Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

At least back when third versions were something you expected at the time, you could generally skip out on playing the original titles and play their more fully realized versions the next year. There's no reason to play Diamond/Pearl when Platinum is so much better, a difference in game quality which has only been exacerbated by the subpar remakes (to that end, I'm really bummed we never got a Pokemon Z).

I think the way SWSH handled DLC actively withheld content from players behind steep paywalls that could have made for interesting postgame content, since the base game is like 20 hours long at most. I simply don't trust Game Freak to do DLC well.
Conversely, third versions always had worse sales than their original versions.

I just hope that a Pokémon Z hack comes one day.
 
I’ve seen people use Charizard in raids, so I don’t know who was saying you can’t.
It must of been a temporary ban on allowing Zard into raids then. I know for a fact that when the event first launched, it wouldn't even let me into the waiting room of a raid if it or it's prevo's we're in my party. That, or there's some kind of weird restriction on what raids you can use it based on the hosts story progress. If the later is the case, they should really put in some kind of indicator so you know if it's a 6* capable post game host or not, kinda like how Monster Hunter has Low/High/G rank.
 
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Since I finally got my shiny charm, I decided to give the sandwich buff method a try...


Am I the only one who thinks it makes it way too easy? The odds are so damn high, you're almost guaranteed 2-3 shinies an hour. It's insane.


Regarding this, for anyone with Scarlet, apparently you can force spawn a shiny Flutter Mane. Eat a Ghost sandwich during the day, search around Research Area 4. Ghosts aren't supposed to spawn during the day, but the shiny FM is coded like shit, so it still does. Under these conditions Shiny FM is the ONLY thing that can spawn in the area.
 
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Since I finally got my shiny charm, I decided to give the sandwich buff method a try...


Am I the only one who thinks it makes it way too easy? The odds are so damn high, you're almost guaranteed 2-3 shinies an hour. It's insane.


Regarding this, for anyone with Scarlet, apparently you can force spawn a shiny Flutter Mane. Eat a Ghost sandwich during the day, search around Research Area 4. Ghosts aren't supposed to spawn during the day, but the shiny FM is coded like shit, so it still does. Under these conditions Shiny FM is the ONLY thing that can spawn in the area.
Huh, I’d heard all the Ancient/Future Pokémon were currently shiny locked.
 
I really want the ablity to filter raids or outbreaks on the map or see details about the raids when you put a flag down on them. I find the symbols are really timy and them all having different colours does not help. Finding the 7 Star Raid is hard.
Since I finally got my shiny charm, I decided to give the sandwich buff method a try...


Am I the only one who thinks it makes it way too easy? The odds are so damn high, you're almost guaranteed 2-3 shinies an hour. It's insane.
Good. Since you have to complete everything and grind herbs of spending time crafting stuff at that point in the game it probably should be easy. Considering all the work you put in.

I say they should have just added a Shiny Mint honestly and lock in behind 7 Star Raids but only after you complete the Dex and catch a Shiny.
 
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Another reason why Pokémon hasn't gotten to the falling apart stage, is because the series doesn't try to put modern-day politics aspects into it, for the most part. Or in the times that they do, it isn't as blatantly in-your-face, compared to other games shoehorning those aspects in. Then again, given that the primary target demographic for the series is children, I don't think that forcing modern-day politics in would work out well with them, compared to how Disney is learning that the hard way. And Blizzard and Wizards of the Coast, despite their games not being targeted for children, are also learning the hard way that people don't like to get politics shoved down their throats.

Also, even if getting the necessary equipment for the older games (console + cartridge) can be a hassle, all of the games for the most part are still playable. Compare that to other games, which have gone the live-service route, leading to things such as features being removed and not being able to be used again (compared to how you still go back to the older Pokémon games), the games having an always-online requirement, and FOMO being shoved more and more down your throat (and even the Pokémon games are guilty of this, with their event giveaways). And with emulation being a thing, it makes it even easier to play the older games, if you still have the itch for them.

The Pokémon themselves, and the human characters, also do a fair-share of carrying the franchise, even if it's for the wrong reasons in certain cases. Iono became an instant hit with the fanbase, after she was revealed, as one recent example.
 
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Huh, I’d heard all the Ancient/Future Pokémon were currently shiny locked.
Nope. The only Ancient/Future Pokemon that are shiny locked are Koraidon and Miraidon.

On that note, a contact I made in a livestream completed their second collection of Scarlet Paradox mons and we organized a trade. I now have the complete collection of shiny Paradoxes. In fact, here's my entire collection so far:

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Since I finally got my shiny charm, I decided to give the sandwich buff method a try...


Am I the only one who thinks it makes it way too easy? The odds are so damn high, you're almost guaranteed 2-3 shinies an hour. It's insane.

Yeah, they're not anywhere near as prestigious as they were in previous games and probably never will be again. On the flip side, training and raising them is so easy now that any shiny you obtain can be made competitively viable which affords the opportunity to show them off more.

I think the real shiny hunts now will be those with marks. Those will still be hard enough, even with sandwiches, especially when hunting for specific marks. At the end of the day, I think I'm fine with the increased rates for shiny Pokemon.

Edit: I think there are two hunts that would be more prestigious actually. Shiny family of three Maushold and shiny three segment Dudunsparce. I think I'll hunt the Dudunsparce.
 
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Fuck you, Psychic Mark, you took my Rusty and Chi from me! (Well, I didn't switch out my Zubat like I should've when she survived a Confusion to beat a Kadabra but had gotten confused.)

Was looking forward to getting a Golbat, too. :(

RIP Rusty (♂ lvl. 17) and Chi (♀ lvl. 17).

Current team:

Irwin (♂) - lvl. 18 Croconaw
Milly (♀) - lvl. 17 Wooper
Wendy (♀) lvl. 18 Oddish
Odd Egg (about to hatch)
Replacements pending.

EDIT: My egg hatched into a Shiny female Igglybuff. I immediately love my Emily.
 
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So what's the Nuzlocke rule about breeding? I ended up catching a Ditto, so not sure if it's cheating or not. Also am planning on getting a Sun Stone so I just need to retake the Bug-Catching Contest again and again until I do, but the only Bug I'm keeping is the Metapod.
 
So what's the Nuzlocke rule about breeding? I ended up catching a Ditto, so not sure if it's cheating or not. Also am planning on getting a Sun Stone so I just need to retake the Bug-Catching Contest again and again until I do, but the only Bug I'm keeping is the Metapod.
Breeding would violate the spirit of a Nuzlocke even if it's not mentioned in the rules. If you can breed infinite cannon fodder you've removed the lose condition of running out of Pokemon.

As long a you're not keeping anything except your first catch on that route I don't see an issue with farming for a Sun stone. Is it not available anywhere else?
 
As long a you're not keeping anything except your first catch on that route I don't see an issue with farming for a Sun stone. Is it not available anywhere else?
Only available at the Bug-Catching Contest.

Right now I'm farming Friendship so Iggly can evolve her next level up in time to get Rollout.
 
So what's the Nuzlocke rule about breeding? I ended up catching a Ditto, so not sure if it's cheating or not. Also am planning on getting a Sun Stone so I just need to retake the Bug-Catching Contest again and again until I do, but the only Bug I'm keeping is the Metapod.
Some people take a rule that an egg hatch can be done, but wherever it's born, it takes that route or city's spawn. That can be a good way to balance it.
 
So, after seeing what Feucoco turned into, I kind of shuffled this game off into the 'fuck that' catagory, but I'm kind of curious, and the wife loves the new mons.

So, what say you, farmers, is S/V worth the purchase?
On balance, yes, but only just. The core game itself is the best Pokemon game in years, the story isn't winning any awards but it's coherent and you actually care about the characters. I personally think firecroc is based but that's personal taste I guess.

Bad points: a technical shambles, barely fit for release that hasn't even been patched. I played it on a Switch Lite and I haven't endured a game this glitch filled and prone to crashing since I was using a shitty PC back in the dial-up days where even thinking about your video card was guaranteed to make the drivers shit themselves.
 
At least the graphics got improved in terms of Pokemon textures and updated flying type models to finally get rid of the annoying T-Pose Gen 6 introduced.

Legends Arceus was better in terms of Camera controls, landscape and visuals in battle but this is the step in the right direction. I hope Gamefreak will follow this path.

Best would be a cycle of Lets go games for the kids, continue with the main line games for casuals and more games like PLA as a gift to the autistics long term fans.
 
is there an indication of when you've got to 30 or 60 KOs in a Mass Outbreak?
No, you just have to keep count. This definitely gets annoying when the Outbreak you're using is a group of aggressive Pokemon, makes it a real pain to keep count while trying to avoid one jumping up your ass and keeping your Pokemon from going back in the ball.




Article ( Pokémon Just Isn’t Better as an Open-World Game )

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Had this article pop up by some retard who obviously doesn't play the games. From everything I've heard, the fans fucking love the open world direction (I know I've always wanted the games to be like this since I was a kid). Thats one aspect of the game that's been receiving undeniable praise despite all the technical issues, the open world we got now is pretty much exactly what fans have been wanting for-fucking-ever. People's biggest complaints are the embarrassing state of the game and half the online features being busted or partially functional. This dude just wants to be a contrarian faggot because he can't be bothered to write an actual article of substance.
 
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