Opinion ‘Poor Things’ is one of the most misogynistic films I’ve seen

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‘Poor Things’ is one of the most misogynistic films I’ve seen​

Poor Things, a movie with sex scenes so graphic it had to be reedited to comply with UK law, looks set to clean up at the Oscars.

This raunchy Victorian steampunk coming-of-age tale has been feted by critics as a feminist masterpiece, an epithet also applied to hit-of-last-year Barbie. Clearly the Academy prefers Poor Things, bestowing upon it 11 nominations as opposed to Barbie’s eight, giving Yorgos Lanthimos a nod for best director and Emma Stone for best actress while snubbing Barbie’s director Greta Gerwig and star Margot Robbie.

These decisions baffle me – but then, how anyone could describe Poor Things as feminist baffles me. In fact, I consider this bizarre film, with all its sex, gore and general weirdness, one of the most misogynistic movies I’ve watched in recent years.

Based on the novel by the late Alasdair Gray, Poor Things is a subversive spin on Frankenstein. Bella Baxter (played by Stone) appears to have learning difficulties but we soon learn that she recently, while pregnant, took her life. She has been reanimated by Willem Dafoe’s disfigured Dr Frankenstein character (Godwin Baxter, nicknamed God, for laughs) with the help of the transplanted brain of her unborn child. So Bella has a young woman’s body but a baby’s brain and God is keen to keep his experiment under lock and key, chloroforming her when she tries to escape and planning to marry her off to his assistant to retain control over her. But he hasn’t bargained on Bella’s buccaneering spirit and lust for life and what follows is a coming-of-age story that takes us from fin de siècleLondon to Lisbon, Amsterdam, and Paris.

Having seen Lanthimos’s The Favourite, I was expecting plenty of boisterous bawdiness. What I wasn’t expecting was a woman’s journey from childlike innocence to worldly maturity boiled down to, pretty much, just sex. Yet according to Poor Things, what a woman really wants – when you get rid of social pressures and let her be free – is to bonk her way around Europe. Conveniently, that also means that audiences get to ogle Stone’s naked body in a never-ending stream of sex scenes, and titter away as she plunges a cucumber inside her “hairy business” to “make herself happy”. The obvious puerile glee in all of this is off-putting to say the least.

But it was when Bella pitches up in Paris, broke, and decides to become a sex worker that the film really lost me. Watching the luminous Stone in flagrante delicto with a parade of potato men is sickening. But really, it was the film’s presentation of sex work as a jolly side hustle that made my brain hurt.

When she joins the brothel, she explains her reasoning to the madam. “I have examined my situation,” she says, in her distinctive Bella-speak. “I need sex and money. I could take a lover… who would keep me, but may require an awful lot of attention or it’s 20 minutes at a time and the rest of my day is free to study.” And then we launch into a flurry of graphic sex scenes. Bella having sex with a man in front of his two sons as some sort of perverse sexual education (it was this scene that the British Board of Film Classifications ordered to be edited), Bella hanging from a ceiling with a bit in her mouth as a man humps her leg. This is interspersed with scenes of Bella taking anatomy classes at medical school and walking arm-in-arm with a fellow sex worker who she is also sleeping with – for enjoyment, not money, we assume.

This ludicrous imagining of sex work in a mysteriously disease-free brothel as the perfect engine for Bella’s exploration of the world and its ways is so outlandish and naive that it borders on the offensive. And what a male fantasy it is! Left to her own devices and free from societal shame, what do you know, the natural woman is a raging nymphomaniac up for sex at any time with anyone (no matter how potato-y) and hey, why not earn some dosh while she’s at it?

For all the focus on sex, I did note that there wasn’t a single mention of menstruation in this female bildungsroman. Orgasms play better on screen than periods, that’s for sure.

Poor Things is beautifully made, with fabulous costumery and sets, gorgeously shot, supremely acted, but what a phoney this film is. To see its (male) director nominated for an Oscar while Gerwig, who made a sincere attempt to show the female experience on screen with film Barbie, is passed over is a difficult pill to swallow.

To every critic lauding Poor Things as a feminist masterpiece: give me a break.
 
I read the wikipedia summary and it sounds like a tug film for people too repressed to look at porn online.

And to argue with @Tasty Tatty , not to go too deep on this but who is "allowed" to fuck outside of marriage has always been a social question.

Soldiers and sailors in the Greatest Generation fucked their way across three continents, and some of it was with free and consenting women and some of it was in really terrible brothels. The Japs in particular imported Korean women because they didn't want Americans fucking Japanese women. A woman in such a whorehouse could fuck 50 guys a day.

A couple days ago I was sperging on here about slaves and how much white-on-black rape there was. For rich men in the antebellum South, it was part of their culture to try to fuck as many women as possible. I'm not making this up, it's right there in "Albion's Seed." (The title is not a reference to white man spooge.) Gentlemen's journals of the day were full of their sexual conquests, and they were not particular. The joke at the time was that a virgin was a girl who could out-run her uncle.

Much like fucking has always been with us, abortion has always been with us and always will be. Women crossing the Great Plains in pioneer days brought abortifacient herbal tinctures with them because you don't want your teen daughter getting knocked up by a loser on the trail. Talk to an older woman and they all have stories of friends who got raging infections after back-alley abortions.

Roe vs. Wade didn't create the market for abortions, it just made abortions much safer than they had been.
 
Poor Things is beautifully made, with fabulous costumery and sets, gorgeously shot, supremely acted
lmao she may be a 🌸feminist🌸 but she's a journo too so she must praise something about this atrocity

Poor Things is a pedophile fantasy. We call for woodchippers when pedophiles trot out "really 1000 years old" toddlers; this is a live-action take on same, still babyfuck but a baby brain in an adult body so it can be played by an adult actress. It's still not awwright. Everyone who likes or defends it should be raped and murdered.

Sex is an important part of maturity
It's not. I'm sorry that your dad told you this.
 
No. This is a female fantasy. Women and their incel followers fantasize about consequence free "sex work,"
they negrated him because he spoke the truth
prostitution being glorified as ~liberating and empowering~ is 100% a feminist thing, nobody else entertains these moronic ideas (except russell greer lmao)
 
For all the focus on sex, I did note that there wasn’t a single mention of menstruation in this female bildungsroman. Orgasms play better on screen than periods, that’s for sure.
Stupid bint doesn't know this, but this is why periods are being talked about more and more in children's cartoons. They can't get away with animating pre-teens having orgasms yet.
 
I did note that there wasn’t a single mention of menstruation in this female bildungsroman. Orgasms play better on screen than periods, that’s for sure.
They are utterly obsessed with their own menstruation. When Jizzus Christ fills several bottles with his fluids he gets some admiration, but he is generally regarded as a pervert. When a feminist does something with her old tampons and menstrual blood, they're lobbying to have it put in the Guggenheim.
 
For all the focus on sex, I did note that there wasn’t a single mention of menstruation in this female bildungsroman. Orgasms play better on screen than periods, that’s for sure.
Why the ever-loving FUCK are feminist types so obsessed with periods? Not only is it gross bodily waste, but I imagine most women aren't happy about getting them either due to the cramps and hormones fucking over their body every month, not to mention the hygiene products burning a hole in their bank accounts.

Seriously, what is it? I don't understand why this topic keeps coming up. The only answer I seem to hear from them is "it's natural," but so is taking a dump, and I reckon they're not eager to hear about my bowel movements any time soon. Body positivity? No one outside of third-world shitholes are blaming women for their menstrual cycle. I cannot fathom a reason to discuss this outside of private conversations with your girlfriend, a doctor, or your daughter going through puberty.
 
And what a male fantasy it is!
A woman having lots of sex doesn't automatically make it a male fantasy you hack.

Why the ever-loving FUCK are feminist types so obsessed with periods?
Their obsessed because they're cunt worshipers. They view cunt as something holy and sacred. "Women create all life" and other assorted bullshit. Some of them even use the term goddess unironically. If they had been born, 3,000 years ago during the bronze age, they would have founded a cult of the great cunt and bathed in menstrual blood as some sort of sacrament.
 
I have not read the article, but I will only say that as a fan of Lanthimos' last two movies (The Lobster and The Favourite) I was so put off by the trailer for Poor Things that I vowed not to see it.
It is a WEIRD movie. I really liked Willem Dafoe in it.

It has some really odd camera angles and shots but overall I liked it.


Also LMAO at this woman getting asshurt that the attractive young (ish) woman in the movie makes bank in a French whorehouse and doesn't really complain about it
 
Their obsessed because they're cunt worshipers. They view cunt as something holy and sacred. "Women create all life" and other assorted bullshit. Some of them even use the term goddess unironically. If they had been born, 3,000 years ago during the bronze age, they would have founded a cult of the great cunt and bathed in menstrual blood as some sort of sacrament.
And yet, they hate motherhood and babies.
 
I just realized Emma Stone and Emma Watson aren't the same person. There goes any reason to ever want to watch this movie.
 
I love zombie girls but reanimating her with her dead fetus's brain is an odd take. The costumes and stuff look good but the sex crap sounds gratuitous. I'll probably watch it and skip the sex scenes. Frankenfran will always beat this.
 
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