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I can understand why they do, the new voice actors aren't very good compared to the old ones. While I do accept there is no hope for Veronca Taylor or anyone else voicing for the show anymore, I really don't like the new ones and wish they still had the old ones. This is because the new ones have pretty flat deliveries and haven't improved over the past 7 years whereas the old ones became alright-tier at around episode 20 and kept improving. Plus, James' voice actor was awesome, and so was Brock's. Because frying pans make best drying pans.Pigeon Crow said:Nope, they're still around. Just look on Facebook; they're still updating.
Why do they want the old voices so bad, though?
I really like James' new voice actor, he put his heart into his performance and it shows. I like the original better because he's more flamboyant, but I digressHimawari said:I grew to like all the new voices, except for Sara's Ash. I still can't stand it. Jimmy Zoppi's voice for Meowth is still a little grating too, and it would be great to have Maddie back to do him, but that's never ever going to happen......
I think the acting got better with Tom Wayland as voice director, especially the Pokémon's voices. Iris and Cilan's actors are actually amazing - I would have watched the dub just for them if I didn't find the BW series to be beyond boring. And Tom is just a super cool guy (who I happen to know personally... sort of. he probably just thinks of me as that weird chick from that one Pokemon fansite who pops up every so often to obsess over a relatively obscure show he worked on years ago) and he really knows what he's doing.
He kinda hates the role because of that, though; 4Kids kept demanding he be more flamboyant than he needed to be in the past. At least, that's what I heard.Mama Luigi said:I really like James' new voice actor, he put his heart into his performance and it shows. I like the original better because he's more flamboyant, but I digressHimawari said:I grew to like all the new voices, except for Sara's Ash. I still can't stand it. Jimmy Zoppi's voice for Meowth is still a little grating too, and it would be great to have Maddie back to do him, but that's never ever going to happen......
I think the acting got better with Tom Wayland as voice director, especially the Pokémon's voices. Iris and Cilan's actors are actually amazing - I would have watched the dub just for them if I didn't find the BW series to be beyond boring. And Tom is just a super cool guy (who I happen to know personally... sort of. he probably just thinks of me as that weird chick from that one Pokemon fansite who pops up every so often to obsess over a relatively obscure show he worked on years ago) and he really knows what he's doing.
Himawari said:Oh yeah, and of course there's this.
Last year the winner of the UK Pokemon Video Game Championships was stripped of his title for flinging shit in their hotel.
He went to the Smogon forums to gather support in his favor but no one cared.
Eric. At least, there was a part where 4Kids wanted him to be too flamboyant and it was like 'okay, this is beyond the normal comedy, is this *really* right?', from my understanding. So he wouldn't want to go back just to make his voice croak from doing too many squeals.Himawari said:Who hates the role of James, Eric or Jimmy?
I thought I heard once that Eric did the flamboyant acting of his own volition, but this is a fandom that has always been rife with people making shit up and claiming it as truth. (I knew someone back in like 1999 who swore up and down that he saw Pikachu's Vacation in Japanese and that Marill said "pikablu, pikablu!" when it spoke.) So who knows.
Both the pokemon anime and the digimon anime are good,the annoying thing is that most of the pokemon fanbase is just people that only complain about everything new that pokemon releases... new pokemon videogame? complain, new season for the pokemon anime? complain, they say that pokemon is becoming a ripoff of digimon... and the digimon fanbase is just the same, they say that digimon now sucks, that digimon is now a ripoff of pokemon, and that pokemon is now better... yep...
Nope, they're still around. Just look on Facebook; they're still updating.
Why do they want the old voices so bad, though?
I staff at a certain Pokemon fansite, and I've seen more than my fair share of minor/potential lolcows (and shuddercows) while trying to keep the site safe and sane. Unfortunately, I don't feel like I'm at liberty to discuss the specifics of many of them, but as vaguely as possible, from the top of my head... there's the guy who would friend all the female members of the site and virtually hug/kiss them, engage them in borderline sexually harrassing activities, including a ten-year-old girl; the guy who insisted that Gary/Blue's hair was orange, not brown, and went into a rage when everyone else disagreed; all the people who ever make a huge deal over properly identifying characters' hair or eye colors, for that matter; the Japanese guy who went into an absolute rage because some young child on our site decided that "Jap" would be the logical abbreviation for the word "Japanese" while unaware of the historically negative connotations, and I was forced to be the one to deal with the guy because I was the only staff member who could speak Japanese; the guy who went on a tirade insisting that Lugia was a water-type and went ballistic when we tried to tell him he was wrong and threatened to crash a plane into the website (????)...
There have also been several kids who have been banned for being absolute twats, and then a day or so later their parents would email us demanding to know why their perfect unique snowflake child was banned and insisting that we undo the ban. (I think I've only seen one instance when a parent actually accepts the reasoning for the ban after we respond and explain what happened to them, and promise that they will talk to their child to make sure they understand what they did was wrong. All the other parents refuse to accept that their child is anything less than perfect.)
And then there are groups like shippers (Advanceshippers seem to be the most lolcow-worthy, somehow) and SOVA (Save Our Voice Actors, some of whom are still convinced that they can bring the original 4Kids voice actors back to their roles that have mostly been cycled out of the regular lineup).
And of course Serebii and WaterPokemonMaster.
I can understand why they do, the new voice actors aren't very good compared to the old ones. While I do accept there is no hope for Veronca Taylor or anyone else voicing for the show anymore, I really don't like the new ones and wish they still had the old ones. This is because the new ones have pretty flat deliveries and haven't improved over the past 7 years whereas the old ones became alright-tier at around episode 20 and kept improving. Plus, James' voice actor was awesome, and so was Brock's. Because frying pans make best drying pans.
They had to change because 4kids lost the rights to the show.
I know BJR, and she's okay for the most part, but she deeeeeeeefinitely has her major lolcow moments, the hurricane-walking one by far the most notable. I've also seen her sperging and raging many times over there being no merchandise for the evil old man characters in Pokemon (Cyrus, Ghetsis, that guy from the second movie, etc.). (Maybe, perhaps, because they're not marketable...?)Blackjackrocket, oh boy, blackjackrocket
http://www.journalfen.net/community/otf_wank/297653.html?thread=10886837#t10886837
in which BJR claims that hurricane victims should just outwalk it.
She is (or was) in love with some random villian from the second Pokemon movie to the point where she wrote a 16 chapter fapfic of her Mary Sue and him bonking. She was also famous in the Pokemon LJ community for freaking out over every little thing. I miss her....![]()
I'm actually friends with her too, since we sperg about the same Pogeymans characters. She does have her moments, but I think overall all she's a decent gal and a pretty talented writer.I know BJR, and she's okay for the most part, but she deeeeeeeefinitely has her major lolcow moments, the hurricane-walking one by far the most notable. I've also seen her sperging and raging many times over there being no merchandise for the evil old man characters in Pokemon (Cyrus, Ghetsis, that guy from the second movie, etc.). (Maybe, perhaps, because they're not marketable...?)
Oh man, it wasn't "gratest pokemon master" was it? I'm assuming you're talking about something else, but "gratest" was just so... well, grate.I'm actually friends with her too, since we sperg about the same Pogeymans characters. She does have her moments, but I think overall all she's a decent gal and a pretty talented writer.
Plus she and I rustle SJW jimmies together on tumblr (yeeep, they're into Pokemon!).
I'm curious about her supposed Mary-Sue. If it's the fic I'm thinking of it's just a backstory, not a Mary-Sue (and it's actually a really good fic imho). There are Mary-Sues others have written about that character though, including one that's one of my all-time favorite badfics thanks to being damn near My Immortal levels of ridiculousness.