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if we ignore where this dude lived, running these services is completely and utterly pointless. you can't make a living from them, all you're doing is painting a massive target on your back. when you offer things publicly, genuinely publicly (filehosting, email etc) it's not a matter of if CSAM gets uploaded, it's WHEN. and even if you have the stomach to verify and remove it.... what's the point?

you're not some kind of internet robin hood. you're just a retard enabling pedophiles. GG you got raided, what the fuck did you think was going to happen?

Yeah, you’re choosing life on the hard mode even if you don’t care about the absolute scum that are going to use your servers for evil purposes.
 
If your entire argument for why running anonymous services is that they don't make money and bad actors will abuse them, then the government thanks you for supporting their future in absolute citizen control. If there is something good, the scum of the world will always try to abuse it. Don't be the retard who advocates for less individualism simply because there is evil in the world. Grow up.
 
if we ignore where this dude lived, running these services is completely and utterly pointless. you can't make a living from them, all you're doing is painting a massive target on your back. when you offer things publicly, genuinely publicly (filehosting, email etc) it's not a matter of if CSAM gets uploaded, it's WHEN. and even if you have the stomach to verify and remove it.... what's the point?

you're not some kind of internet robin hood. you're just a retard enabling pedophiles. GG you got raided, what the fuck did you think was going to happen?
> just gib up, don't do anything nice because of retards will ruin it. you are a loser for trying something

I'm not talking about Minecraft, I sincerely mean this: KYS IRL! How did you even sign up on this website with this defeatist mindset?
 
if we ignore where this dude lived, running these services is completely and utterly pointless. you can't make a living from them, all you're doing is painting a massive target on your back. when you offer things publicly, genuinely publicly (filehosting, email etc) it's not a matter of if CSAM gets uploaded, it's WHEN. and even if you have the stomach to verify and remove it.... what's the point?

you're not some kind of internet robin hood. you're just a retard enabling pedophiles. GG you got raided, what the fuck did you think was going to happen?
This is a very under-cooked take. I recommend you read it over and come to your senses, since you post in the OSS thread and are, I assume, a privacy conscious person. Dealing with pedophiles (or any bad actor in general) is an immutable drawback that comes with hosting any public service, and has been for millennia, and this place is no different.

I can only assume the reason why you called the act of hosting these services "completely and utterly pointless" is because of the fact that this was just some random guy with 0 experience, who most likely didn't contact any lawyer or legal help throughout the process and just shot himself in the foot by running it like that, on some cheap ass Contabo VPS. I kinda get your point there. I'm actually pretty skeptical of the whole "seizure" story.

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There are some peculiar details about this service. At its launch, it was hosted using a ColoCrossing VPS (AS36352), at IP 192.210.170.144 (Buffalo, NY), which he bought through a reseller, Virmach (AS25693) [source 1 (A), source 2 (A)]. This was the case until July 5th, 2022, where it was relocated (A) to Contabo (AS51167), at IP 173.249.47.55 (Lauterbourg, Grand Est, France), which is a city located right on the border with Germany. It then changed again around June 21st 2025. No change in hoster or location, only in IP address, 161.97.173.73, which lasted until the closure of the service. Another IP address I found for the service is from a Shodan search result which gives back the IP 75.119.132.119, still with the same service and location as the last 2 (Wed, 15 Apr 2026 16:19:36 GMT).

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It is very safe to assume he did not personally host any of his mail servers at his personal residence, since he has talked about server migration on his Twitter [A] multiple times and complained about his VPS hosters in the past.

The guy has yet to provide any actual solid evidence of any seizure or police warrant. As far as I could tell, there have been no major changes made to his NS records (common for federal seizure of domains) or MX or any other record. It's been radio silence since that post, if we exclude the fact that he has very very recently updated his page to do the following things:
His removal of past services from his main website could be seen as him doing some "spring cleaning", but also him trying to sweep his shit up before the feds add more "hate speech" charges (hint: "gobackto.africa")

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The guy got unlucky and signed up [A] to Twitter before 2023, which means that the e-mail address linked to his account got leaked too.
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email: fleback.contact@gmail.com
username: soupDMC
name: Soup!!!
created: Thu May 11 23:28:35 +0000 2017
I don't care enough to do a full phonebook, the data is there however.

I don't know if the guy used the "they seized my shit" card as an excuse to ditch this weight off his back or something, but if it isn't an excuse, he should provide at least some proof about the seizure of his server. His statement is very cryptic. As far as the person itself, he's just your average german anime-obsessed /pol/tard from 4cuck.
 
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Don't expect privacy when the domain is child.pizza. Basically begging to get seized.
Not going to defend having edgelord domains like that, but I can almost guarantee that's not what got him raided. Germany doesn't give a shit about children. They are notorious for handing out featherweight sentences for crimes against children that are outright insulting to the victims. Think of the worst shit you can come up with being punished by two years on probation.
 
Not going to defend having edgelord domains like that, but I can almost guarantee that's not what got him raided. Germany doesn't give a shit about children. They are notorious for handing out featherweight sentences for crimes against children that are outright insulting to the victims. Think of the worst shit you can come up with being punished by two years on probation.
Not only the child.pizza domain but also hateje.ws and genocide.fun in Germany. No clue if was for the domains or not but if is not it allows for a great cover up of the shut down.
 
This is a very under-cooked take. I recommend you read it over and come to your senses, since you post in the OSS thread and are, I assume, a privacy conscious person. Dealing with pedophiles (or any bad actor in general) is an immutable drawback that comes with hosting any public service, and has been for millennia, and this place is no different.

I can only assume the fact that you called the act of hosting these services "completely and utterly pointless" is the fact that this was just some random guy with 0 experience, who most likely didn't contact any lawyer or legal help throughout the process and just shot himself in the foot by running it like that, on some cheap ass Contabo VPS. I kinda get your point there. I'm actually pretty skeptical of the whole "seizure" story.
I'm not skeptical of the seizure at all, it doesn't surprise me. I'm also not saying that nobody should try it either (it's actually in the part you quoted) - I'm saying that even if you do all the work, pay for everything and then do the real dirty stuff that there really isn't much point in hosting these kinds of things.

Some people can choose to interpret that with a take like "don't even bother trying then", despite me literally telling people to try it and that's fine. I do have strong beliefs in privacy and security and like i mentioned before, I ran a few of these and I'm here now saying that it was not worth hosting this kind of stuff and being forced to vet and delete illegal material. It's not an anti-privacy take, it's just common sense - everyone wants to use something privacy focused but nobody wants to be the guy where the buck stops.
There's a handful of people who choose to die on that hill, some examples that come to mind are vincent at cock.li and null and both of those had to move to eastern europe for a decade give or take. Catbox is the other example but I don't know who runs it. Nulls fortune has only turned around in the last year and it can still be stripped away at any moment, catbox had their funding rugpulled only a year ago and are still not meeting their infrastructure costs and AFAIK vincent is still in romania*. All three comply with court orders by the way, I'm sure you know that but putting it here for those that think elite tier opsec is some kind of failsafe. It isn't, the only thing you have in your favor is that if you act on every single report you receive then you shouldn't have many serious issues. Proton is probably the first company that'll come to mind for 99% of people when the word privacy is mentioned but the next thing you'll nearly always here is about that time they complied with a court order and some french protestor got arrested. This isn't abnormal, it's every day.

is the fact that this was just some random guy with 0 experience, who most likely didn't contact any lawyer or legal help
Sort of but also not really? it's just another another downside to running this. Obviously you should if you can but now you're expected to pay for the service, maintain it, keep it legal, delete illegal material and also pay for your own legal defense .....for what? Nobody has yet given any reason.

This guy may have the added obstacle of being a retard but that doesn't detract from my position that putting yourself in that situation to begin with is pointless. My initial post was a bit rushed, especially the "enabling pedophiles" part and I do kind of regret not clarifying it more. Then again when a domain used is cheese.pizza maybe we can just add 2+2 and agree 4 is a reasonable guess.

Here's some additional context for the "enabling" part i mentioned. Many many years ago I woke up to an email from a german (ironic) researcher who had found tens of links to my filehost posted on a forum on TOR. He told me there was screenshots in the thread and explained that it was images and videos of an infant being raped. The file was a passworded zip and he'd sent me the password. I sat and looked at the zip for probably 2 or 3 minutes and i couldn't bring myself to open it. I enabled access logs and saw the file was being downloaded 5-10 times a second. I checked and saw that was a little under 13,000 archives in total, the overwhelming majority would be fine but something clicked and I realised that it's completely unwinnable and that if i wanted to continue, i'd have to accept the fact that it was going to exist in some capacity whether I liked it or not and that just wasn't acceptable to me. Everything was torn down and deleted before breakfast.
I know for a fact there's a bunch of people with more mettle than me here, I bet they'd last longer and overcome things i couldn't. They should try it.

*my understanding for moving abroad was to be able to afford to eat and pay rent while running these rather than running it under a different jurisdiction btw.
 
Yeah I've visited Germany a couple of times and their internet is unusable, literally worse than north Korea or the great firewall of China. Everything is censored there.
While this country sucks and should be burned to the ground, alot of those restrictions are EU dictated.
And yes, internet is still shit here, it is "Neuland" after all.
 
While this country sucks and should be burned to the ground, alot of those restrictions are EU dictated.
And yes, internet is still shit here, it is "Neuland" after all.
What country dictates most of the EU laws and imposes them onto other countries?
 
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I'm reverting back to my main default gmail address since shitposter emails are literally a bunch of pajeet sites that can't stay up.

Cock.li is MIA, Pissmail.com is dead and Fedora.email was well on its way to die by not letting anyone create new email accounts, hell the website isn't even reachable RN. DEAD TOO probably.

Yeah I think I'm taking the right decision in case I need to get a password reset. Please Null, don't be a nigger and don't let kiwifarms get breached again. I would get a burner, but everything is either paid, or free but the caveat is it's niggerhell spyware + give us your id/telly numbah/birth cert/etc crap. My gmail is atleast old enough that I didn't need to supply jack back then. So yeah Null don't be fucking retarded.
 
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I'm reverting back to my main default gmail address since shitposter emails are literally a bunch of pajeet sites that can't stay up.

Cock.li is MIA, Pissmail.com is dead and Fedora.email was well on its way to die by not letting anyone create new email accounts, hell the website isn't even reachable RN. DEAD TOO probably.

Yeah I think I'm taking the right decision in case I need to get a password reset. Please Null, don't be a nigger and don't let kiwifarms get breached again. I would get a burner, but everything is either paid, or free but the caveat is it's niggerhell spyware + give us your id/telly numbah/birth cert/etc crap. My gmail is atleast old enough that I didn't need to supply jack back then. So yeah Null don't be fucking retarded.
Cock.li seems to work on my machine?
 
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