Pro Public Nudity and Naturists

ToroidalBoat said:
I don't really have a problem with nudism per se. To me it's not inherently sexual. I also think opposition to nudity today is largely a product of the Victorian era when people thought "self abuse" caused blindness.

Although suddenly introducing nudism to a culture that's not ready for it can have disastrous consequences.
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In some way, I suppose it is a case of just how our society has accepted the need for clothing out of necessary of a change in climate and the introduction of privacy and self-consciousness that led us to where we are today.
 
Thank you very much but I don't want to see ugly naked trannies, grannies, fatties and perverts everywhere.

I would die choking on my own vomit.

Remember, just like lesbians, this is not about 23 year old hot bisexual girls who are horny 24/7, no matter what horny teenagers think. The truth under the alluring illusion is horrible, ugly, and stinks.
 
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Male Idiot said:
Thank you very much but I don't want to see ugly naked trannies, grannies, fatties and perverts everywhere.

I would die choking on my own vomit.

Remember, just like lesbians, this is not about 23 year old hot bisexual girls who are horny 24/7, no matter what horny teenagers think. The truth under the alluring illusion is horrible, ugly, and stinks.
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Unless you're an artist and you've actually grown to love your figure drawing class like I had.
 
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Male Idiot said:
I feel for you. I can not imagine how horrible my life would be if I found sagging to the knee tits, giant stretchmarked bellies and old, shriveled testicles something I love to draw.
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Sometimes the most thin, weak, ugly bodies provide some of the best references of the skeletal structure possible. A friend told me this once and it clicked. I don't even think of those areas anymore. They're just shapes!
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But yeah, I used to be in that stage once when I was that nervous to get too close, now I wish I did! I certainly gives you a better understanding of movement and form. I still can't get the hands right in my drawings.

I would rather draw Sonichu babies! :'(
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That too! Always easy to draw them squat, blobby figures with nubby limbs and dot eyes.

EDIT: I will say thought I don't like seeing the same idea applied to animals. I get enough of that in reality, I don't like seeing in art, I suppose that comes out of the prudish thinking I get out of watching cartoons but I sorta like distancing any primary sexual characteristics from getting in the way of an adequate design.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I don't really have a problem with nudism per se. To me it's not inherently sexual. I also think opposition to nudity today is largely a product of the Victorian era when people thought "self abuse" caused blindness.

Although suddenly introducing nudism to a culture that's not ready for it can have disastrous consequences.
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I don't see it as inherently sexual either, but exhibitionists exist and come to mind. It starts becoming a problem especially in the context of people who can't even legally consent to any sort of sexual activity. Then there's nonsexual issues that start arising like hygiene.
 
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Trilby said:
Sometimes the most thin, weak, ugly bodies provide some of the best references of the skeletal structure possible. A friend told me this once and it clicked. I don't even think of those areas anymore. They're just shapes!
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But yeah, I used to be in that stage once when I was that nervous to get too close, now I wish I did! I certainly gives you a better understanding of movement and form. I still can't get the hands right in my drawings.


That too! Always easy to draw them squat, blobby figures with nubby limbs and dot eyes.

EDIT: I will say thought I don't like seeing the same idea applied to animals. I get enough of that in reality, I don't like seeing in art, I suppose that comes out of the prudish thinking I get out of watching cartoons but I sorta like distancing any primary sexual characteristics from getting in the way of an adequate design.
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That raises a question,how would furries be nudists? We would need that for the despoiling of our eyes to be complete.
 
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Male Idiot said:
That raises a question,how would furries be nudists? We would need that for the despoiling of our eyes to be complete.
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Speaking of how furries view their thing as a "lifestyle" thing, I'm sure colonies/camps/clubs would benefit that over annual cons any day of the week had it been that way!
 
Trilby said:
Speaking of how furries view their thing as a "lifestyle" thing, I'm sure colonies/camps/clubs would benefit that over annual cons any day of the week had it been that way!
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No, I was like thinking, would they cut a hole in their fursuits and let the little yiffer hang out? I need a drink the mental images are just too degenerate.
 
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No, I was like thinking, would they cut a hole in their fursuits and let the little yiffer hang out? I need a drink the mental images are just too degenerate.
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Actually, I think some do. I just don't want to think of that either (some even bother creating sheaths just so it's anatomically correct).
 
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Apparently my college philosophy teacher is a prominent figure in the modern naturist community.

He never metioned it in class, I only found out by googling his name. He was kind of a strange dude, extremely vivid character. It seems from my personal experiences with him that he is a daoist and believes in a "natural state" of things that is the objective path to ideal human life, which explains why he advocates for nudism.

His wiki page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Storey
 
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