Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

(Defog removes hazards/terrain and lowers the opponent's evasion).

Didn't defog get full on Haze in Gen 5?

Also if it only hits ally stat changes then it is fairly useless.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Didn't defog get full on Haze in Gen 5?

Also if it only hits ally stat changes then it is fairly useless.

Defog doesn't affect stat changes.

Considering everything it does at this point it'd easily be the most broken status move in the game by a long shot if it erased stat changes too.

And yeah, real bummer about Curious Medicine. I really wish GF would make it so abilities work differently depending on if you're in a double or single battle. Like say Healer effectively becomes Shed Skin in a single battle instead of being completely useless.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

And yeah, real bummer about Curious Medicine. I really wish GF would make it so abilities work differently depending on if you're in a double or single battle. Like say Healer effectively becomes Shed Skin in a single battle instead of becoming completely useless.

Well Frankly GF only cares about Double Battles, the "OFFICIAL" tm format is 4v4 Double battles, it is pretty clear they give no crap to anything outside of that.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Well Frankly GF only cares about Double Battles, the "OFFICIAL" tm format is 4v4 Double battles, it is pretty clear they give no crap to anything outside of that.

At the same time, they weirdly threw singles players a bone for once this gen out of the blue, such as Heavy-Duty Boots (grants immunity to entry hazards) and the buff to Rapid Spin (power raised by 30 and boosts speed). Both of these don't factor into doubles at all as hazards are almost never used there.

But yeah, the constant pandering to doubles otherwise is extremely annoying.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

At the same time, they weirdly threw singles players a bone for once this gen out of the blue, such as Heavy-Duty Boots (grants immunity to entry hazards) and the buff to Rapid Spin (power raised by 30 and boosts speed). Both of these don't factor into doubles at all as hazards are almost never used there.

But yeah, the constant pandering to doubles otherwise is extremely annoying.

It wouldn't even be as bad if the main game actually utilized double battles more. At least then, the double battle exclusive moves and abilities don't feel as pointless.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

If only the games had HALF this soul!

Finally watched it, but it doesn't make me hyped or feel nostalgic. Like it's great animation (Bones should do more projects for Pokémon tbh) and the choice of making it like a film is brilliant, but it's super flashy and everything moves around too fast to really take in. Yeah, there's 20+ years of references to cram in and watching it several times helps, but can Pokémon just slow down for one second, holy Arceus.

Flashy animation and colors are all people take away from anime these days, and that just bugs me. It's cool to see some of the franchise's famous scenes, but there's not enough time for it to soak in and it doesn't have the impact that it should have the first time around. I shouldn't have to watch it two or three times to know what I'm even looking at while letting the music wash over me. Only thing it got right when it came to that was showing the (rotoscoped???) train tracks scene from Stand By Me.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I’m guessing lore-wise is Galarian Slowking is what happens when the Shellder the latched into its head as a Slowpoke took control.

 

[verygayFrogs]

I know lots of people like to rag on Unova being linear and the map bring a circle but after slogging through Gen IV it was a massive breath of fresh air not needing so many HMs to progress through the region. I am all for exploration and less linearity but Sinnoh was not fun to explore.

I mean in the main game you only need to use cut once for story progression and the rest of the HM usage is for items and exploration. So you can ditch that Patrat as soon as your in the second city. Seriously, the only time you need cut is for the Dreamyard, which is like right after the first gym.

 

[Tour of Italy]

If only the games had HALF this soul!

Maybe I'm getting old but all that video did was hurt my eyes, Jesus.

Some fun moments but it was impossible to keep everything straight.

The boys walking along the railroad tracks did hit me pretty hard though, once it clicked.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

If only the games had HALF this soul!

I was only mildly impressed tbh. It feels like ever since gen VI they've been doing an awful lot of this "LOOK HOW BIG THIS FRANCHISE IS! LOOK AT HOW MANY REFERENCES WE CAN CRAM INTO A MINUTE LONG VIDEO!" compilation stuff. It's like, yeah, we get it. Pokemon has a long and storied history, how about you put more effort into the now instead of constantly masturbating about the past? Oh right, nostalgia sells...

On another note, it's yet another frustrating tease that they could make a different anime as an alternative to the ever droning Ash "saga" (though not THAT flashy for the whole thing obviously) but just like Origins, Generations, the Galar specials and more, it's just that. A tease of what older fans would like to see that they'll never fully deliver on.

 

[SnowBall]

I was only mildly impressed tbh. It feels like ever since gen VI they've been doing an awful lot of this "LOOK HOW BIG THIS FRANCHISE IS! LOOK AT HOW MANY REFERENCES WE CAN CRAM INTO A MINUTE LONG VIDEO!" compilation stuff. It's like, yeah, we get it. Pokemon has a long and storied history, how about you put more effort into the now instead of constantly masturbating about the past? Oh right, nostalgia sells...

On another note, it's yet another frustrating tease that they could make a different anime as an alternative to the ever droning Ash "saga" (though not THAT flashy for the whole thing obviously) but just like Origins, Generations, the Galar specials and more, it's just that. A tease of what older fans would like to see that they'll never fully deliver on.

Digimon has been doing the exact same thing for the past five years too. The non stop Adventure pandering and nostalgia bait at the expense of any new material. Yet for some reason Digimon gets a free pass for sucking off Adventure and churning out new Omnimon/Gabumon/Agumon forms.

It’s not just the anime either. A lot of things people complain about in modern Pokemon is also present in modern Digimon. Like the Cyber Sleuth games. They are fantastic but anyone who buys it hoping for an alternative to SwSh is in for a very rude awakening when they are confronted by the insane amount of cutscenes, extreme linearity, no exploration factor, and lack of challenge. If people think SwSh is bad with the cutscenes and getting stopped every five seconds by annoying npcs I would love to see them struggle with the first half of CS.

 

[Supertower]

Long time fan, but I think I'm starting to lose it. I wasn't particularly impressed by gen 8 and I don't think I'll participate in the next gen unless it happens to seriously wow me. If it's anything to make up for it, I'll probably get the upcoming DLC (even though I missed out on the first one). It's cool, but for some reason it isn't hyping me as much as I thought it might've. I've been kind of out of the loop...it's sort of a shame.

 

[Vapewizard]

Long time fan, but I think I'm starting to lose it. I wasn't particularly impressed by gen 8 and I don't think I'll participate in the next gen unless it happens to seriously wow me.

I already felt this early on when SwSh was released but on the plus side at least there's hope for the spinoffs to be good even if the main series disappoints. Mystery dungeon DX was a good remake and the upcoming new Snap looks promising.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

I already felt this early on when SwSh was released but on the plus side at least there's hope for the spinoffs to be good even if the main series disappoints. Mystery dungeon DX was a good remake and the upcoming new Snap looks promising.

Come for the mainline, stay for the spinoffs.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

It’s not just the anime either. A lot of things people complain about in modern Pokemon is also present in modern Digimon. Like the Cyber Sleuth games. They are fantastic but anyone who buys it hoping for an alternative to SwSh is in for a very rude awakening when they are confronted by the insane amount of cutscenes, extreme linearity, no exploration factor, and lack of challenge. If people think SwSh is bad with the cutscenes and getting stopped every five seconds by annoying npcs I would love to see them struggle with the first half of CS.

Definitely got more of a Persona feel for Cyber Sleuth than Pokemon alternative. Still good and would recommend it though.

As for spin-offs, Pokemon Conquest is a great hidden gem on the original DS. It's a combo of the Nobunga's Ambition 4X games and Pokemon, and was the first Nintendo x Koei Tecmo game before Hyrule Warriors. Solid SRPG if you like the genre.

 

[Incognito Tuxedo]

Speaking of spin-offs, I wish we would get another Orre Region game (Colosseum/XD). I was replaying through them before SwSh came out and was having a great time with battles being difficult and having wacky/fun music. (Bring back Miror B dammit!) Wes was supposed to be the main villain in XD iirc but it never happened. Wouldv'e been dope to have a character that you played as become the villain in the sequel. Kind-of like a reverse Red.

Looking back the games were somewhat mature compared to the ones were getting now. I know Pokemon is a kids series but I've yet to see a pokemon game come as close to colosseum/XD in terms of atmosphere which makes you wonder why we never got a sequel after XD. I assume the games didn't sell well perhaps but damn I loved how unique those games were and would love to see one last Orre region game. I'd buy an HD remaster if ever released day 1. Before the PMD remake, we haven't had a mystery dungeon game since Super MD so I still have some hope but won't hold my breath.

 

[Vapewizard]

Looking back the games were somewhat mature compared to the ones were getting now. I know Pokemon is a kids series but I've yet to see a pokemon game come as close to colosseum/XD in terms of atmosphere which makes you wonder why we never got a sequel after XD.

Yeah I get it. The games aren't as edgy as some of the stuff from the manga but Orre being more lawless than the other regions makes it stand out. Though I dunno myself how they could still make it interesting if it's a third game in the same region.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

Assuming Galarian Slowking's gonna be way better than Slowbro. G-Bro is neat, but it's held back by it's luck based ability and the fact that it's unique attack functions off of his OPPONENTS defense or special defense and not his own attack or special attack, like Photon Geyser does. Or if it was a poison psyshock might have even been better, but alas.

However, given that G-King's hidden ability will likely still be Regenerator too and his signature move seems much better, Im hoping he'll be much better. Assuming his stat will be a jumbled up G-Bro's I'm thinking it's most likely to be 95/75/100/95/100/30 (or maybe 95/75/95/100/100/30) which is a very good stat spread for a defensive pokemon, even better for a Pokemon with Regenerator, and amazing for a Pokemon with both of those qualities who can absorb toxic spikes, spread status, reduce PP, and set up future sight. I think it's going to be something of a staple in OU meta tbh, especially with mins like Zapdos coming back to form defensive cores.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I got Pokemon Sword the other day, and I have to admit, it's not that bad. I actually like it.

It's fun, and I am having a really good time with it. I do have issues with it like GF fucking up Wonder Trading and the GTS again, and not being able to turn off the EXP Share ability, but it is fun. I like characters, especially Leon, and Piers, and I know I'm in the minority for this, but I think the graphics are just fine.

They're not mind-blowing, but they're not godawful like I thought they'd be. They even look really good some times like in the mines, and mushroom forests. There is an occasional lagging issue, and sometimes objects, players, and 'mons just spawn out of nowhere, but that's it really.

I think that despite all the backlash, bad moves by the company, and the Dexit, this is still a perfectly acceptable, and fun Pokemon game.

 

[FluffyTehFennekin]

I’m still waiting for gen 9!
I haven’t even got past Nessa’s gym!!