Piss drinking general - Water purification and it's consequences

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In the event of a societal collapse I do not want to end up drinking my piss like Bear Grylls if at all possible. Does anybody have recommendations for purifying water? I thought about those tablets you can buy but hat seems like a limited resource I'd have at best. Best I can think of is boiling water, but I live in a wet climate and starting a fire from scratch could be prohibitive.
 
One of these. It can filter a maximum of 4,000 liters of water.
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I do not want to end up drinking my piss like Bear Grylls

Well shit, memories are returning.

The OG piss-drinker:

(Video on Youtube)


And a video by one of former "redactors" of Krzysztof Kononowicz, Mexicano.


But back on topic; There also an cheaper method by using paper/bandage, that is transferring water to something like cup or pot and then boil it. It provides some assurance that you will not be poisoned, but not for 100%. But overall, without equipment, just don't drink piss.
 
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One of these. It can filter a maximum of 4,000 liters of water.
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I would still be weary of drinking right out of a pond with these; I know it says it'll filter out bacteria and such, but that honestly sounds like a surefire way to get complacent and accidentally start drinking contaminated water.

OP, boiling water really isn't much of a choice as far as I know. Most filters will only filter out larger particulates. There aren't that many that will filter out viruses and smaller bacteria.
Even for the ones that do I'd still recommend boiling it as an extra precaution. Puking out my stomach then dying from dehydration is certainly not the way I'd like to go personally.

Edit: forgot about those water purification tablets too, They might work, and they say they kill viruses, but Im not that familiar with them.
 
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Don't drink the pee, don't be that guy.

Problem with the Lifestraw is that you can't process water in bulk, you can only drink straight from the water source. Get something like a Sawyer Mini at the very least. You can fill up a container with dirty water, then run it through the Sawyer into another container and then use it for cooking or whatever.
 
There's kits for the Sawyer where it's gravity fed so you have a reservoir of dirty water a few feet above the filter and you just use gravity. Much nicer than having to force it through. It gets exhausting after the first liter or two.
I have used all of the above purifying tool in the back country. The lifestraw or sawyer I think has the cleanest and best tasting output.
 
I remember those when they were brand new. They were showing emaciated african children slurping up tasty mud puddles. How long do they keep?

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Apparently you have to store it in salt water but it's not immediately obvious to me how you would accomplish this.
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I personally use a Sawyer Mini for water purification but it's mostly geared toward hiking and camping, not filtering large amounts of water. They make a larger model though. This one is convenient because you can fill a water bottle with dirty water, attach the filter directly to the bottle, then squeeze clean water out of the bottle into your water bladder, clean bottle, or mouth. You don't have to store them in any special way and to clean them you just take an included syringe and force clean water 'backwards' through the filter to backflush all the gunk out of the filter. Allegedly if you keep it clean it's good for 100,000 gallons of water but I don't know how true that is.
 
I agree on the Sawyer filter being the superior option. It's really nice being able to get multiple bags, fill them all up at once from your water source and filter at your leisure when back at camp. Also you can take 10 minutes and load up whatever bladders or bottles you have on you.
Two is one and one is none though so it's worth keeping docon tabs somewhere in your kit as well.
 
I've seen that approach recommended if you're super careful or you're getting water from really nasty (stagnant) sources. Sawyer to initially filter, then follow up with an iodine tablet or some other secondary measure to make sure you won't be shitting yourself for the next couple days. In my opinion it's kind of overkill for most situations but in the spirit of the board if you're aiming for true self-sufficiency it wouldn't be a bad idea to have both options available.

Also most things a Sawyer or a similar filter wouldn't filter out would probably be killed by boiling the water if you didn't want to have to deal with tablets as a secondary step.
 
Two is one and one is none though so it's worth keeping docon tabs somewhere in your kit as well.
That's how my pack is set up, got a Sawyer, a couple of Platypus 2L bladders, and as a backup some Aquatabs.

If you're really paranoid can add a few drops of bleach after filtering. As per the EPA:
Volume of WaterAmount of 6% Bleach to Add*Amount of 8.25% Bleach to Add*
1 quart/liter2 drops2 drops
1 gallon8 drops6 drops
2 gallons16 drops (1/4 tsp)12 drops (1/8 teaspoon)
4 gallons1/3 teaspoon1/4 teaspoon
8 gallons2/3 teaspoon1/2 teaspoon
 
Apparently you have to store it in salt water but it's not immediately obvious to me how you would accomplish this.
Tupperware container or Gatorade bottle full of saline nigga. It should be noted that lifestraws are only meant to be used in places like streams or rivers for unfiltered water. Do not use them in stagnant water. If you need some water for on the go, you could always fill a bottle or container with water that's moving from a place like a stream or river.

With that being said, I've used lifestraws in Appalachian rivers while camping and the water tastes truly amazing. Not to be a waterfag, but there's nothing better than some lifestraw river water.

It may take a few minutes to learn how to use the straw, but once you get it down it's as easy as breathing. I will Shill for LIFESTRAW ™️ until the day I die.
 
The Sawyers work fine if you're looking for 8oz of water in like the next 30 minutes. If you need gallons of water within the hour you need to buy a pump operated filter. I went on a gnarly hike once, drank most of my water on the way up, and my faggot ass had to spend an HOUR squeezing water through my Sawyer to fill up my bottles for the way back. Don't be like me just buy the damn pump system. MSR is a reputable enough brand, I'd go with them

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I cant remember who said it or where..but t was once said that 'people who drink there own urine..often live to regret it' (or something like that)


For water purification (in regards to pathogens) i have a few options in my bag..
  • 2% Tincture of Iodine - Used at roughly 5 drops per quart or Liter for about 30min. The colder or more cloudy the water the longer you may need to leave it and can add up to 10 drops
  • Water purification tablets - Micropur Forte
  • 10% Providone Iodine but at about 8 drops to a quart. Its in my fist aid kit so extra use points
  • Boiling - obviously
Always best to filter the water with a mechanic filter first though, even if its through a cloth or something to remove the larger crap in the water.

You can also :
  • Use Chlorine Bleach (Sodium Hypochlorite) 5.25 and 6% - See prior posts, but there is some conjecture that it may not work against Giardia Lambia or Cryptosporidium
  • Pasteurize your water to make it safe to drink
  • Distillation
  • UV radiation from the sun (SODIS) - manly useful against the bugs that cause diarrhea
 
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I would still be weary of drinking right out of a pond with these; I know it says it'll filter out bacteria and such, but that honestly sounds like a surefire way to get complacent and accidentally start drinking contaminated water.

OP, boiling water really isn't much of a choice as far as I know. Most filters will only filter out larger particulates. There aren't that many that will filter out viruses and smaller bacteria.
Even for the ones that do I'd still recommend boiling it as an extra precaution. Puking out my stomach then dying from dehydration is certainly not the way I'd like to go personally.

Edit: forgot about those water purification tablets too, They might work, and they say they kill viruses, but Im not that familiar with them.
Very solid advice. Boiling is a guarantee to kill pathogens, but distillation removes just about everything.
 
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