Prepping and General Emergency Preparedness - Preparing for the worst, hoping for the best.

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Are you a longtime prepper or brand new? Let's talk about preparedness and help each other out.

It's never too late to start, even though inflationary forces are making it financially more difficult every day to do so, if you've never prepped, the time to begin is now.

You must, must have a three month food supply on hand for you, your family, and pets. When you attain that goal, don't stop. Keep going.

There are a lot of charts and calculators online that will tell you how much you need. Don't look at them. They will only discourage you. Think about what you require to eat twice daily to survive for one week. Do you need three pounds of rice? Two pounds of oats? Five cans of meat? Multiply one week's worth by twelve. The total is your three month supply. Keep this in mind: store what you eat, and eat what you store. If you hate peas, don't store them.

Of course there are the staples of dried beans, rice, oats, powdered milk, flour, barley, pasta, but also think of things like canned and dried vegetables, jams, sweeteners, spices, tomato powder, cocoa powder, coffee, bullions, leaveners, FATS, etc. These are the things that will make it all palatable and keep you from eating a bullet instead - if you can find the ammo.

Buy Ammo

I don't want to get into politics with this, but ammo is hard to get and increasingly expensive due to several factors - none of them good. If you are unfamiliar with firearms or are afraid of them, please seek out training. Almost every gun range has courses just for women to educate them on firearms. The more you know, the more comfortable you will feel and the less afraid you will be. Every woman should be armed regardless of social, economic, and political climates.


Storage

Long term! Short term! Omg Mylar bags, oxygen absorbers, and buckets!

Be very wary of Mylar bags sold on Amazon. Many of them use metalized plastic or sprayed on aluminum as the middle layer. You want something with a solid film of aluminum between the plastic. Your food is now safe from light, air, insect invasion, spoilage and with an O2 absorber, it can be viable, nutritious, and flavorful for over 20 years.

Fill your bags with as much as they can hold. With the absorber and a heat seal, this will give you a vacuum pack in appearance. If the bag does not brick up, then the absorber is a dud or there was a breach in the seal. I don't care what YT "experts" say. Rebag it.

BONUS: If there were any insects or eggs in your food, the absence of oxygen will kill them/prevent them from hatching.

Make sure your buckets are food safe if you're going to store loose wheat berries or oats or whatnot. Get the lids with a gasket in them.

Vacuum sealing. Yes! Just be aware that unlike Mylar, all plastic has a slow seep, so periodically check your packs for soundness and store them in a dark place. This won't really give you the decades of freshness like Mylar + O2 absorbers can, but it will greatly extend the shelf life of any dry good by many, many years.

Mason jars. Excellent for both short and mid term storage (and of course canning). If you can afford to buy them new and can find them, grab them. Hunt thrift stores for them. If you don't have a jar attachment for your vacuum sealer, an O2 absorber inside will pull a vacuum and nothing is left but nitrogen.

Equipment

Buy an alcohol stove or learn how to make one! These can be used indoors if necessary. Isopropyl can be used in a pinch, but denatured alcohol is ideal. It burns super clean with no soot. In a grid down situation this will be invaluable. You can cook and boil water for drinking and hygiene.

Learn how to make a solar cooker out of nothing but cardboard and tin foil!

Dehydrators. There are basic models like this and the one I own like this. You can sometimes find them in thrift stores. Get one. Shop sales and farmers markets. Did you know you can dehydrate RoTel for long term storage? Yes ma'am you can. Make sure your final product is bone dry. For storing long term, your food must be under 10% moisture.

Things to dry and store: potatoes, green beans, peas, celery, carrots, onions, garlic, zucchini, peppers both sweet and hot, corn, tomatoes, mushrooms, cabbage, apples, strawberries and more! Some of these require blanching first and some do not. All of these things will add nutrition and flavor to your emergency staples as well as stretching them. Pro tip: frozen vegetables are pre-blanched.

Grain mills. Man, these are expensive. But if you wish to store wheat berries and other grains, you will need one. Flour in the absence of oxygen is good for five years, but whole grains properly stored are good indefinitely. Consider one that can grind both grain and beans. If you're physically able to use a manual model, get one that has a flywheel. They're much easier to operate. This will serve you very well in a grid down event.

If you have the space and climate, grow things. Even if it's just a few pots on a balcony or herbs in a window, then preserve them.

Get started by buying some extra cans, or a case of ramen, or potato flakes every week. Every week. There is a dire shortage of fertilizer and the price has tripled since January with no ceiling in sight. No fertilizer=no food. Add to that hyperinflation, labor shortages, gas prices, supply chain issues, an open, undeclared war with Russia and top down mismanagement by abject incompetents of various degrees of evil and shit is hitting the fan, my friends.

Do everything in your financial and physical power to look after yourselves, your family, and those who cannot take care of themselves. Work hard. Don't stop. Time is running out.

What are you doing? What do you want to know? What knowledge can you impart? I've kept this OP mainly focused on food preparedness, but let's talk about all areas of prepping for the very bad times ahead.
 
Don't we have one of these threads already?


What knowledge can you impart?

Pressure canning. I have no idea why pressure canning isn't in the OP.

You can can chili, pasta sauce, ham and bean soup, stir fry mix, chicken soup, brined chicken, a whole guinea hen, sweet potatoes, potatoes, green beans, chicken stock, meat itself, and more. The best part is you can eat it whenever you want. It's the ultimate american concept: self sufficiency combined with instant gratification/variety.

Pressure canning is incredibly easy, the food lasts a long time, the food can still taste good, and is cost effective if you incorporate the canned food into your food rotation. There is so much documentation from universities that you can't screw up. Getting into pressure canning isn't that expensive. $150 with the canner being 2/3 of that. You can pick up meat on sale/managers special and make soup out of it. It is less expensive than buying dehydrated meat and you get to control the ingredients/taste.

Canners go for ~$100. The All American canner is made of cast aluminum and requires no gasket which makes them lifetime purchases. but they cost $250+ and the largest ones can break glass tops. If you can a lot and over multiple years, they are amazing. Cans cost around $1-1.50 ea when you buy packs of 12 and lids go anywhere from $0.75 to $1.50 ea. You can find lids on ebay in bulk for cheaper than amazon sometimes.
Only buy Ball and Anchor Hocking(both the same company, iirc) jars and lids unless you find another american manufacturer. There are chinky lids and jars out there but I dont trust them at all, especially the lids.
As for lid size, it's a preference. I prefer wide mouth because the small mouths are a pain to fill with potato pieces.

Pressure canning requires:
Jars
Lids
Canner
Stove
Funnel
Jar lifter

What you can:
Meats
Vegetables
Stock

What you CANt:
Grains
Thick foods(mashed potatoes)
Fragile things like peppers. You must boil can them.

Random info:
  • You can tap the top of the lid to hear if it's sealed. You'll hear a hollow sound.
  • Don't leave the bands on. If something goes wrong in the can, the pressure can increase and then decrease. The band will keep it sealed during that time and you won't know something happened until you eat it or maybe smell it.
  • Canned beans will become mushy but presoaked beans will absorb water even after canning, making the can look dry on the inside. You can see with with the chili in the photo. It's still safe but it may taste off. Presoak for a lot longer and cook the beans a little before canning.
  • Keep the cans out of light. Light will degrade the food.
  • Use ascorbic acid when canning certain foods like apples and potatoes. It prevents them from browning.

For recipes to get a gist of what you can do, look up pressure canning on zLibrary.
This site has a ton of trustworthy information instead of reading some cooking lady's blog: https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/uga/using_press_canners.html
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A good food preservation resource: https://nchfp.uga.edu/

Water filtration is cheap enough and there are small filters for hiking. My personal favorites are the ones where the dirty water is in the bag and you squeeze the water through the filter in the cap. Then again the water here is neither warm nor slow moving so it's pretty clean anyways.

Someone in another thread mentioned an article/book that addressed urban survival. People can stock up on food and weapons but what do you do when the garbage man doesn't come? Where do you defecate?

Also spare glasses. Zenni has them super cheap so you can get some for $25 and leave them with emergency supplies just in case.
 
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Get a gravity water filter, a really good one. You can gently hand wash the fancy filters and they will last a long fkn time. I own an Alexapure water filter system. It cost me almost $500 from My Patriot Supply but it needs no external power input, just gravity, which is a renewable resource. Do you own research. Just remember that some dumbass piece of shit Brita filter will be useless if you are ever at a point where you have to take water out of a standing body of water like a pond, lake, or whatever.
 
Don't we have one of these threads already?
We do, but there isn't an OP, the thread died a year ago and is full of shitposts, and many people in BP tend to be less curious about the outer regions of the farms.
Pressure canning. I have no idea why pressure canning isn't in the OP.
Canning is fucking awesome, and quintessentially North American. It's just a less accessible option for many people, unfortunately. There's a big learning curve, economic factors, and storage considerations because this isn't the 1940s. It's a very useful skill, and I hope people will create the opportunity to learn it (it's not hard!). Having shelf stable meat on hand is a life saver.

Every "homesteader" on YT is shilling these forjars lids. They come out to .29 a lid for 120 of them which is a huge savings. They all swear by them, but they all have affiliate codes and sponsorships, so I'm less inclined to trust their word.

I'm more concerned with what people can do right now, immediately. Everyone can buy and store extra pasta, rice, canned vegetables and tuna today before food becomes a luxury item. Flour went up .25/lb in my region in just one week.

I love those squeeze bag water filters. People should also take a minute to identify water sources in their area. Lakes, rivers, creeks, etc., and learn the different methods of water sterilization.
 
If you live near an LDS Cannery, they're invaluable resources. They're now called Home Storage Centers.
Additionally, medications, sanitary wear. Consider a supply of something like tranexamix acid is safe for you for extreme emergency situations if your period is especially obstructive.

Possibly luxury items which are extremely portable for trading - few pouches of tobacco. That's pushing into extreme situation territory though, thinking about stuff like that.

And weapons are useless unless you're competent and comfortable with them. Learn some form of self-defense.
If you have children teach them how to behave. As in, if you tell them, "fucking do the thing", they do it. Too many movies piss me off, because you see puling brats refusing to take an order in an emergency situation.

On kids: If you have them,have a fire escape plan for your home. Guess where most kids are found post house fire. Dead, usually under the bed or in a closet.

Don't potter along with your life assuming it won't happen to you. Better to plan and be ready, than caught unaware and losing your loved ones because you're too chickenshit to deal with an uncomfortable conversation with your kids.


Those snivelling, spineless shitheads who whinge "bUt LeT kIdS bE kIdS!!11111!!"? When their kid dies in an emergency situation because they weren't prepared or didn't listen? They're gonna be kids forever. Congratufuckinlations, I guess?
 
I'm not a prepper beyond basic stuff like keeping a few cases of water and batteries and canned food for emergencies, but i suggest learning various textile skills like spinning, weaving, sewing and mending. Electric sewing machines can still be hand cranked in the absence of power, and old treadle powered ones require no electricity at all. If you cannot buy fabric, spinning and weaving is how you make it, and wheels and looms are mechanical.
 
On kids: If you have them,have a fire escape plan for your home.
Fire escape plans also need to include instructions on how to break windows and tear out screens, and kids need to know that in an emergency they have permission to do this. (but only in emergencies.)

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If you have the money for it, get a freezer. I got a little 7 cubic foot Frigidaire chest freezer over 20 years ago and it has been the best thing. It helps me be able to take advantage of sales, store garden produce, and is a good place to put dry goods like flour, corn meal, dry pasta etc to keep weevils out.

Currently Lowes has one like mine for $321.43. Everyone want to be just like me, right? Go shopping! lol
 
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Canning is amazing but you bougie cunts need to know you can't can non-acidic things like meat soups in an instant pot or ninja foodie. You must use a stovetop pressure canner (or.stovetop.pressure cooker it's the same thing just smaller.) Electric cookers can't be relied upon to reach the required 15 PSI.
 
Get chickens! Chickens need very little space to forage and thrive. Even just four to six chickens will keep you sitting pretty with eggs, they're practically no work, and they'll eat ticks, too. Plus if you're in a place where you can have a rooster they'll have a self-sustaining flock and are an easily raised, easily processable and cheap meat source.
 
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Get chickens! Chickens need very little space to forage and thrive. Even just four to six chickens will keep you sitting pretty with eggs, they're practically no work, and they'll eat ticks, too. Plus if you're in a place where you can have a rooster they'll have a self-sustaining flock and are an easily raised, easily processable and cheap meat source.
You can also raise quail or meat pigeons if childrens are illegal in your area.
 
Cash, and in small denominations. Surviving fires, blizzards, earthquakes, floods, and hurricanes will be easier as at least few stores are always mercenary enough to open despite no electricity but will only process cash.

Keeping your car tanked up with gas as much as possible can be a life(style) saver in most emergency situations. If possible you can escape to safer area.

And a portable fire/water proof safe/storage for personal documents (birth certificates, passports, social security cards, copies of drivers licenses, bank accounts etc) serves well if you remember to take with you if evacuating. If you have trusted family/friend in other regions ask them to safe keep
copies of said documents on a dedicated flash drive. It will make replacing lost originals much easier.

Finally, in case of nuclear attack you’re fucked unless your city has subway and you’re already there or are a student and can tuck and cover under a desk.
 
Anyone have any tips/a shopping list to build a good first aid kit?
Gauze, something to act as a tourniquet, tweezers, scalpel, super glue, antibiotic cream, alcohol in some form, pain relievers, hydrogen peroxide, bandaids, tape, iodine, eye wash, cortisone cream, medicated powder, needle and thread, small scissors. Something for nausea and diarrhea. Tea tree oil has anti-fungal and anti-microbial properties and is very useful.

Hit your dollar store. Much of this stuff can be had for a fraction of the price of other retailers. You could get kitted out with most of that for around 20 bucks.
 
Good opening salvo. Interested to know how other people prep.
The buckets you need for food storage need to be the "white FOOD GRADE" only. Anything made from recycled plastic is just nasty.
Im going to eventually get a Berkey gravity water filter, but for now, when I go on hikes, I take my lifestraw. Been working out pretty ok.
Keep cash backup! Dont keep large amounts in the bank. Dont travel with large amounts in your car (civil forefeture).
My past time recently has been watching mechanical maintenance and bushcraft survival videos. Fun to watch and goo info to have in the future. If youre like me, get a few books on this stuff so you can reference them when it goes to shit.
Anyone have any tips/a shopping list to build a good first aid kit?
Electrolyte tablets (online only) or powder (most stores), benedryl (dollar tree), gauzes, medical tape, soap (prefer to keep dial for this purpose, cleans nicely), gloves, trashbags, ducttape, tampons for deep holes (not just for periods), iodine tablets, use filtered water for eye washes, stypic pencil/powder (helps to stop minor cuts from bleeding). In a pinch you can make a cast with craft store plaster of paris sheets, my mother made a cast for a cat one time (brutal). Vaseline is great for scrape or burn barrier; should never be used on deep wounds.
Learn how to promote better healing for various wounds: wound closure with tapes, wet healing, when to let a wound dry out, how to notice infection.
For burns specifically, if you start getting some redness, take a bleach bath (like 1-2 cups of bleach for a whole bathtub, soak for 15-20 mins).

Cannings lids can be gotten at almost any store, what makes those online ones better?
 
Gentleladies, could I request tips on small space prepping? I'm talking dormatories, trailer parks, apartments, condos, etc.
Sorry for double posting.
Get a 30 gallon plastic container and be able to grab it and go. I live in a tiny house and have an emergency box that im ready to throw in the car. Dont worry about clothes, only essential medical, documents, and dry food. Train your animals to come to you and crate/box train them. I specifically have my cat trained for this reason. Reinforce the training and keep it up, you need to practice it just as much as they need to.
 
Dont travel with large amounts [of cash] in your car (civil forefeture).
The simple trick is to get a cashier's check made out instead, if you're doing legal things like buying used cars. If you're not doing legal things, my advice would be don't get caught.

Of course, this implies a bank, so it's not useful after the world ends, but the world has surprisingly not ended yet so it'll do for now.
 
For rentfags with no space to grow produce: learn how to forage. Find out what's edible to forage in your region and in what season. Learn to spot potentially poisonous plants. Most poisonous plants will just give you diarrhea, but that's potential for dehydration and infection if there's no running water. Dandelions are a good beginner plant: easy to spot, grows everywhere, and every part of the plant can be eaten except the flower when it's gone to seed (the fuzzy bit). The best way to get the taproot out is with a filet knife. Even in developed areas I've seen wild mint, violets, spring onions, and cattails. These may be regional, but the point is that nature finds a way.

Learn how to clean small game like squirrels and rabbits. Depending on where you are, learning how to clean and butcher a deer might also be practical. This is a skill more for longterm crises, but better to learn now than wait.

Keep rags. Old washcloths, towels, and shirts can be torn or cut into rags. Baking soda is cheap (for now), can be bought in bulk, and has many uses including washing hair or cleaning teeth.
 
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