/2 (archive)

This address is also listed as the #166th wealthiest wallet on the blockchain:

View attachment 1998967

https://explorer.lbry.com/stats?_ga=2.130205964.220125991.1590503633-15831098.1590503633 (archive)

Due to the huge amount of transactions it has processed, it is likely an official institutional LBRY/Odysee account of some sort, likely shared among staff, so I am not accusing Zarebcyan of personally associating with Ethan since I don't have any reason to believe that's the case. This address is definitely some sort of official dummy/test account that has seemingly been used to contribute several hundred USD worth of LBC to Ethan, however, and we should keep an eye on it moving forward.

There is no actual malfeasance here, as far as I can tell, but definitely what appears to be a terminal case of guntguarding.

Please tell me if anything in this analysis is wrong and I will correct it as soon as I can as there are a lot of moving parts in here and I want to be sure everything is nailed down tightly.

They paid to be on his show or to get him on the platform? Do they think Ralph has a lot of clout? He brings doom to platforms. Please say not yet another decent working site is going to turn to mush.

 

[PhoBingas]

They paid to be on his show or to get him on the platform? Do they think Ralph has a lot of clout? He brings doom to platforms. Please say not yet another decent working site is going to turn to mush.

Well, Ralph had a hand in the youtube ad-pocalypse, he did a good job of gutting dlive as a platform, and he pretty much single-handedly put two thumbs into the back of Stream.me's head. If Odysee are already licking the grease, I give it until 2022 until the whole site and their crypto goes tits up.

 

[Sriracha]

Holy shit @Haru Okumura nicely done.

Is there any possible way for us to learn if they are the ones specifically boosting Ralph? At first I thought that they were testing the algorithm with the support system, but if they are sending him crypto then it is more likely he contacted them and promised to bring a viewer base.

 

[Boku no Kachi]

I think the 43k showing for that video might be a bug. I used the lbry block explorer to find his wallet and it's only received 3800 LBC. You can confirm it's his wallet by looking at all transactions where small amounts of LBC were sent from this wallet to publish the killstream videos. If you click on any of those transactions and then click the "view" link on the output it will take you to the claim for the video.

It's not a bug. It was a huge support that is already withdrawn, hence the effective amount being much lower now.
Since it's a support the LBC doesn't get actually transferred to someone else's wallet, so you have the ability to withdraw.
You can check every support the claim received here: https://chainquery.lbry.com/api/sql... = '58dfa26324770db3f186d0f44d5a086b763639c7'
From there you can trace the wallet: https://explorer.lbry.com/tx/264ba7a35739d2ed2a2705d32e9e221587e744455d275a15933cd26f07853d01
which seems to be that one: https://explorer.lbry.com/address/bZkaoYmqPYVxQsrLSQk1oK4RySp2DGXmre
After some digging through the transactions, I came to the conclusion that this wallet is probably owned by this channel: https://lbry.tv/@AlexandreMarcotte777:0

 

[Cow Poly]

Happy Monday my dudes.... found this little gem. (from the ass't managers office in the based department.....)

Edit: imagine aquiring/investing/buying crypto associated with Gunt-licking

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

They paid to be on his show or to get him on the platform? Do they think Ralph has a lot of clout? He brings doom to platforms. Please say not yet another decent working site is going to turn to mush.

Ryan Dawson was talking about eventually getting Ethan Ralph on the platform he is funding the creation of. Dear god the Gunt will be the downfall of it

 

[PhoBingas]

Ryan Dawson was talking about eventually getting Ethan Ralph on the platform he is funding the creation of. Dear god the Gunt will be the downfall of it

Everyone jokes about Soygon killing everything he touches but the same can be said about Ralph. Say what you will of the stepfather, he's never dox'd his supporters out of spite, nor has he licked shit off his thumb. He has been known to take a toot or two of the old Bolivian nasal decongestant, and if that's the worst you can say about the guy, who is really "worse"?

 

[MeltyTW]

cheers