Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Peanut Butter Trails]

Unstoppable autism vs immovable autism. Is there a gorilla in here?

I see a giant gorilla nigger trying to start shit, but nothing out of the ordinary for autism magnets like this thread.

 

[Coon Cheese]

Gen 5 is fun if you are a faggot who likes the gay ass elements for a children’s collectathon rpg. The sprite work is okay, but the designs just suck.

I’m not gonna call a shiny turd a gem. I’m not Indian unlike some of you.

i was a child when and black and white came out, you're not white and you're a fag for seething this hard about a kids game

 

[Level99Manchild]

Are you excited for Eternatus?! I hope you can get 8900 XL candies next month (Yes, it's going to cost a lot of fucking candy to use it). You get only one Eternatus for free from an upcoming pass (hopefully you get good IVs), but then you have to beat Eternamax to get a lot of candies. You won't be able to catch Eternatus after you beat it (I hope you and your wallet are ready to fight it multiple times, and you don't fight him with retards). This is gonna be the most p2w af Pokemon next to Kyurem and the dogs. I don't want to imagine what they'll do with Calyrex. I got a feeling Paldean legendaries are going to be worthless for the most part whenever we get o them (Paradox will be amazing in Go).

Max content is one of GO's biggest fails.

I would go even further and say it’s not just Pokemon, no, it’s also a problem with Nintendo in general. People who’ve grown up playing Nintendo games seem to like complaining because of the changes made across generations. They can’t accept that they’re not the target demographic anymore.

Yet they keep going for that audience with Kanto because Kanto is the only generation people give a fuck about. The audiences they want don't even give two shits about Pokemon let alone anything out of what? Gen 4? I don't know anyone who cares about Galar and Paldean Pokemon despite TPC is trying so hard to push them.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Nigga the issue is that Gen V literally tries to be Gen 1. III and IV try to do their own shit. The issue with Gen V is that it’s all nostalgia bait. The entire dex is literally “let’s try to recreate Gen 1.” Gen III isn’t trying to do newer versions of old evolutionary lines the entire time. Unova is 70% trying to make a new Kanto. Unova is the beginning of trying to be Kanto again and again.

Swords of Justice are ugly and you like them because you have FAS.

I just want you to know that I will use your posts next time I'm on /vp/. This is fantastic bait. Would you happen to know who Yawnfag is, by any chance?

 

[Squawking Macaw]

This is fantastic bait.

At this point it's clear he's baiting the thread into a slapfight.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

but it might have something to do with the routes themselves being too simple.

That's probably my main issue with it, they just feel empty. Oh. ANOTHER swimmer. Oh. A dive spot that might get me a... red shard?

Maybe if the routes had more varied landmarks/sprite work to make the route more pleasant to look at and visually distinct as to where exactly you are I'd appreciate it more.

The issue with Gen V is that it’s all nostalgia bait.

My argument is more that it was a bad attempt at trying to court Gen 1 fans and give new players a similar experience.

Gen V was meant to be a reboot because Pokemon was hoping to court a brand new generation of kids. Gen 1 fans were never the target audience.

When I see a Garbador I don't get nostalgia for Muk. When I see Sandile, I don't get nostalgia for Sandshrew. When I see a Gavantula I don't get nostalgia for Venomoth or Scyther, I go "WOAH an electric jumping spider! That's really cool! AND IT KNOWS U-TURN which offsets its squishy nature! (At least we agree on something, Joltik line is great)

Even the Pokemon I don't like (Tynamo line, Gothita line, Vullaby line, Vanillite line, Patrat line) still have their own distinct identities and looks that I can see other people finding appealing and none of them are nostalgia bait for Gen 1. I'd call them derivative, but they're too different to be nostalgic.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

@Catgirl Tyranid

My issue is that they are derivative ultimately because they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.

The designs of Gen V are derivative to the point where they don’t stand on their own because of dependence on the old.

I’ll autistically list the parallels that I think are directly shit:
Rattata- Patrat
Pidgey - Pidove
Poliwag - Beanie Man
Meowth - Purloin
Drowsey - Munna
Geodude - Roggenrola
Zubat - Woobat
Sandshrew - Drilburr
Machop - Timburr
Krabby -Dwibble
Grimer - Trubbish
Abra/ Jynx - Gothita/ Solosis
Magnamite - Klink
Tentacool - Frillish
Electrode - Foongus
Tauros - Regional Tauros
Spearow - Vullaby
Mewtwo - Genesect
Pontya- Blitzle
Lee and Chan - Bert and Ernie
Golden - Basculin
Pikachu - Emolga
Sandile is more a ripoff of Nidoking line
The shitty snow cone is apeing Maganamite.

Designs that feel like rip offs of Jhoto:
Pineco - Ferroseed
Sigilyph
Cubachoo
Cottinee is basically gayer Jumpluff
I have more

Designs that are derivative, but good:
Ghastly - Litwick
The fossilmons
Ducklett is equal if not superior to Psyduck
The Bug types with two evos are great

Deserve tree rat treatment:
Monkeys
Literally a dog

 

[Squawking Macaw]

My issue is that they are derivative ultimately because they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.

The designs of Gen V are derivative to the point where they don’t stand on their own because of dependence on the old.

So according to your logic we can only have one Pokemon for each animal species? Or apparently not even that because you can't tell the difference between a zebra and a unicorn.

These are a massive stretch, the only thing most of your examples have in common is the type. What do Abra and Jynx have in common with Gothita and Solosis besides being Psychic type? What do Spearow and Vullaby have in common besides being birds? Why criticize Emolga, Patrat and Pidove when every region has a Pikachu clone and an early game rodent and bird?

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

@Catgirl Tyranid

My issue is that they are derivative ultimately because they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.

The designs of Gen V are derivative to the point where they don’t stand on their own because of dependence on the old.

I’ll autistically list the parallels that I think are directly shit:
Rattata- Patrat
Pidgey - Pidove
Poliwag - Beanie Man
Meowth - Purloin
Drowsey - Munna
Geodude - Roggenrola
Zubat - Woobat
Sandshrew - Drilburr
Machop - Timburr
Krabby -Dwibble
Grimer - Trubbish
Abra/ Jynx - Gothita/ Solosis
Magnamite - Klink
Tentacool - Frillish
Electrode - Foongus
Tauros - Regional Tauros
Spearow - Vullaby
Mewtwo - Genesect
Pontya- Blitzle
Lee and Chan - Bert and Ernie
Golden - Basculin
Pikachu - Emolga
Sandile is more a ripoff of Nidoking line
The shitty snow cone is apeing Maganamite.

Designs that feel like rip offs of Jhoto:
Pineco - Ferroseed
Sigilyph
Cubachoo
Cottinee is basically gayer Jumpluff
I have more

Designs that are derivative, but good:
Ghastly - Litwick
The fossilmons
Ducklett is equal if not superior to Psyduck
The Bug types with two evos are great

Deserve tree rat treatment:
Monkeys
Literally a dog

See you can call these derivative, but there's enough differences here that you can't call it nostalgia bait. I'm not going to counteract your entire list, but here are some cherry picks.

- Patrat is the early route normal type just like Sentret, Zigzagoon, and Bidoof before it, but it still has its own identity as a Hypnosis user. Complaining about an early route normal type is retarded when it was already a series staple for the prior 4 generations.

- Ferroseed isn't even a bag worm or a pine cone, it's a burr that sticks to your socks and pant legs when you hike through brush. "Oh its round like a pine cone!" never mind that Pineco isn't pokey and evolves into a spherical floating battleship.

- Ducklett's not even a duck, it's a baby swan and you take that back, Psyduck is perfect just the way he is.

- Litwick and Ghastly beyond each having 3 stages and being part ghost aren't even remotely similar and if that's your criteria for considering something nostalgia bait than ANYTHING that you don't like can be compared to something before it and put in that bucket in your mind.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

So according to your logic we can only have one Pokemon for each animal species? Or apparently not even that because you can't tell the difference between a zebra and a unicorn.

These are a massive stretch, the only thing most of your examples have in common is the type. What do Abra and Jynx have in common with Gothita and Solosis besides being Psychic type? What do Spearow and Vullaby have in common besides being birds? Why criticize Emolga, Patrat and Pidove when every region has a Pikachu clone and an early game rodent and bird?

@Catgirl Tyranid

Are both letting your bias blind you to how right I am. You’ve admitted I’m right. My issue is that almost the entirety of the roster is derivative in the worst way.

Every game has first route derivatives, but Gen V is the one that wants you to praise it for it. Gen 3 had the same formula, but at least varied the designs and didn’t feel like knock-offs.

Ducklett is literally the ugly duckling turning into a swan, Jeet. I know English nursery stories are forbidden because it might cause you to doubt Kali and hesitate in murdering children for your pagan demon god, but it’s pretty well known.
It’s also blue, pretty cool in my opinion. I’ve never seen a blue duck.

 

[The Cum Beast]

My issue is that they are derivative ultimately because they are trying to have their cake and eat it too.

...Do you not know that there's more than one type of bat in the world? Or more than one type of pine cone? Or one type of Cat? Or one type of Dog? And i can go on but you get the point

Not everyone has played pokemon since red and blue. I enjoyed gen 5 when I first got into pokemon. And no this isn't nostalgia speaking, i recently replayed both BW and B2W2 on offical hardware again, so no speed up, and it still aged great to this day. I'm not someone who is super autistic about pokemon designs but Unovan pokemon are still more reminiscent of gens 1-4 than SV's pokemon for example.

If you want to see ACTUAL gen one pandering: XY and the Alola games had KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO references everywhere you looked, megas being mostly of kanto mons, alolan forms only being based on kanto pokemon. Despite not being as bad on the switch imo, they still made a remake of yellow which is another kanto games (Lets go) and every G-max pokemon in SwSh was either a galar or KANTO pokemon (besides garbodor).

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Are both letting your bias blind you to how right I am. You’ve admitted I’m right. My issue is that almost the entirety of the roster is derivative in the worst way.

Your original argument was that Gen V, the generation known for alienating old fans of the series because it included an entirely new roster of Pokemon and was intended to be a soft reboot in the hopes of snagging the next generation of children, was "nostalgia bait".

We've gone out of our way to explain to you in time wasting autistic detail that your take is retarded so you've moved the goal posts to "derivative".

Fuck off.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Your original argument was that Gen V, the generation known for alienating old fans of the series because it included an entirely new roster of Pokemon and was intended to be a soft reboot in the hopes of snagging the next generation of children, was "nostalgia bait".

We've gone out of our way to explain to you in time wasting autistic detail that your take is retarded so you've moved the goal posts to "derivative".

Fuck off.

My argument was that it was derivative because it wanted to try to give a new generation of kids the Gen 1 experience and also give Gen 1 fans nostalgia. It failed on both fronts. Gen V designs in general are lame. My oldest niece commented on this when I gave her all the old games (she likes Heart Gold the most).

You literally don’t understand my argument either because the head bobbing is giving your Jeet brain damage. Gen V insists upon itself. The novelty of what it fails to do isn’t charming, it’s a soulless attempt at trying to be Gen 1.

@The Cum Beast I view regional forms to honestly be fine. I wouldn’t hate Bouffalent if it was just Kalos Tauros. It doesn’t look anything like a Buffalo. A lot of the designs aren’t bad, but they are tacky in bulk. They are made worse by knowing what they are.
Regional forms are a more tolerable form of pandering.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

My argument was that it was derivative becau

The issue with Gen V is that it’s all nostalgia bait

Fuck off.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Fuck off.

Those aren’t conflicting statements. I know your vegetarian diet that forbids you from eating garlic or onions erodes your grey matter, but come on.

Edit: @Catgirl Tyranid thank you for conceding

 

[30+GameOvers]

@HodgePodgeRogerDodger is this you?

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

@HodgePodgeRogerDodger is this you?
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No, I only posted on /vp/ to shitpost about Hypno beating the allegations. I think I do have the meme about the autist playing at his grandmothers funeral.

I occasionally watch this thread to see if Clover gets talked about.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Edit: @Catgirl Tyranid thank you for conceding

I humble myself before your argumentative prowess. I could never hope to defeat someone so intellectually dense as you.

As penance, I've retracted your bad boy sticker and replaced it with a good boy sticker.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I humble myself before your argumentative prowess. I could never hope to defeat someone so intellectually dense as you.

As penance, I've retracted your bad boy sticker and replaced it with a good boy sticker.

Thank you for conceding. I know it takes a lot to admit you were wrong and MATI.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Thank you for conceding. I know it takes a lot to admit you were wrong and MATI.

*Consneeding.