Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Two Dollars]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Dlc is alright too although I couldn't get the final one to work

I just wish the games did not have DLC. It means in a decade you will not be able to get half the game if ypu purchase S/V or Sw/Sh to say nothing of the need to claim a mystery gift to access DLC Part 2 for S/V.

I have come to realise I’d be much happier if they just upped the base price of the game and gave us a version that only needed game updates to access the DLC.

 

[Caesar]

I just wush the games did not have DLC. It means in a decade you will not be able to get half the game if ypu purchase S/V or Sw/Sh to say nothing of the need to claim a mystery gift to access DLC Part 2 for S/V.

I have come to realise I’d be much happier if they just upped the base price of the game and gave us a version that only needed game updates to access the DLC.

Eh, they're $60/70 already, let's not go mental. And that's what piracy is for. I'd rather it all to be base game aswell but if you're emulating or already own SV, I'd say the extra content is worth your time. I would say compared to what some other games put out, the DLC is borderline worth your money too if you buy Nintendo games which never really go on sale.... But in general, yeah, the whole package is probably fairly worth $60.

Its probably the best post game they've ever done though. OK there's no hundreds of hours battle frontier but the story was pretty fun and I did like the blueberry academy biome, although the bits in the school building were my least fave parts of it. It did make me wish some of those Pokemon were available for the main game though. I did quite like my team in the end though.

 

[Registration]

Man, not sure if it is an addition to the game by the hack or the game but being able to fight all gym leaders in a single place with their strongest teams was very cool. All lf tjem are lvl 80-90 but are very well done teams.

I even lost to Marlon and Dryden once each.

As I walked into the new areas, I did encounter some new pokémon like Jirachi, meloetta and the genesect that was in the team plasma ship. There we even fight Collress again with his super team.

I am not sure what else is to do in this game but the PWT seems really fun. I did attempt twice bwoth my trio of Scolipede, Masquerain and Chandelier and it was fun. Dunked hard on the kanto gym leaders

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

Genuinely, I prefer just playing vanilla with some QoL tweaks using the UPR like fixing the level curve in Johto or making trade evolutions optional. Most hacks really change the game more than I'd like if I want to just play through a region, I look at them more like their own fangames. If I had to pick, though, Drayano's hacks are all pretty solid and tend to leave a lot of the important things alone.

 

[negativlad]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

Here’s your compulsory “Play them vanilla, on original hardware” comment, but IMO:
Gen 1 - Red++
Gen 2 - Polished Crystal if you like it classic, Crystal Clear if youd like to try one that’s feature-rich
Gen 3 - there are approximately 11 billion ways to play, but I like Radical Red. There are far more vanilla ones out there.

 

[Archeops]

Well I managed to set up Pocket on my iPad (all I had to do was make an NZ Apple account and disconnect and use it on my iPad with a VPN). I'll make a list of pros and cons in a bit.

I just wush the games did not have DLC. It means in a decade you will not be able to get half the game if ypu purchase S/V or Sw/Sh to say nothing of the need to claim a mystery gift to access DLC Part 2 for S/V.

I have come to realise I’d be much happier if they just upped the base price of the game and gave us a version that only needed game updates to access the DLC.

Funny you should bring that up, "complete" physical editions of SWSH were released a while back and SV technically have 'em as well so long as you get the most recent versions of said physical copies (older ones only have The Teal Mask on-cart, The Indigo Disk requires a download).

Finally got around to finishing Scarlet the other day. Man, it's a crying shame that the generation is such a technical clusterfuck because otherwise it might have been one of my favourite mainline games. Hopefully their engine isn't held together with string next time, though I'm not holding my breath.

I really hate parroting this statement but GF and TPC should've delayed it by a year and dedicate that time to serious QA work. They wouldn't have fixed some of the issues but I'm pretty sure they could fix a majority of the performance issues in that timeframe.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Funny you should bring that up, "complete" physical editions of SWSH were released a while back and SV technically have 'em as well so long as you get the most recent versions of said physical copies (older ones only have The Teal Mask on-cart, The Indigo Disk requires a download).

It’s all on the Cart technically older versions are just a bigger update.

My gripe is the fact that the base versions will become completely dead in a decade.

I really wish they would indicate on the boxes the newer version that include everything. As it is now you kind of just have to buy and hope you get lucky.

I really hate parroting this statement but GF and TPC should've delayed it by a year and dedicate that time to serious QA work. They wouldn't have fixed some of the issues but I'm pretty sure they could fix a majority of the performance issues in that timeframe.

As shown by the updates that happened to SV that did indeed fix most of those issues they absolutely could have itoned everything out if given some more time.

The issue I think they’d have still is core design. The world of Paldeia and how it plays is just a massive misstep.

I like the plot and I like the idea of the setting but everything surronding it and how it is presented.

People give the ‘faithful’ DP remaxes a lot of shit but those certainly look more like Pokemon. Even the Lets Go games do SV really doesn’t look or feel like one. Because your character model does not feel like they are designed to fit in the world. Has been an issue since SWSH.

 

[Two Dollars]

Genuinely, I prefer just playing vanilla with some QoL tweaks using the UPR like fixing the level curve in Johto or making trade evolutions optional. Most hacks really change the game more than I'd like if I want to just play through a region, I look at them more like their own fangames. If I had to pick, though, Drayano's hacks are all pretty solid and tend to leave a lot of the important things alone.

Maybe my Google-fu is lacking, but I’m having a tough time finding a list of Drayano’s hacks. I guess this is it?
(Wait, found it; I’ll elaborate below)

Here’s your compulsory “Play them vanilla, on original hardware” comment,

I’ve played the originals enough, that’s why I’m looking for something new.

Gen 1 - Red++
Gen 2 - Polished Crystal if you like it classic, Crystal Clear if youd like to try one that’s feature-rich
Gen 3 - there are approximately 11 billion ways to play, but I like Radical Red. There are far more vanilla ones out there.

Red++ and Polished Crystal look pretty good. I played Crystal Clear a few years ago and do like it (I actually posted the skin tone patch here many pages ago, though I don’t know if it’s still the latest version). Radical Red looks good, but it’s not Gen 3 (I mean it is, but it’s Gen 1 remakes).

For anyone curious, I did some more digging and found this Reddit thread compiling the sub’s most popular hacks into a Google doc, which is itself compiled from a series of threads linked in the top comment. Pokemon R.O.W.E. looks interesting, so I might try that.

 

[Lizard Machine Bugs]

Gen 2 - Polished Crystal if you like it classic, Crystal Clear if youd like to try one that’s feature-rich

I'm trying out Crystal Legacy right now, it's pretty nice.

 

[negativlad]

Radical Red looks good, but it’s not Gen 3 (I mean it is, but it’s Gen 1 remakes).

Ah, I get you. I think Inclement Emerald (maybe the EX version of it which exchanges compatibility for customization) can get you as close to or as far from the regular gen 3 experience as you like; as far as I can tell it’s like Radical Red except Emerald and a little less Radical Red-y, if you feel me.

 

[Registration]

So what's the best way to play each generation (or at least the first three)? I know it's a very subjective question, but it feels like a new improvement/enhancement/balance/full-Pokedex/whatever-the-fuck hack is released every week, and I've lost count.

For what it's worth, I prefer hacks that don't alter base stats/moves/type matchups. I'll make an exception if something like that is altered to match a newer game, but that's it.

There is some cringe like having romantic interactions but Pokémon Emerald Enhanced is my favorite way to play Hoenn, it gives new life by adding a ton of features from future games and adding new stuff like map expansions and some story changes (like deciding to help team aqua or magma)

 

[AnotherPleb]

Finally got around to finishing Scarlet the other day. Man, it's a crying shame that the generation is such a technical clusterfuck because otherwise it might have been one of my favourite mainline games. Hopefully their engine isn't held together with string next time, though I'm not holding my breath.

You're playing it after all the bug fixes and even then there's areas in the game with massive performance hits.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

You're playing it after all the bug fixes and even then there's areas in the game with massive performance hits.

At this point I’d be mad if they fixed the sky popping out of reality leaving you to stare into a black void.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

...and even James here is about 16, canonically.

Late and lost in the ROMhack sperging. Jessie and James are the same age, and Jessie was mentioned to be almost 25 in the official "The Birth of Mewtwo" radio drama. Some sources in the U.S. databook releases mention late-teens, which usually meant they were 19 at the oldest.

 

[negativlad]

In one of the comics they were too old to either get it together enough for the Pokemon league or to go back to school, and a couple of years (maybe even one year?) after the events of the comic had decided to settle down and get married and Jesse is knocked up. I’m guessing older than 16 then.

 

[Caesar]

Late and lost in the ROMhack sperging. Jessie and James are the same age, and Jessie was mentioned to be almost 25 in the official "The Birth of Mewtwo" radio drama. Some sources in the U.S. databook releases mention late-teens, which usually meant they were 19 at the oldest.

I was thinking of the episode where Jessie signs up as an idol in disguise, and it says she's 17. A little googling says Bulbapedia had 16 unsourced for a while. There's even an episode where Jessie says 120 is 10x her age - she could be joking or exaggerating though. She could be lying about the idol thing too I guess.

Maybe the answer is they're canonically 12-22 at all times, lol

 

[Two Dollars]

There is some cringe like having romantic interactions but Pokémon Emerald Enhanced is my favorite way to play Hoenn, it gives new life by adding a ton of features from future games and adding new stuff like map expansions and some story changes (like deciding to help team aqua or magma)

Alright, I think I’m sold on Emerald Enhanced. I don’t know who first decided Pokemon should have an achievement system with rewards, but they deserve an award.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Maybe the answer is they're canonically 12-22 at all times, lol

Like Ash they are whatever age the Episode needs them to be.

 

[Two Dollars]

Alright, I think I’m sold on Emerald Enhanced. I don’t know who first decided Pokemon should have an achievement system with rewards, but they deserve an award.
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Forget what I said here, didn’t realize Enhanced was a Kaizo hack. So much work and so many new features, and they never thought to include difficulty settings