Business Pirate Site Blocking Demands Intensify as U.S. Lawmakers Get Fmovies Walkthrough

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December 14, 2023 by Ernesto Van der Sar

Lawmakers saw a live demonstration of popular pirate movie streaming site Fmovies at a House Subcommittee Hearing yesterday. The walkthrough served as an introduction to renewed calls for site-blocking measures, which are gaining traction. U.S. Representative Ted Lieu, who swiftly loaded Fmovies on his phone, urged ISPs to block the blatant pirate site, right now.

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For a long time, pirate site blocking was considered a topic most U.S. politicians would rather avoid.

This stance was a remnant of the SOPA defeat, which drove copyright holders to focus on blocking efforts in other countries instead, and not without success.

Those challenging times are now more than a decade old, and momentum is shifting. After more than forty countries around the world instituted site-blocking measures, including in Canada, U.S. lawmakers may be more receptive to revisiting this topic.

House Committee Hearing on Piracy​

Yesterday, the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet held a hearing on Digital Copyright Piracy. Specifically, lawmakers were interested to learn about the scope of the problem and the solutions available today.

The representatives heard testimony from four witnesses. Rightsholders were represented by MPA’s Karyn Temple, UFC’s Riché McKnight, and award-winning producer Richard Gladstein. On the other side, CCIA’s Matthew Schruers defended the interests of Internet services.

From the start, it was clear that lawmakers see piracy as a serious problem that requires solutions. U.S. Representative and committee chairman, Darrell Issa, started the hearing by presenting an overview of today’s challenges, from a global perspective.

Pirates are ‘Hosted’ on Russian Military Bases​

The committee chairman notes that piracy has evolved from back-alley sales of DVDs to international criminal operations. He specifically mentioned the Vietnamese-operated streaming site Fmovies, while Russian military bases also play a role.

“Many of these pirate websites like Fmovies are hosted on servers that exist outside the United States, currently outside our ability to take them down. This creates unique judicial challenges for enforcement against widespread piracy on such websites.

“In some cases, these websites are even hosted within foreign governments, like the Russian government on military bases, and other enemies of the United States,” Rep. Issa adds.

The Russian reference is interesting as the country has some of the most strict anti-piracy laws in the world today. Throughout the hearing, there was no further mention of the Russian military bases, but the comment may refer to optical disc piracy that took place nearly 30 years ago.

Fmovies, on the other hand, remained front and center at the House hearing.

Lawmakers get Fmovies Walkthrough​

With over 160 million monthly visits, Fmovies is one of the most notorious pirate streaming sites. The portal recently rebranded to Fmoviesz but the modus operandi remains the same; people can watch whatever they want, whenever they like, without paying a dime.

MPA’s Senior Executive Vice President, Karyn Temple, illustrated the problem by giving a live demonstration of the website at the hearing.

“Anyone can simply type the Fmovies URL into their favorite browser today and an extremely professional and legitimate-looking site pops up. You can literally scroll through thousands of movies and television shows including this year’s Blockbusters and even movies that have not yet hit theaters.

“You’ll see all of our top-rated Blockbusters and popular films. Here you see coming up Wonka, which won’t be out in the United States theaters until this Friday,” Temple said while browsing through the site.

Fmoviesz Demonstration


Temple points out that most of the site’s visitors come from the United States. The MPA tried to take action against the site and encouraged the U.S. Department of Justice to help out but, since Fmovies’ operators are in Vietnam and its servers are in Bulgaria, options are limited.

‘U.S. Needs Pirate Site Blocking’​

Several MPA representatives visited Vietnam earlier this year but that hasn’t resulted in concrete enforcement actions either. This means that blocking the site through ISPs, as many other countries do, is one of the only viable options at the moment.

“If we had site blocking in the United States, as we do in the 16 other countries where versions of this site have been blocked already, then this piracy site’s U.S. traffic would have plummeted, protecting us consumers and the US creative sector, while removing the financial incentives for piracy,” Temple said.

“It’s beyond time for Congress to revisit no-fault injunctive relief to combat blatant forms of piracy.”

Why Are ISPs Not Blocking Fmovies Today?​

The call for site blocking is supported by other creative industry witnesses, who all describe it as an effective anti-piracy tool. CCIA President Matthew Schruers, whose organization represents several Internet services, was the hearing’s sole dissenting voice in respect of blocking.

“The blunt instrument of architectural regulation is particularly inappropriate for policing subject matter like copyright,” Schruers informed the committee.

“There exists a long history of site-blocking injunctions leading to overreach. This includes examples of overblocking restricting access to thousands of websites, without evidence or process. It is simply not possible to craft a uniquely American, speech-protecting site-blocking regime.”

Schruers stressed that the availability of legal content remains the key option to deter piracy, while noting the availability of less-invasive enforcement avenues that can be explored.

These concerns didn’t immediately convince all lawmakers and U.S. Representative Ted Lieu was particularly vocal. After browsing the Fmovies site on his phone during the hearing, he asked CCIA’s President why ISPs don’t block the site right now.

“I just went on my phone and went on Fmovies and it’s still up. And I can watch Willy Wonka for free without paying for it. Why don’t the online service providers block it right now, like today?” Lieu asked.

“This is such an unreasonable case it is so clearly online piracy copyright infringement and you don’t want your organization and your members to be defending something so blatantly unlawful and unreasonable. So I just ask your members to block that site today.”

‘Block Fmovies Today’


Mr. Schruers highlighted that the broadband access providers who can block the site aren’t here today and again stressed that legal availability is important and that less-invasive anti-piracy options are available. That didn’t convince Rep. Lieu, however, who requested the ISPs to be present at a future hearing.

“I ask the Chair of this Committee to call in a hearing with the witness that represents the members that could block this site and block it now,” Lieu said.

SOPA Scars and Instant Takedowns​

Committee Chairman Darrell Issa agreed to invite the ISPs directly for a future hearing, so they can explain their position. Meanwhile, it also became clear that the tensions of the SOPA debates more than ten years ago, have left permanent scars.

“I hope we don’t get into another tumultuous, dysfunctional technical fight as we did twelve years ago,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren noted.

The copyright representatives made repeated callbacks to the previous attempt to establish an American site-blocking regime. At the time, there were massive public protests and a broad revolt by Internet companies who feared overblocking and other negative consequences.

These concerns were real at the time but now that site blocking has been rolled out in dozens of countries around the world, they should be reconsidered.

“None of the hyperbolic predictions about the effects of site blocking have come true. Examples of overblocking of non-infringing content, stifling free expression, or deprivation of due process have been rare to the point of non-existence,” MPA’s Temple said.

Mr. Schruers countered by pointing out that there have been overblocking incidents, reminding lawmakers that Spotify was inadvertently blocked in the House of Representatives ten years ago.

All in all, however, the Committee made it clear that something must be done.

Chairman Darrell Issa ended the hearing by mentioning that the import of copyrighted and trademarked goods can be easily stopped by U.S. customs, suggesting that the same should apply to the ‘import’ of pirated goods online through sites such as Fmovies.

“For what’s possible in the tangible world, we want to find a solution in the Internet world. We will not quit under this committee until we do so,” Issa concluded.
 
I'd like to thank these people for making me aware of another site to pirate shit from. It will be a fine addition to my collection.

And I'm relatively sure that blocking websites per ISP level is illegal. *gestures broadly at this entire site*
The Redditors got you covered:

Fmovies or HiMovies gets the job done for me, and have surprisingly gone unmolested by MAFIAA and the US Congress for years. But like others have said, the trouble is finding anything worth watching. I suppose you could use the recommendations thread in Multimedia.
 
and not without success.
Using double negatives is a sign of being a useless nigger
“There exists a long history of site-blocking injunctions leading to overreach. This includes examples of overblocking restricting access to thousands of websites, without evidence or process. It is simply not possible to craft a uniquely American, speech-protecting site-blocking regime.”
Unless you are the Internet's Nigger, Joshua Connor Moon in which case you are the worst thing to ever exist according to Matthew Prince
 
Fmovie though has every movie i could ever need for free in higher quality then what i would get paying for 50 different streaming services
Yeah, it's funny how nobody was testifying that this is why so many Americans turn to piracy. The correct answer from government should be to tell them to kick rocks until they can actually provide value for consumers.
 
I just get the DVD's if it's a shitty movie. It's 5 bucks in the bargain bin. There's little reason for me to pirate film when it's so cheap
My Walmart's $5 movie bin hasn't had anything good in it for years and just about all of the places that used to carry used DVDs purged their sections and the few that still have them have garbage selections and don't buy used DVDs from people (expecting instead people to just donate to their stores their unused stuff).

Which is bad for me, as I used to have the luxury of blind buying shit and selling it back to one of the mom and pop stores if it was shitty. Nowadays, unless it's a film I end up liking I basically have to download a film to see if it's worth the money tracking down a physical copy of.
 
My Walmart's $5 movie bin hasn't had anything good in it for years and just about all of the places that used to carry used DVDs purged their sections and the few that still have them have garbage selections and don't buy used DVDs from people (expecting instead people to just donate to their stores their unused stuff).

Which is bad for me, as I used to have the luxury of blind buying shit and selling it back to one of the mom and pop stores if it was shitty. Nowadays, unless it's a film I end up liking I basically have to download a film to see if it's worth the money tracking down a physical copy of.
Entertainmarts in my experience still have good selections. Amazon too. Really it just depends on what you want
 
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>flood the entire developed world with the junk food equivalent of entertainment for free in your pocket at all times as a transmission vector for ads, propaganda and data harvesting
>get upset that nobody wants to pay money to watch your propaganda

Sorry bud, this is the Faustian bargain you made.

I'm a fucking luddite when it comes to that streaming/content aggregation/social media, and even I don't get bored enough to pirate media anymore. There's just no shortage of entertainment to warrant it. I effectively see any movie I want in theaters for free for reasons, and most of the time I choose to stay home and watch shit on youtube.

Hell, I definitely haven't had a seedbox for 10+ years, officer, but hypothetically if I did, I don't think I'd've used it for anything but obscure audiobooks in the last 2-3, even less so now that I can just have AI Joshua Graham or Dagoth Ur read me anything I want. Why the fuck would anyone pirate anything anymore when we're inundated with entertainment at any turn?

You commodified our attention and now you're getting outbid in the free market; don't blame piracy for your inability to complete with your own golems.
 
Yeah, it's funny how nobody was testifying that this is why so many Americans turn to piracy. The correct answer from government should be to tell them to kick rocks until they can actually provide value for consumers.
Meanwhile politicians like Chrystia Freeland in Canada tell people to cut back on Netflix due to Grocery prices being high.
 
they think this will make people pay for their shitty movies. eventually people will just stop watching their shitty movies

when my file server blew up its vrms and i was rebuilding it i had to decide if i was gonna bother setting up all my piracy automation all over again. I couldn't be bothered when I realized I couldn't remember the last movie or tv show i watched.

Recently a friend offered to giove me access to his disney service and i politely declined. There's nothing to watch / they should be paying me to watch.
 
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That’s just the way this goes. If it was up to movie studios, personal video recording devices would have been outlawed in the 1980s. It’s less about the war on piracy and more about the war on ownership. If you own nothing, then companies can sell you what basically amounts to a subscription fee, in perpetuity, for the rest of your life. Missed seeing your favorite episode of The Simpsons? Here’s a collection of episodes on VHS for $40. VCR broke? Here’s the same collection on DVD. And now Blu-ray. And now UHD 4K Blu-ray. Please buy it again. Please buy it over, and over, and over. Don’t archive it yourself. Don’t make your own recordings. Buy ours! Give US money!

And fewer and fewer companies are pretending this isn’t just a subscription service now, as you have a version of Adobe Photoshop that you subscribe to. Don’t have the multiple hundreds of dollars to buy Photoshop? Well, for $20 a month, now ANYONE can have Photoshop through Adobe Creative Cloud! And it’s totally structured like a mobile phone bill, too – you get locked in to a yearly contract, and after the first year, that $20 goes up to $30. If you’re a career artist, paying for Photoshop for 20 years will have cost you a total of over $7000.
 
That’s just the way this goes. If it was up to movie studios, personal video recording devices would have been outlawed in the 1980s. It’s less about the war on piracy and more about the war on ownership. If you own nothing, then companies can sell you what basically amounts to a subscription fee, in perpetuity, for the rest of your life. Missed seeing your favorite episode of The Simpsons? Here’s a collection of episodes on VHS for $40. VCR broke? Here’s the same collection on DVD. And now Blu-ray. And now UHD 4K Blu-ray. Please buy it again. Please buy it over, and over, and over. Don’t archive it yourself. Don’t make your own recordings. Buy ours! Give US money!

Except we're now heading to a world where you can't buy episodes anymore. Since the mid-2010s The Simpsons and Family Guy don't have physical episodes, it's only "buy digitally" which is "you can stream it whenever without a subscription"...and that's if they still carry it. Already, we're seeing Sony removing Discovery films that users paid for due to the contracts with Discovery changing (as their merger with WarnerMedia made them a much larger company).

Netflix is notorious for purging content (even back when Netflix was pretty good) and that's not counting how episodes or movies are censored or blackholed when it comes to "problematic" content.

If you haven't built up a physical media collection since the early 2000s, or lack the physical space, or the money, the solution is obvious--what platform can give you everything, ALL the movies, ALL the TV shows, ALL the rare stuff, and ONLY what you want? Yar har har!
 
The Redditors got you covered:

Fmovies or HiMovies gets the job done for me, and have surprisingly gone unmolested by MAFIAA and the US Congress for years. But like others have said, the trouble is finding anything worth watching. I suppose you could use the recommendations thread in Multimedia.
I love how piracy is one of those rare issues where soyboys and based people can agree on

Netflix is notorious for purging content (even back when Netflix was pretty good) and that's not counting how episodes or movies are censored or blackholed when it comes to "problematic" content.
You will own nothing and you will be happy. Or else.
Even now, legally, if you look at the ToS/EULA of any entertainment you buy, you don't actually own what you bought, even if you buy a physical disc. Legally you've bought a license to the media, and you don't own the actual thing you bought, which is why it's illegal to make backups.
Speaking of the "problematic" content, I remember some great episodes of 30 Rock and Community were purged because they were "offensive." Community's was especially egregious because it was one of the best episodes of the entire series, the first Dungeons & Dragons episode with Fat Neil.
 
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