Disaster Possible multi-national airstrike on Syria expected in the next 72 hours - "I don't want to set the worrrld on firrreeee~"

Europe's air traffic control network has warned commercial aircraft to avoid Syrian airspace due to a possible strike being planned in the next 72 hours.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/9...-uk-france-chemical-attack-russia-eurocontrol

DEFCON has been lowered to 4 over reports of military amassing air forces and the potential risks of a Russia vs. U.S. conflict.
https://defconwarningsystem.com/2018/04/10/defcon-warning-system-update-4-10-18/

Supposedly the British RAF is on alert in Cyprus.

There's also unconfirmed reports of the U.S. moving missile cruisers around in the Mediterranean and aircraft in Eastern Iraq.

 

[TiggerNits]

Putin apparently did when he annexed Crimea.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nfrontation-over-crimea-idUSKBN0MB0GV20150315

He was more likely to get one of Georgia. Obama didn't even have the balls to say "Nuclear" unless he was advocating against it. G Dub otoh supposedly sent a message to Russia that amounted to "Punishing Tbilisi doesn't seem like its worth cratering Moscow" and the conflict ended

 

[AmpleApricots]

Trump most of all has a really big mouth. Remember fire and fury and north korea? That was a big nothingburger too. Then people shit their pants over a false nuke alert. The problem is, when great powers act that way, everyone across the entire world gets more trigger happy and skittish. It sets a tone. This in turn increases the chance that somebody standing on the frontlines in a uniform actually ends up pressing a button in a split-sectond decision that makes people die. It's a dangerous game. Putin has been getting more unreasonable and paranoid in the last few years too, last thing that guy needs is reasons.

 

[It's HK-47]

Trump most of all has a really big mouth. Remember fire and fury and north korea? That was a big nothingburger too. Then people shit their pants over a false nuke alert. The problem is, when great powers act that way, everyone across the entire world gets more trigger happy and skittish. It sets a tone. This in turn increases the chance that somebody standing on the frontlines in a uniform actually ends up pressing a button in a split-sectond decision that makes people die. It's a dangerous game. Putin has been getting more unreasonable and paranoid in the last few years too, last thing that guy needs is reasons.

What sort of split-second decisions are being made over a press release or a Tweet, exactly? I realize panic is in vogue right now, but what sorts of actions apart from those two scenarios has he ever taken that would elicit that sort of response? I don't mean to offend but there's really more "Hollywood" in this sort of train of thought than there is reality. A thermonuclear war is a particularly difficult thing to kick-off in general, if history thus-far is any indication, and no one's going to start one because someone called someone else "Fat Boy" over social media.

They're applying a certain level of political pressure, but it's more-importantly functioning as an enormous, saber-rattling distraction that keeps everyone from the media outlets to the foreign military focused directly on him, and what he's alleging is going to happen, but think about this: When has anything that he's alluded to or anything that he's "threatened" in one of these Tweets actually occurred?

There's absolutely no sense whatsoever in telegraphing your specific intentions to an opposing power, so why in the Hell would he keep making it look like he's doing exactly that? If you were playing a game of chess, would you constantly tell the person on the other side of the board what move you were going to make next and then make that move, or would you tell them you're moving to B3--knowing that they're going to believe you--and then slide over to E6, instead?

I'm genuinely at something of a loss, because I've watched so many people go through this exact, same routine dozens upon dozens of times and it's baffling me as to how people still seem to be so confused. When it comes to any sort of offensive strategy, be it political or military, I do not understand why people keep interpreting him so literally.

 

[wheeliescootermain]

Maybe he’s trying to ‘condition’ his opponents into over-predicting his next move or just praying they take the bait...?

Oh, who am I kidding, this is probably going to blow up in his face one way or another.

 

[It's HK-47]

Oh, who am I kidding, this is probably going to blow up in his face one way or another.

And, ironically and appropriately due to a motor-scooter, the cycle continues.

 

[AbuIstimnaAlKekistani]

And what of the US's major allies like the UK? Are they simply caught in the crossfire, or are they high priority to Russia too?

They may be more fucked than the US if American allies get involved. The Russians may consider it a viable option to concentrate retaliation against states that participate in the attack that aren't the US in hopes of avoiding an escalation. So Akrotiri and other UK facilities may be high priority,

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

They may be more fucked than the US if American allies get involved. The Russians may consider it a viable option to concentrate retaliation against states that participate in the attack that aren't the US in hopes of avoiding an escalation. So Akrotiri and other UK facilities may be high priority,

That's probably it, considering the US is disclosing where they'll strike to Russia, and the UK and France are still wild cards at this point in time.

 

[Don Kang]

Anyone else been hearing siren testing in their area? I swear this is the third time I've heard the air raid sirens go off since yesterday morning, and that shit never gets tested that frequently. I don't think it's time to panic yet, but it sure is suspect.

 

[Warden Cross]

Anyone else been hearing siren testing in their area? I swear this is the third time I've heard the air raid sirens go off since yesterday morning, and that shit never gets tested that frequently. I don't think it's time to panic yet, but it sure is suspect.

Lots of people are tense over this right now. It's likely that they're just taking extra precaution in the wake of this fiasco, regardless of whether or not anything will actual happen. I haven't noticed anything where I am, but it seems reasonable enough that places in more "risk" in the event of an attack would want to make extra sure their shit's in order now that the (unlikely) possibility of catastrophe is on everyone's minds.

 

[Tranhuviya]

 

[Jack Haywood]

Oh, Jesus. There should be a head on desk with puddle of tears on aforementioned desk rating for crap like this

 

[wheeliescootermain]

I can’t help but feel like the whole idea of “IS DA JOOOOOOZ!!!!” is just bullshit. There’s this whole Illuminati-esque group of people running the global scene, and the only thing people know is that they’re Jewish? Maybe I’m just overly skeptical, but I think there would have to be way more to it beyond just what religion someone practices... Then again, this is Ben Garrison we’re talking about.

 

[Computery Guy]

Hey, look, everyone knows the BIG RED BUTTON is literally just that. A button that Trump could just knock his soda onto at any moment. And then all the nukes everywhere get launched and we either die or everyone becomes awesome Fallout raiders.

There aren't advisors, multiple tiers of activation, ways for it to stop midway, nah. Trump just goes "bombs", presses a button, and we all die.

Would Hollywood lie to us?

 

[It's HK-47]

In retrospect, it's really kind of funny that the Left and the Right don't really remember this happening, as a whole. There wasn't even really much a stink about it. Hell, I remember a buttload of the Regressives actually cheering it on, but now that it's literally The Donald ""saying"" that Syria is going to be bombed, suddenly it's the worst thing since unsliced bread.

You know, the Russians tried to bomb a Syrian oil field that we were defending. That didn't end too great for them. It's really, really weird that the Western media doesn't really talk about the Deir ez-Zor massacre, though. You'd think that ~300+ Russians being blown up in a single day would be bigger news.

 

[Iodised Ant]

I really wish global leaders would cut this shit out. I have video games to finish.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

In retrospect, it's really kind of funny that the Left and the Right don't really remember this happening, as a whole. There wasn't even really much a stink about it. Hell, I remember a buttload of the Regressives actually cheering it on, but now that it's literally The Donald ""saying"" that Syria is going to be bombed, suddenly it's the worst thing since unsliced bread.

You know, the Russians tried to bomb a Syrian oil field that we were defending. That didn't end too great for them. It's really, really weird that the Western media doesn't really talk about the Deir ez-Zor massacre, though. You'd think that ~300+ Russians being blown up in a single day would be bigger news.

How does that make this better?

 

[It's HK-47]

How does that make this better?

It's hypocrisy and hypocrisy always makes me laugh. We're not going to kick-off a full-blown Libya 2.0 anyways, so I'm not worried about it. Honestly the only reason why everyone's panicking so much is because they just haven't really been paying attention. They've done the exact, same damn thing every single time and then nothing happened, and beyond that nobody even knows who the GCC are yet, so I'm not worried. If more people were aware of what Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council have been working on setting up for years, now, then more people would be far less nervous.

We're not going to get involved in some massive, Afghanistan-style, boots-on-the-ground war, so relax. Here, I'll even try again, maybe you'll get a giggle out of this one, instead:

 

[ZeCommissar]

What sort of split-second decisions are being made over a press release or a Tweet, exactly? I realize panic is in vogue right now, but what sorts of actions apart from those two scenarios has he ever taken that would elicit that sort of response? I don't mean to offend but there's really more "Hollywood" in this sort of train of thought than there is reality. A thermonuclear war is a particularly difficult thing to kick-off in general, if history thus-far is any indication, and no one's going to start one because someone called someone else "Fat Boy" over social media.

They're applying a certain level of political pressure, but it's more-importantly functioning as an enormous, saber-rattling distraction that keeps everyone from the media outlets to the foreign military focused directly on him, and what he's alleging is going to happen, but think about this: When has anything that he's alluded to or anything that he's "threatened" in one of these Tweets actually occurred?

There's absolutely no sense whatsoever in telegraphing your specific intentions to an opposing power, so why in the Hell would he keep making it look like he's doing exactly that? If you were playing a game of chess, would you constantly tell the person on the other side of the board what move you were going to make next and then make that move, or would you tell them you're moving to B3--knowing that they're going to believe you--and then slide over to E6, instead?

I'm genuinely at something of a loss, because I've watched so many people go through this exact, same routine dozens upon dozens of times and it's baffling me as to how people still seem to be so confused. When it comes to any sort of offensive strategy, be it political or military, I do not understand why people keep interpreting him so literally.

Except saying "im going to do this" publicly and not doing it isn't really a strategy. If someone tells me "i'm moving to B3", and then moves to E6 instead, i'm going to go "You lied?......that's not surprising." This isn't Trump making false military documents and handing them over to a suspected spy, this is Trump tweeting "lol missile strike" where everyone can see it. It's not surprising that a few people see this and take it seriously.

I highly doubt a new war or anything will come out of all of this, but hey you might as laugh at this moment while it lasts.

 

[AutistocLolCow]

So hang on guys..

Trump had announced that the US was leaving the place.
Thus pretty much giving a clean victory to Putin forces and Assad.
Assad would just need to wage a few more months of conventional war to wipe out the "freedom fighters" (aka paid terrorists) that remained.
Then out of nowhere, Israel conducts and Airstrike and suddenly Assad "gassed" innocents.

That doesn't remotely sounds plausible AT ALL.

The only ones who would have lost(politically, strategically and militarily) in this maneouver would be Israel and maybe Saudi Arabia.
Thus...I'm pretty sure that Israel would not leave Syria in the hands of Russia and Iran interests just like that. They put a lot of effort into wiping clean any enemies of them with silent strategic airstrikes while Russia and the USA were the loud ones. Not only in Syria, but also in other nearby states that were affected by the "spring revolution".

Assad as zero reason of throwing WDMs considering that without US support, he can easily wipe the opposition.
Thus using by pure logic and past behaviour. Its clear that this is a false flag attack perpetrated by Israel to give an excuse to NATO (akin to the "Iraq whistle-blower" who was pressured a lot to give fake information of WDMs in Iraq to give Bush Jr his invasion) to initiate a "moral" reason to convince their population that Assad is the next Hitler and thus he needs to be removed.

Unlike other states like Libya. I don't think Syria is going to go down as easy as the NATO thinks.
Specially since Russia supposedly has very important military bases in Syria. The same way that Russia was in no way going to lose strategic positions (like Sevastopol in Ukraine by a Coup'd'Etat promoted by CIA agents)

So I would not be surprised if there even bigger movement of military forces of all the nations if they push forward for full fledge war.

But hey! who cares about the Syrians.. they probably lost millions of people already on friendly fire and random attacks that were not military.

 

[Adolf Von Merkel]

In retrospect, it's really kind of funny that the Left and the Right don't really remember this happening, as a whole. There wasn't even really much a stink about it. Hell, I remember a buttload of the Regressives actually cheering it on, but now that it's literally The Donald ""saying"" that Syria is going to be bombed, suddenly it's the worst thing since unsliced bread.

You know, the Russians tried to bomb a Syrian oil field that we were defending. That didn't end too great for them. It's really, really weird that the Western media doesn't really talk about the Deir ez-Zor massacre, though. You'd think that ~300+ Russians being blown up in a single day would be bigger news.

I remember last year when the left cheer trump bc he bomb assad. The few critics were " it was a fake attack".
I think now are shitting his pant because a world war isn't a game (and can't use refugee in that one).