Money Problems/Success with Ordering From CWCVille Etsy/Ebay

[Asandy31]

For Pete's sake friends, don't give money to Chris excepting any substantial in exchange.

If you must throw away your cash then donate to Hal Turner, at least you'll get more radio broadcasts for that.

Spoiler

Or give your money to the Human Fund! *bass riff*

Or just pay an artist who is familiar with Chris Chan to draw an ugly and terrible realistic likeness, and show it off just to piss him off

 

[Asperchewy]

If he doxed you for a negative review, couldn't you get his Etsy shit suspended?
Or at least wouldn't the threat be enough to keep him from doxing you?

I'm sure if i was doxed by Chris-Chan, you'd all be pleasantly surprised.

Spoiler: Saving you the trouble...

I don't care what he does with the address I've given him via Etsy, nor do the people who reside there. I'm sure they wouldn't mind some Tupperware full of left-over horse Manure from the likes of the Chan clan.

 

[Marvin]

I would, however, be very very cautious of anything you do that Chris will deem is "negative" towards him. He will dox you 100%, he has no issue doxing "trolls" or people who get him in trouble with his current means of selling stuff. So be prepared for that.

I want to disagree with this.

I believe that the risk of doxing is strongly overhyped.

So, first of all, no, Chris is actually extremely accommodating to complaints when you interact with him. Especially if you threaten him with negative reviews and complaints and *most importantly*, threaten to report him to esty or whoever his current host is. He's actually pretty concerned with customer satisfaction. However, because of autism (and for precisely the same reasons he thinks he's a beautiful princess) he cannot perceive customer discomfort unless you explicitly point it out to him.

I want to encourage everyone who has a bad experience dealing with Chris to review him extremely accurately. That's not to say that the risk of doxing is nonexistent. However, Chris has been burned on this in the past. Like Chris gets super uncomfortable, and has serious anxiety when circumstances are fucking with his money. So sure, he'll want to dox you, but he's also done that in the past and that caused even worse anxiety. I don't want to downplay the risk, but rather I really want to encourage the people who want to call Chris out on his shit: please, please do so!

If you give Chris a chance, if you talk to him, he'll stress sigh, be super pissy, but he'll genuiney try to sate you, if only to get you off his back.

 

[AnOminous]

That is the least of my worries. I covered my tracks.

That brings up another valid point. I've noticed as of right now he has "291 Sales" on Etsy but only "38 Reviews" I'd imagine that nobody wants to review his items (Truthfully) for that very same fact of Doxing.

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On the good side, anyone actually doxed by Chris has no reason whatsoever not to file complaints about that, too. I don't know how Etsy handles that because not many people are stupid enough to pull shit like that.

 

[4Macie]

I want to disagree with this.

I believe that the risk of doxing is strongly overhyped.

So, first of all, no, Chris is actually extremely accommodating to complaints when you interact with him. Especially if you threaten him with negative reviews and complaints and *most importantly*, threaten to report him to esty or whoever his current host is. He's actually pretty concerned with customer satisfaction. However, because of autism (and for precisely the same reasons he thinks he's a beautiful princess) he cannot perceive customer discomfort unless you explicitly point it out to him.

I want to encourage everyone who has a bad experience dealing with Chris to review him extremely accurately. That's not to say that the risk of doxing is nonexistent. However, Chris has been burned on this in the past. Like Chris gets super uncomfortable, and has serious anxiety when circumstances are fucking with his money. So sure, he'll want to dox you, but he's also done that in the past and that caused even worse anxiety. I don't want to downplay the risk, but rather I really want to encourage the people who want to call Chris out on his shit: please, please do so!

If you give Chris a chance, if you talk to him, he'll stress sigh, be super pissy, but he'll genuiney try to sate you, if only to get you off his back.

Granted, upon rereading what I wrote, 100% is really strong. All I meant was that if you're worried about doxing from Chris, I wouldn't do anything to anger him.

Months ago, when the sales were new, I feel like Chris was more....patient...with angry or unhappy customers. Lately, it seems from his facebook posts anyway, that he is extremely "stressed" and unhappy with the way things are going. He's lost two places that would sell his shit and a third is too costly for him because he doesn't want the site to take a cut or to "put him in the red" when people file for refunds. Every time one of these places became unavailable to him, he got upset, ranted and raved on facebook (sometimes posting on the site's facebook page as well).

You likely know better than me, but I've seen this type of Chris before, and I've seen the outcome. I, personally, feel that if anyone where to cause problems for Chris for this new site that will let him sell his shit, he'll complain on facebook. Granted, I don't think he'll say "So and so from XX street, X state is giving me a hard time" but I can see him saying "So and so is giving me a hard time and got me kicked off of (insert site name), Call ###-###-#### to tell them they are bloody unfair!!"

Whether or not this is a possibility at this point, who knows. I guess all I'm saying is be cautious if being doxxed is something you're worried about. Kinda like how you don't use your real name on this site. It's just a precaution.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

I don't play around with my money.

Clearly.

 

[Asandy31]

Why is everyone so afraid of getting doxxed by the big bad autist? Eventually
his sale saga journey will unwillingly end. I mean, look at his embargo on other places..complete failure from the start.
He made that guy from that Sony video rapping challenge look like a hero.

 

[Asperchewy]

I want to disagree with this.

He's actually pretty concerned with customer satisfaction.
If you give Chris a chance, if you talk to him, he'll stress sigh, be super pissy, but he'll genuiney try to sate you, if only to get you off his back.

(Jan. 15th.)
As you can tell by my interactions with him in the Etsy conversation i was Seriously 100% surprised that he even responded to my first query. I ordered the Comics.. <- I use the term "Comics" like i was talking about the old Sunday Papers "Cathy" strips (it ruins the whole page).

E-sellers ship within 5-7 days.

(Jan 20th)
I nagged him five days later, (kinda shitty to do to a REAL seller) but, because i knew i wasn't dealing with Amazon. I reminded his ass, and (his Inbox.)

(the 23rd)
I get a response 3 days later from him in pure disbelief. That was on the weekend of the the "Snow Here Is Deep" video. He had promised to Get/Ship the comics by the beginning of the next week. So i gave him benefit of the doubt.

Chris at first, seemed very consumer friendly.

But its 13 days later...

Tons of Chris Internet content, but no "Work" content.

I'd hope to find that long lost Shaker of Salt in my mailbox one day....

But instead, he crapped his pants and may have taken my money.

HIS ETSY-VILLE SHOPPEE GETS:

4 @Bluespike 's OUT OF 1 Ian Brandon Andersons

 

[Asperchewy]

Clearly.

^---This made me laugh. My entire thread has warped back to Autisim in a single Phrase. Its full circle now.

Why is everyone so afraid of getting doxxed by the big bad autist?

We're not.

 

[CatParty]

(Admins, if this is Thread has been created, please displace in the Sonic-poo pile as this is my first)

I've been on the fence about starting a thread about this Chris-Chan subject mostly due to Embarrassment. But after some steady lurking and outright "Tard-Rage!" (without finding anything similar).

I would like to start a thread about: "Problems you've had, or are currently having Ordering Autistic Bullshit from our very own OPL."

So I'm relatively sure I'm not the only Idiot, spending a few dollars on a comic book signed exclusively in Oestrogel and faintly smelling of poop.

My main reason for this post is as follows:

I didn't expect to get what i paid for in ANY frame of REASONABLE time, since Chris is too busy doing absolutely nothing Productive. (kind of an experiment on my part really)

YET, he continues to make new sales daily and post new items for sale almost weekly.

Is Anybody (Here anyways) actually getting what they paid for? has he even bothered to contact you if you've had a question in his Etsy store?

I would like this to be the Forum were people can discuss their current (or past) purchase experiences with Chris's Online "Store Fronts" (be it Etsy and/or Ebay) and maybe even share what you have bought from him. (if it ever even shows up...)

Here's my most recent experience with Chris's Etsy store... I purchased 2 of his books (Sonic-poop #0 and Sonic-poop #1, both to be signed, hopefully sans-the poop) Back in January 15th 2016.... (hoping to get these books before Snorlax Dies and he gives up for good) Pay attention to the amount of time that has gone by:

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The "2 hours ago" Timestamp was actually yesterday (Feb 4th, 2016)...

The weekend he is referring to is the "Knee Deep snow" weekend.

After seeing him make all of these videos and doing "interviews" lately and adding Amiibo after stupid Amiibo to his page for sale... I've been sitting back like "Wheres my stupid Comic Books you lazy autist?"

As you can tell, I am personally ready to take this to Claims. Paypal gives you 180 days to file and I don't play around with my money. I didn't expect him to fulfill his Dooty as a businessman at all in any due time. Since its nearing almost a month since my order, it makes me wonder if Ka-Blam cut him off the same way Lulu did. Either way, I plan on getting a shitty Comicbook, or my money back. Also I'm very curious as to how my patience will be "Greatly rewarded"

I'd like to hear if you fellow Kiwis also have a story to tell or even a picture of the worthless crap you have acquired. Please Share.

I didn't take your comment that way at all. This whole show is for laughs anyways. To be Honest, i think its the best $20 Doll-Hairs i ever spent. Just to fuck with OPL. And to prove a point. Even the Etsy Forums seems to hint at Chris's store (although its against Etsy forum rules to single out a seller or even mention a storefront name, without being banned) i can tell that there is a few "select" stores on Etsy that alot of sellers and buyers have problems with. I'm fairly certain CWCville is in the top 100 for complaints. Its hard to prove because of the "Insta-Ban" a Etsy member can get for mentioning a seller or buyer in a bad light. That place is pretty fucked up.

Here's the issue that somebody buying off of Chris will have with Etsy (or ANYONE on Etsy for that matter). If you "Buy" an item on Etsy from a "Store" your ONLY protection for filing a complaint (from Etsy) is AFTER the seller sends the item in the mail with a tracking number. If the seller never sends an item at all, you CANT file a complaint with Etsy (because most of the items on Etsy are of "Custom Order" and take time to produce ((THIS WOULD BE CHRIS'S EXCUSE)). BUT! Chris only accepts PAYPAL as a form of payment. Thats where you can file a complaint with Paypal stating you never received your item and can open a claim within 180 days from your paypal being withdrawn. Once you open a Paypal case, then Etsy will get involved with a seller/buyer dispute. Paypal is known for protecting the buyer more then the seller. If Chris were smart enough to accept other forms of payment (Credit Cards, Debit, Check) then he could get away with pure fraud. but he Exclusively accepts Paypal only as his form of payment.



I could only hope.

That is the least of my worries. I covered my tracks.

That brings up another valid point. I've noticed as of right now he has "291 Sales" on Etsy but only "38 Reviews" I'd imagine that nobody wants to review his items (Truthfully) for that very same fact of Doxing.

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I'm sure if i was doxed by Chris-Chan, you'd all be pleasantly surprised.

Spoiler: Saving you the trouble...

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I don't care what he does with the address I've given him via Etsy, nor do the people who reside there. I'm sure they wouldn't mind some Tupperware full of left-over horse Manure from the likes of the Chan clan.

(Jan. 15th.)
As you can tell by my interactions with him in the Etsy conversation i was Seriously 100% surprised that he even responded to my first query. I ordered the Comics.. <- I use the term "Comics" like i was talking about the old Sunday Papers "Cathy" strips (it ruins the whole page).

E-sellers ship within 5-7 days.

(Jan 20th)
I nagged him five days later, (kinda shitty to do to a REAL seller) but, because i knew i wasn't dealing with Amazon. I reminded his ass, and (his Inbox.)

(the 23rd)
I get a response 3 days later from him in pure disbelief. That was on the weekend of the the "Snow Here Is Deep" video. He had promised to Get/Ship the comics by the beginning of the next week. So i gave him benefit of the doubt.

Chris at first, seemed very consumer friendly.

But its 13 days later...

Tons of Chris Internet content, but no "Work" content.

I'd hope to find that long lost Shaker of Salt in my mailbox one day....

But instead, he crapped his pants and may have taken my money.

HIS ETSY-VILLE SHOPPEE GETS:

4 @Bluespike 's OUT OF 1 Ian Brandon Andersons

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Lol you're surprise? Serves you right for wasting money on Chris you autist

 

[Asperchewy]

Lol you're surprise? Serves you right for wasting money on Chris you autist

Autist is, as Autist does.

On the bright side, I'm no @DStecks or @Sonic Rainboom

To me its like Gambling.

 

[CatParty]

Autist is, as Autist does.

Then quit bitching

 

[TOOTBLAN]

Like you said, you should probably report him to paypal. Hit him where it hurts.

 

[Hyperion]

You were conned by a fat autist with the IQ of a turnip. Congrats, OP!

Seriously though, report him to Etsy. That's the only way that Chris will learn that you have to actually send people their merchandise when you take their money.

If Chris hasn't learned this by now he never will. Cause and effect are a mystery to Chris and he will just assume you're reporting him to be mean.

 

[Mashed Potato Grenade]

Here's the issue that somebody buying off of Chris will have with Etsy (or ANYONE on Etsy for that matter). If you "Buy" an item on Etsy from a "Store" your ONLY protection for filing a complaint (from Etsy) is AFTER the seller sends the item in the mail with a tracking number. If the seller never sends an item at all, you CANT file a complaint with Etsy (because most of the items on Etsy are of "Custom Order" and take time to produce ((THIS WOULD BE CHRIS'S EXCUSE)). BUT! Chris only accepts PAYPAL as a form of payment. Thats where you can file a complaint with Paypal stating you never received your item and can open a claim within 180 days from your paypal being withdrawn. Once you open a Paypal case, then Etsy will get involved with a seller/buyer dispute. Paypal is known for protecting the buyer more then the seller. If Chris were smart enough to accept other forms of payment (Credit Cards, Debit, Check) then he could get away with pure fraud. but he Exclusively accepts Paypal only as his form of payment.

Get the police involved.
Or a hitman.

 

[Trilby]

I'd really expect nothing less. Maybe he'll find a way to deface the Comic by giving all the characters red eyes if you open a case against him.

Oh yes, the weird flaming variety!

Spoiler: An example.

If Chris hasn't learned this by now he never will. Cause and effect are a mystery to Chris and he will just assume you're reporting him to be mean.

It's a shame to deal with a blank wall.

 

[AnOminous]

Get the police involved.
Or a hitman.

Bitcoin bikers will solve any problem.

 

[Silver Octopus]

I want to disagree with this.

I believe that the risk of doxing is strongly overhyped.

So, first of all, no, Chris is actually extremely accommodating to complaints when you interact with him. Especially if you threaten him with negative reviews and complaints and *most importantly*, threaten to report him to esty or whoever his current host is. He's actually pretty concerned with customer satisfaction. However, because of autism (and for precisely the same reasons he thinks he's a beautiful princess) he cannot perceive customer discomfort unless you explicitly point it out to him.

I want to encourage everyone who has a bad experience dealing with Chris to review him extremely accurately. That's not to say that the risk of doxing is nonexistent. However, Chris has been burned on this in the past. Like Chris gets super uncomfortable, and has serious anxiety when circumstances are fucking with his money. So sure, he'll want to dox you, but he's also done that in the past and that caused even worse anxiety. I don't want to downplay the risk, but rather I really want to encourage the people who want to call Chris out on his shit: please, please do so!

If you give Chris a chance, if you talk to him, he'll stress sigh, be super pissy, but he'll genuiney try to sate you, if only to get you off his back.

Dafuq is wrong with Chris? I can't even...

 

[MediExcalibur2012]

(Admins, if this is Thread has been created, please displace in the Sonic-poo pile as this is my first)

I've been on the fence about starting a thread about this Chris-Chan subject mostly due to Embarrassment. But after some steady lurking and outright "Tard-Rage!" (without finding anything similar).

I would like to start a thread about: "Problems you've had, or are currently having Ordering Autistic Bullshit from our very own OPL."

So I'm relatively sure I'm not the only Idiot, spending a few dollars on a comic book signed exclusively in Oestrogel and faintly smelling of poop.

My main reason for this post is as follows:

I didn't expect to get what i paid for in ANY frame of REASONABLE time, since Chris is too busy doing absolutely nothing Productive. (kind of an experiment on my part really)

YET, he continues to make new sales daily and post new items for sale almost weekly.

Is Anybody (Here anyways) actually getting what they paid for? has he even bothered to contact you if you've had a question in his Etsy store?

I would like this to be the Forum were people can discuss their current (or past) purchase experiences with Chris's Online "Store Fronts" (be it Etsy and/or Ebay) and maybe even share what you have bought from him. (if it ever even shows up...)

Here's my most recent experience with Chris's Etsy store... I purchased 2 of his books (Sonic-poop #0 and Sonic-poop #1, both to be signed, hopefully sans-the poop) Back in January 15th 2016.... (hoping to get these books before Snorlax Dies and he gives up for good) Pay attention to the amount of time that has gone by:

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The "2 hours ago" Timestamp was actually yesterday (Feb 4th, 2016)...

The weekend he is referring to is the "Knee Deep snow" weekend.

After seeing him make all of these videos and doing "interviews" lately and adding Amiibo after stupid Amiibo to his page for sale... I've been sitting back like "Wheres my stupid Comic Books you lazy autist?"

As you can tell, I am personally ready to take this to Claims. Paypal gives you 180 days to file and I don't play around with my money. I didn't expect him to fulfill his Dooty as a businessman at all in any due time. Since its nearing almost a month since my order, it makes me wonder if Ka-Blam cut him off the same way Lulu did. Either way, I plan on getting a shitty Comicbook, or my money back. Also I'm very curious as to how my patience will be "Greatly rewarded"

I'd like to hear if you fellow Kiwis also have a story to tell or even a picture of the worthless crap you have acquired. Please Share.

Go to Redbubble and buy the unofficial Sonichu stuff

Better than dealing with Chris

 

[Mary Lee Walsh]

Seriously dude, fuck you for putting that money towards Chris when you could have put that money towards someone who needs that money to score opiates like heroin to feed their addiction. Both qualify as enabling, but at least that junkie will be appreciative of you.

On the other hand, I'm glad you shared all that you did, as it was informative. But when you say shit like you did this for teh lulz or as an experiment, all I gotta ask is how many more people like yourself is it going to take to get fucked by Chris before this experiment is finally over?

Edit - not trying to be mean