Culture Pro-life groups need to defend birthright citizenship - "Remaining silent on the issue of birthright citizenship would betray our movement's highest values because there is nothing pro-life about ending it. Life begins at conception, but it doesn't end at birth."

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BY MICHAEL SEAN WINTERS

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President-elect Donald Trump stated he plans to end birthright citizenship, which is currently guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. The pro-life movement, which is as significant a part of the GOP base as the anti-immigrant caucus, needs to step up and oppose any attempt to end the conferral of citizenship on those born in the United States.

The foundational argument of the pro-life movement is that all life is sacred, and that once you start parsing who is, and who is not, entitled to certain rights, you are halfway down a slippery moral slope. All human beings, as human beings, should enjoy the same rights as every other human being.

The relationship of abortion policy to immigration policy might seem counterintuitive. The 14th Amendment doesn't help the pro-life cause. It refers to "All persons born or naturalized in the United States ..." Pro-choice groups argue that a human being only has a right to life once it is born, but once born, the rights that are conferred on the person are sacrosanct.

Those who drafted and enacted the 14th Amendment were not addressing the moral and legal issues surrounding abortion, and they didn't have sonograms in 1866 when members of Congress began drafting the amendment after President Andrew Johnson vetoed the Civil Rights Act that year.

The drafters of the 14th Amendment aimed to extend the equal protection of the laws to those formerly enslaved. They knew that the framers of the original Constitution had it wrong when they decreed that slaves only counted as three-fifths of a person for purposes of representation in the Congress. They knew that the founders had been wrong about slavery entirely. They knew that this diminishment of the humanity of those who had been enslaved was an affront to our nation's foundational claims about human freedom and legal equality.

The pro-life movement has always been constructed on this deeper moral concern, that no person should have their humanity diminished, even if the movement has failed to live up to this high ideal. The source of human rights is our civilizational belief in transcendent human dignity. Virtually every religion expresses this belief in some way. Ours expresses it in terms of the imago Dei, the belief that every person is made in the image of likeness of God. Every time the pro-life movement ignores other threats to this God-given human dignity, it weakens its credibility.

"Catholic social thought starts with the dignity of each person and the whole person," Dylan Corbett, executive director of the Hope Border Institute which advocates for immigrants, told me. "This is the bedrock of the church's commitment to the poor, the unborn and the vulnerable, without distinction. In the coming months, the Trump administration's targeting of our parishioners, neighbors and the essential workers in our communities simply because of immigration status will test the credibility of our moral witness."

Kristen Day, director of Democrats for Life of America agrees. "Pro-life principles don't end where Donald Trump's pet projects begin," she told me via email. "Remaining silent on the issue of birthright citizenship would betray our movement's highest values because there is nothing pro-life about ending it. Life begins at conception, but it doesn't end at birth."

To be clear, even a democracy seriously engaged in working for equality will need to draw distinctions, to discriminate, between people. We all know a precocious 16- or 17-year-old who is more mature than some 20-somethings we know, but unless you are 18, you don't get to vote. We wouldn't want the government devising some kind of test that decides who is worthy to vote, and who isn't, and so we set an arbitrary cutoff. That arbitrary cutoff is applied universally.

In terms of abortion policy, conception, viability and birth are the usual cutoffs, and there is an argument to be made for any of the three. Only the first coheres with Catholic teaching, and in most pluralistic democracies, the cutoff is at some point between conception and viability.

As a culture, a society and a polity, we need to learn how to think more deeply, and less arbitrarily, about where we draw such lines.

The idea that a person is a citizen of the place where he or she is born is a bulwark against any attempt to discriminate unjustly. A good way to sniff if a particular discrimination is just or unjust is to ask whether it is universal. Birthright citizenship is universal: It applies to everyone born here.

This political linkage of immigration and abortion cuts both ways. Pro-immigrant arguments would have greater moral cogency to many Americans if they were put forward by people who are committed to protecting the lives of unborn children, or at least not indifferent to the dignity of those unborn children. Given the polarization of the country, that moral linkage is not apparent to most and will be dismissed by many. Still, moral coherence eventually wins out most of the time.

At this moment in our nation's political history, the pro-life movement should rally around the cause of defending birthright citizenship.

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I didn't know alleged Catholics could embody this meme so completely but here we are :story:
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Was litrully scrolling through my collection looking for this as I read the article. So heartwarming that it was the first response.

"My Fellow Christians, we must flood our homeland with those we know will vote for the most anti-Christian degenerates imaginable!"
 
The foundational argument of the pro-life movement is that all life is sacred, and that once you start parsing who is, and who is not, entitled to certain rights, you are halfway down a slippery moral slope. All human beings, as human beings, should enjoy the same rights as every other human being.

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Nah. Fuck you, fuck your mother, fuck your family, and fuck you.

I am sick of these retards shrieking about the 14th Amendment. Gather round, all you little retards: the 14th Amendment was specifically to extend the rights of the US Constitution to enslaved people. That's it. It is not for you to get whatever you want because you cannot win elections or take over the Supreme Court.
 
All human beings, as human beings, should enjoy the same rights as every other human being.
Pro-choice groups argue that a human being only has a right to life once it is born, but once born, the rights that are conferred on the person are sacrosanct.
Citizenship isn't a right it's a privilege. If it was a right than anyone making it to a country could become a citizen.
 
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Your birthright is more traditionally associated with who your parents are. Not whatever piece of land your mother happens to be occupying when she squeezes you out.

If you're an American woman and have your baby while overseas...your baby is American.

It isn't that hard to understand. I'm so tired of the blatant hypocrisy they constantly will rub in your face.
 
If you're an American woman and have your baby while overseas...your baby is American.
Very few birthright citizenship enjoyers would want your child to be a citizen of whatever country you shat them out in except America.

It was a paperwork convenience that worked well when the USA was expanding and everything was a hodgepodge of who knows what. Now that the borders are defined and it’s easy to track paperwork it’s not needed.

Even if birthright citizenship is removed there’s nothing preventing “Born in the USA” being a strong argument when being considered for naturalization.

Anyway the correct position is birthright citizenship for aborted babies.
 
The foundational argument of the pro-life movement is that all life is sacred, and that once you start parsing who is, and who is not, entitled to certain rights, you are halfway down a slippery moral slope. All human beings, as human beings, should enjoy the same rights as every other human being.
Being a living human confers certain universal rights. Among those being that your life not be needlessly ended.
Being a citizen confers other, decidedly not universal, rights. Immunity from deportation being among the most relevant here.

Hope that clears things up.
 
They knew that the framers of the original Constitution had it wrong when they decreed that slaves only counted as three-fifths of a person for purposes of representation in the Congress.
It says that every five shall be counted in the census as three for purposes of apportionment of representatives in the House and taxation. It was not a treatise on personhood or humanity, you lying papist nigger.
Still, moral coherence eventually wins out most of the time.
There is no 'moral coherence ' between a fetus and a foreign scab laborer, you lying papist nigger.
 
The whole argument is a non sequitur, unless you think it's good and reasonable that people have children they otherwise would not have, just for the purpose of stealing services and chairity.
 
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I mean, you can be a cucked, migration supporting prolifer if you want but the logic is very strained.
 
c*tholics also rape children.
All christian sects have that issue because it's about abuse of power. The only difference is the catholic church is a juicer target for the media and the other sects are a lot better at keeping it under wraps. Since some Christian sects are church associations with a weak central body, they can simply defellowship the church from the congregational polity or network. The UCC, UMC, and IFB have all done this and are much better at keeping things under wraps. Some churches will dissociate themselves to avoid the scandal getting more attention.
 
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