Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Disc]

It would also be a good opportunity to bring back the unused Kiwi pokemon or Doduo's baby form... but that's not likely to happen.
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I'm half expecting the next region to be China-based considering one of the last two games apparently had a Chinese village and those panda pokemon too.
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That and GF really wants to establish a market there.

I thought that was based on Johto/Japan?

Regardless, I don't think they're going to introduce many more baby forms to old lines any time soon. Two reasons:
1: They're ultimately not useful. They take pokemon out of Little Cup and fill spaces a new competitive pokemon could. While we're in the age of the 70-80-ish newmons, they're not gonna pass out old babies.
2: While they stick to the three-evo rule, it takes out an opportunity for a new final evolution.

Unrelated, but it's something I've been thinking about.

Sword and Shield's maps are designed in such a way that you can never walk over or under another walkable space. The walkable terrain never crosses over itself - any bridges are either low enough to not be surfable under or high enough to be on another map.

It's weird because you could do it just fine in games like ORAS...

 

[BeboRefugee]

Unrelated, but it's something I've been thinking about.

Sword and Shield's maps are designed in such a way that you can never walk over or under another walkable space. The walkable terrain never crosses over itself - any bridges are either low enough to not be surfable under or high enough to be on another map.

It's weird because you could do it just fine in games like ORAS...

Well there's some verticality in the Not!Manchester city. GF liked showing it off in Gen 4 because it was somewhat innovative for the series. Does this discount Gen4 remakes? Not really, but I do think they were mindful during design that Galar was fragmented into 3(4?) zones rather than a united region, and adding verticality would make those areas feel even smaller.

For what it's worth I started playing it again 2 weeks ago because I lost enthusiasm in the first mine. Finished the game yesterday and its not as bad as it could have been. Sure it could be better but I went in expecting the opposite of a fun time and wound up getting one.

My only real complaint (dexit aside,, no way am I paying for the Home) is the game was a bit generous with xp and NPC healing... youd go through a route with 1 fainted pokemon and somebody would just heal your ass completely unsolicited. They even did this bit with the Elite 4, which makes sense looking back but it also meant I bought 20 revives for no reason. I always thought being economic with your resources was half the challenge of the E4

 

[Be patient I have lurkism]

This is just a heads-up but a lot of Pokemon “fans“ on /vp/ are hoping that the Poketuber and competitive communities undergo the same upheaval that hit the Smash Bros. and FCG scene recently.

If that happens I get the feeling that Verlisify will be the only one remaining atop the pile of ashes because of God having a sense of humor

 

[Vapewizard]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Super_Mystery_Dungeon#Playable_characters

With 6 generations of starters to choose from I guess it makes sense they cut down the non-starter choices to just Pikachu and Riolu. Though either way I'm finding it pretty dificult to choose my player character. I'd just go with what the game picks for me but I know I'd just reset if it gives me a mon I don't like such as Pikachu.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Super_Mystery_Dungeon#Playable_characters

With 6 generations of starters to choose from I guess it makes sense they cut down the non-starter choices to just Pikachu and Riolu. Though either way I'm finding it pretty dificult to choose my player character. I'd just go with what the game picks for me but I know I'd just reset if it gives me a mon I don't like such as Pikachu.

The personality test does say you're a pikachu. So, does that mean you hate yourself?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Super_Mystery_Dungeon#Playable_characters

With 6 generations of starters to choose from I guess it makes sense they cut down the non-starter choices to just Pikachu and Riolu. Though either way I'm finding it pretty dificult to choose my player character. I'd just go with what the game picks for me but I know I'd just reset if it gives me a mon I don't like such as Pikachu.

Mystery Dungeon DX determined I was a Pikachu, does that mean you hate me? j/k

Although wouldn't it be hilarious if you reset it not once but twice and you still end up a Pikachu? Maybe that'd be a sign.

 

[Ido]

Mystery Dungeon DX determined I was a Pikachu, does that mean you hate me? j/k

Although wouldn't it be hilarious if you reset it not once but twice and you still end up a Pikachu? Maybe that'd be a sign.

I couldn't decide which pokemon I wanted to be, I'd take the test in Dx, play, and restart because I wasnt happy. I got chikorita 9/10 times. I dont hate chikorita but I've never cared for it because I prefer Totodile (had him for the first playthrough of Silver I can remember in Silver and hes a croc/gator) and cyndaquil is close second. So having gotten it multiple times has annoyed me into not liking it, but I can only assume it's my true spirit pokemon because I was answering the questions honestly. I ended up picking cubone and Totodile as my partner, but in my heart of hearts I know I'm a fucking chikorita.

 

[Be patient I have lurkism]

I couldn't decide which pokemon I wanted to be, I'd take the test in Dx, play, and restart because I wasnt happy. I got chikorita 9/10 times. I dont hate chikorita but I've never cared for it because I prefer Totodile (had him for the first playthrough of Silver I can remember in Silver and hes a croc/gator) and cyndaquil is close second. So having gotten it multiple times has annoyed me into not liking it, but I can only assume it's my true spirit pokemon because I was answering the questions honestly. I ended up picking cubone and Totodile as my partner, but in my heart of hearts I know I'm a fucking chikorita.

At least you're something. Every single run of PMD ever has me ending up with a random ass mon whenever I try to answer truthfully because I'm a soulless husk, apparently

 

[Vapewizard]

Mystery Dungeon DX determined I was a Pikachu, does that mean you hate me? j/k

Although wouldn't it be hilarious if you reset it not once but twice and you still end up a Pikachu? Maybe that'd be a sign.

So I did the quiz and it gave me cyndaquil, just like in Explorers of sky. Guess I'm consistent. Pikachu ended up being the partner it recommended. Though since I didn't want to play as a Cyndaquil twice I just chose to play as Snivy with a Fennekin partner cause I just like Fennekin too. I may regret this cause Snivy's movepool is lackluster, but I just like the smug snake.

I'm not that far in but I immediately noticed how extremely handholdy the tutorial is here compared to Blue and Sky. I know it's pokemon and pokemon is babby game, but I don't remember the first two games literally taking control away from you for certain sections. On the plus side it's kinda funny how appropriate my partner choice was considering he's a troublemaker. Foxes gonna fox.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Oh sweet, I found the rant my friend did of Super Mystery Dungeon last year. In spoiler tag for gameplay spoilers, but it's a warning for Fenneken players.

Spoiler

Imagine not being allowed to grind in an RPG that expects you to overcome a final boss that you can only safely beat (read safely as “this is the only way it’s possible”) with ranged moves is immune to psychic moves, meaning if you chose fenniken fuck you, restart the game, because the only one you learn by then is psybeam unless you somehow had the foresight to take flamethrower as a TM (if it’s possible to get, which I don’t remember) which has a shit PP and in a game where your base non-move attack does next to no damage at all levels (aka it’s worthless and shouldn’t have been programmed in if it’s gonna suck as bad as it does) means you’ll run out of PP like crazy and not take it because you want to maximize the amount of moves you can use before hitting the max elixir. In other words, don’t have the foresight to play the way the game wants you to instead of how you want to? Get fucked! PSMD is going in dry, motherfucker!

Oh, should we also mention that final boss had way too many stages? And all those stages are almost the same thing except they narrow down how you can beat said boss. Oh, should we also mention that if each stage has an unskippable cutscene? And they aren’t short. I lost to the boss and had to watch them over and over and over and over and gave up because the game doesn’t realize that it made it impossible for certain Pokémon you play as.

Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon is not difficult, it’s fake difficulty. The illusion of a challenge. There is no challenge when you don’t have a chance to learn from your mistakes and find a better way to do it aside from restarting the game, which is fucked.

 

[Disc]

Oh sweet, I found the rant my friend did of Super Mystery Dungeon last year. In spoiler tag for gameplay spoilers, but it's a warning for Fenneken players.

Spoiler

Imagine not being allowed to grind in an RPG that expects you to overcome a final boss that you can only safely beat (read safely as “this is the only way it’s possible”) with ranged moves is immune to psychic moves, meaning if you chose fenniken fuck you, restart the game, because the only one you learn by then is psybeam unless you somehow had the foresight to take flamethrower as a TM (if it’s possible to get, which I don’t remember) which has a shit PP and in a game where your base non-move attack does next to no damage at all levels (aka it’s worthless and shouldn’t have been programmed in if it’s gonna suck as bad as it does) means you’ll run out of PP like crazy and not take it because you want to maximize the amount of moves you can use before hitting the max elixir. In other words, don’t have the foresight to play the way the game wants you to instead of how you want to? Get fucked! PSMD is going in dry, motherfucker!

Oh, should we also mention that final boss had way too many stages? And all those stages are almost the same thing except they narrow down how you can beat said boss. Oh, should we also mention that if each stage has an unskippable cutscene? And they aren’t short. I lost to the boss and had to watch them over and over and over and over and gave up because the game doesn’t realize that it made it impossible for certain Pokémon you play as.

Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon is not difficult, it’s fake difficulty. The illusion of a challenge. There is no challenge when you don’t have a chance to learn from your mistakes and find a better way to do it aside from restarting the game, which is fucked.

Mystery Dungeon final bosses have always been a crapshoot mostly based on which pokemon you picked right at the start of the game. Choosing a grass type in the first game was always suffering.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I finally beat White 2 for the first time!

As I played through it, I was amazed at how stellar the music was. Together with Platinum's own pieces, I'm floored with how powerful the DS soundchip was.

Game Freak put their heart into this game, and I'm glad I got the chance to play it.

 

[Vapewizard]

Oh sweet, I found the rant my friend did of Super Mystery Dungeon last year. In spoiler tag for gameplay spoilers, but it's a warning for Fenneken players.

Spoiler

Imagine not being allowed to grind in an RPG that expects you to overcome a final boss that you can only safely beat (read safely as “this is the only way it’s possible”) with ranged moves is immune to psychic moves, meaning if you chose fenniken fuck you, restart the game, because the only one you learn by then is psybeam unless you somehow had the foresight to take flamethrower as a TM (if it’s possible to get, which I don’t remember) which has a shit PP and in a game where your base non-move attack does next to no damage at all levels (aka it’s worthless and shouldn’t have been programmed in if it’s gonna suck as bad as it does) means you’ll run out of PP like crazy and not take it because you want to maximize the amount of moves you can use before hitting the max elixir. In other words, don’t have the foresight to play the way the game wants you to instead of how you want to? Get fucked! PSMD is going in dry, motherfucker!

Oh, should we also mention that final boss had way too many stages? And all those stages are almost the same thing except they narrow down how you can beat said boss. Oh, should we also mention that if each stage has an unskippable cutscene? And they aren’t short. I lost to the boss and had to watch them over and over and over and over and gave up because the game doesn’t realize that it made it impossible for certain Pokémon you play as.

Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon is not difficult, it’s fake difficulty. The illusion of a challenge. There is no challenge when you don’t have a chance to learn from your mistakes and find a better way to do it aside from restarting the game, which is fucked.

I actually know someone else who mentioned being stuck there as Fennekin, but this gives it a lot more context aside from my initial assumption that it was a water dungeon. Yikes.

 

[Canned Bread]

Mystery Dungeon final bosses have always been a crapshoot mostly based on which pokemon you picked right at the start of the game. Choosing a grass type in the first game was always suffering.

I remember beating the game as Bulbasaur without too much trouble as a kid. But then again, that was on my second play through, so I did know what I was doing for the most part (Had to play through the entire game again since my initial save file got corrupted).

My only real complaint (dexit aside,, no way am I paying for the Home) is the game was a bit generous with xp and NPC healing... youd go through a route with 1 fainted pokemon and somebody would just heal your ass completely unsolicited. They even did this bit with the Elite 4, which makes sense looking back but it also meant I bought 20 revives for no reason. I always thought being economic with your resources was half the challenge of the E4

Yeah the games are incredibly easy for that reason. I was pretty overleveled for most of my play-through. Only time I basically wasn't after the first couple of gyms was for the championship match against Leon. What didn't help with that situation was that also enjoyed Pokemon Camp (I thought it was a pretty good improvement over Pokemon Aime/Refresh, and making Curry surprisingly really damn fun), and doing a lot of things in that gives your Pokemon even more EXP.

I never got far into Pokemon Sun, so I kinda want to finish it just to compare the difficulty of it to Pokemon Sword & Shield, but the problem is that my 3DS is dead and I can't find my charger. Would imagine that they should be pretty cheap now though, so wouldn't lose too much if I wanted a replacement.

Overall I'm in the same boat as you that I enjoyed myself more than I thought I would when playing the game, but at the same time, it's really fucking hard to look past some of the game's flaws.

 

[Vapewizard]

So now that I'm presumably out of the tutorial zone and have more freedom to do missions the addiction has definitely set in. As a collectionist it gives me a kick to see more pokemon unlocked in the connection orb who then spawn new missions to do, and the way the whole thing spreads out like a constellation. One thing I do find peculiar is that apparently they will just throw level 50 pokemon at you for free to use on missions. One unassuming pokemon mission just immediately unlocked all three members of team ACT from the original Mystery dungeon who are unstoppable killing machines at this point in the game. Also just a random-ass victini in a cafe who joined just by talking. I guess this is nerfed somewhat by them sometimes being unavailable after using them once.

 

[Duck_Wellington_500]

I started play pokemon in diamond and pearl. My best memories in this games is on black and white series (Gen 5 games). Ended play pokemon at Pokemon Moon.
Reason why stop playing the game?
Started to be a cash grab now and more focusing to quantity than quality
Favorite Pokemon?
Mareep Evolution Lines. The finest and fluffiest of all. The Og sheep pokemon. Ampharos is my fav from the lines

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Fanart By Daisy Peach on Amino

Will Never Forgive if Game Freak don't remake dp,and bw. Also bring the National dex back.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Started an Alpha Sapphire file for a mono Grass team. I always forget how hilariously broken Dexnav is. Like, hey, want a Tailow with Brave Bird or Boomburst before you even reach the first Gym? At any rate used it for an hour or so to get a Lotad with Giga Drain.

 

[Picklechu]

Started breeding Galarian Corsola for an Eviolite set last night. I was getting annoyed because I kept getting shit IVs, but then I remembered that I'm not doing a Hex set, meaning that both Atk and Sp. Atk are literally useless stats, which made things easier. If I want to be lazy and just use Poke Jobs (without Pokerus), it'll be done by the end of the week.

 

[Whitesnake]

Been replaying Gen 3, just completed LeafGreen and making my way through Emerald.

God damn do I love these games more than Gen 7/8

Only point I can give to the newer gens’ favor is that Gen 3’s lack of moves makes some pokemon practically unplayable. You need to get Cacnea all the way to level 41 (37 if you don’t evolve) for it to learn a single offensive Grass move. Sandslash can only learn good Ground moves through TMs.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Been replaying Gen 3, just completed LeafGreen and making my way through Emerald.

God damn do I love these games more than Gen 7/8

Only point I can give to the newer gens’ favor is that Gen 3’s lack of moves makes some pokemon practically unplayable. You need to get Cacnea all the way to level 41 (37 if you don’t evolve) for it to learn a single offensive Grass move. Sandslash can only learn good Ground moves through TMs.

You basically have to pray that TMs line up in a given mon's favor in the early gens for that reason. If that mon even gets any decent moves to begin with.

One of the (many) reasons why Psychic and Normal were busted in gen I, they were about the only types that got competent STAB.