Please approve my post on cwc's thread - I'll be good

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Should Waterman neck himself?

  • Yes

    Votes: 117 31.3%

  • No, he should do a flip instead

    Votes: 75 20.1%

  • No, he's got some shotgun mouthwash with his name on it

    Votes: 54 14.4%

  • Waterman will 9/11 eventually under Kengle's tutelage

    Votes: 128 34.2%
  • Total voters
    374
bump.

I'm patient. Take your time. I have quite a bit of, shall I say, "exhibits" as they call them in cartoon court-proceedings to support my arguments if you don't want to respond first to set the record straight for me.
 
Wow, really? I guess you're not that bad after all.

But — and I stress that I don't mean to antagonize by saying this — this right here is an example of cyber-bullying. You gave me what I wanted, but then used your admin priveliges to change my profile to publicly dox me, which I don't think I'm off to interpret that it's meant to embarrass me and put it on display to everyone by moving this thread to an open board. Cyber-bullying is generally defined as making efforts to attract negative attention to another user. Trolling, on the other hand, is about deliberately acting as a character and trying to provoke attention to oneself, which may be unproductive, but mostly harmless. Do you see what I mean? Cyber-bullying is especially unfair when someone is abusing power that the target doesn't have, like an administrator to a normal user in this situation. I can't edit your profile to have my way if I wanted to. It's unfair that you did that to me when we're not on even ground.

Do you see what I mean? I'd really rather have a more diplomatic relationship with you guys from here on out (and I realize I need to act civil on my end to earn that).

What I'm really trying to get at here is what happened to Christine (as she prefers to be called) with the Jessica Quin character is the most recent case of cyberbullying in a long, documented history of cyberbullying on this person, and I have reason to believe the character came from among your ranks, though I could be wrong. And I just thought... didn't we all get to a point that that's frowned upon? There's forum guidelines against trolling plans, so I thought that was discouraged. If it really was an entity from outside this forum, then I fully admit that's not anyone's fault here, but it's unfortunate this happened nonetheless (and probably cwc's own fault for falling for it, but that's getting into "blaming the victim" territory).
 
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William Elliot Waterman said:
I have reason to believe the character came from among your ranks, though I could be wrong.
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I would agree JQ prob has had at least one profile here, but that' s just because we're the largest entity for talking Chris. If people knew who she was, she would prob get harassed until she left because she isn't funny and attention whores. KF has a history of being a bee in the bonnet of unfunny attention whores. Ask Kengel.
 
All I got was someone from here PM'd me and said it was a couple users here and they outed themselves... somewhere. It's not proof, and I don't know how reliable that person is, but thanks for clarifying that you don't support what they did. For all I know, whoever that is, it might not be the real culprits and they're just trying to take credit from someone we can't pin down yet, or might never.

I want to re-iterate that I'm sincerely sorry for all past transgressions now. Anna and I (or at least I) are trying to work with Christine to get her to open her eyes and see what really just happened, but it's hard (because, cwc), and I think Jessica will come back if cwc allows her to. It looks like there's more to the endgame of whoever is behind it. In the very, very, VERY slim chance that Jessica's real (highly doubtful), um... I can't really think of a good way to end that sentence seriously. Another wallflower deal?
 
William Elliot Waterman said:
But — and I stress that I don't mean to antagonize by saying this — this right here is an example of cyber-bullying.
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How is this site not cyberbullying?

Cyberbullying is a term frequently thrown around by people who do not like the Kiwi Farms.

Cyberbullying is not a federal crime, but more importantly, cyberbullying is legally defined as bullying carried out online.

"Bullying" legally means intimidation or assault that prevents, or makes people fearful of, going to school.

Unless someone on this website is your classmate or teacher, they cannot ever technically 'cyberbully' you.
 
Isn't it a bit presumptuous that you and your cousin can do good by Chris when you have no training? If your goal is to help Chris, frankly his internet troubles are the least of his worries.

Perhaps you could donate money so he doesn't lose his house. If he is homeless with a delusional mother, internet bullshit is the least of his worries. Frankly, it seems more as though you are interested in getting back at perceived enemies than helping Chris move forward. From what I heard chris say he has forgiven. Help him with real shit not bullshit. You are only doing more damage by occupying his mind with this stuff.
 
William Elliot Waterman said:
All I got was someone from here PM'd me and said it was a couple users here and they outed themselves... somewhere. It's not proof, and I don't know how reliable that person is, but thanks for clarifying that you don't support what they did. For all I know, whoever that is, it might not be the real culprits and they're just trying to take credit from someone we can't pin down yet, or might never.

I want to re-iterate that I'm sincerely sorry for all past transgressions now. Anna and I (or at least I) are trying to work with Christine to get her to open her eyes and see what really just happened, but it's hard (because, cwc), and I think Jessica will come back if cwc allows her to. It looks like there's more to the endgame of whoever is behind it. In the very, very, VERY slim chance that Jessica's real (highly doubtful), um... I can't really think of a good way to end that sentence seriously. Another wallflower deal?
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What's your endgame?

yawning sneasel said:
Isn't it a bit presumptuous that you and your cousin can do good by Chris when you have no training? If your goal is to help Chris, frankly his internet troubles are the least of his worries.

Perhaps you could donate money so he doesn't lose his house. If he is homeless with a delusional mother, internet bullshit is the least of his worries. Frankly, it seems more as though you are interested in getting back at perceived enemies than helping Chris move forward. From what I heard chris say he has forgiven. Help him with real shit not bullshit. You are only doing more damage by occupying his mind with this stuff.
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I think people donating money is a huge part of the problem. We all know it's not going to the house, it's going to supporting Chris' delusions, just like everything else on the internet.
If these people truly want to help Chris, they should leave Chris alone entirely. We say rude and nasty stuff about Chris all the time, but the kindest thing anyone can do for him is encourage him to seek professional guidance.
 
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William Elliot Waterman said:
All I got was someone from here PM'd me and said it was a couple users here and they outed themselves... somewhere. It's not proof, and I don't know how reliable that person is, but thanks for clarifying that you don't support what they did. For all I know, whoever that is, it might not be the real culprits and they're just trying to take credit from someone we can't pin down yet, or might never.

I want to re-iterate that I'm sincerely sorry for all past transgressions now. Anna and I (or at least I) are trying to work with Christine to get her to open her eyes and see what really just happened, but it's hard (because, cwc), and I think Jessica will come back if cwc allows her to. It looks like there's more to the endgame of whoever is behind it. In the very, very, VERY slim chance that Jessica's real (highly doubtful), um... I can't really think of a good way to end that sentence seriously. Another wallflower deal?
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So are you gonna start calling kengle step dad or are you gonna just be all frowny in your room all day?
 
* Waterman will 9/11 eventually under Kengle's tutelage
 
William Elliot Waterman said:
What I'm really trying to get at here is what happened to Christine (as she prefers to be called) with the Jessica Quin character is the most recent case of cyberbullying in a long, documented history of cyberbullying on this person, and I have reason to believe the character came from among your ranks, though I could be wrong. And I just thought... didn't we all get to a point that that's frowned upon? There's forum guidelines against trolling plans, so I thought that was discouraged. If it really was an entity from outside this forum, then I fully admit that's not anyone's fault here, but it's unfortunate this happened nonetheless (and probably cwc's own fault for falling for it, but that's getting into "blaming the victim" territory).
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A lot of times I see you interacting with Chris via Facebook you tend to either go off tangent or state bluntly that it's not important and you don't give a shit.
There's no proof that any of us hacked into Jessica's Facebook and as you've said, it strictly says no trolling plans toward Chris.

If you want to help Chris so bad, teach him how to be a man so that he can finally attract women or give his family the funding they need to make ends meet.

Or if not and you prefer to waste your time arguing like a child, fuck off and don't come back.
 
here, fixed it for you guys

William Elliot Waterman said:
Wow, really? I guess you're not that bad after all.

But — and I stress that I don't mean to antagonize by saying this — this right here is an example of cyber-bullying. You gave me what I wanted, but then used your admin priveliges to change my profile to publicly dox me, which I don't think I'm off to interpret that it's meant to embarrass me and put it on display to everyone by moving this thread to an open board. Cyber-bullying is generally defined as making efforts to attract negative attention to another user. Trolling, on the other hand, is about deliberately acting as a character and trying to provoke attention to oneself, which may be unproductive, but mostly harmless. Do you see what I mean? Cyber-bullying is especially unfair when someone is abusing power that the target doesn't have, like an administrator to a normal user in this situation. I can't edit your profile to have my way if I wanted to. It's unfair that you did that to me when we're not on even ground.

Do you see what I mean? I'd really rather have a more diplomatic relationship with you guys from here on out (and I realize I need to act civil on my end to earn that).
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