Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

[Xerxes IX]

Tom/Mouse wrote several threads on it. The first includes her mentioning red flags and lovebombing, a tactic she denies her group ever does. Archive.

Mouse and all the other big proshippers are claiming they want restorative justice done in this situation but they want heads to roll as much as the antis do.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

the whole vee/angela vondra situation all feels like attention whoring.
"look at me, i've got a gun pointed at my head because somebody doesn't like my retarded cartoon porn!" and the continuous sperging how she's supposedly disabled, (insert spine disability here), and a survivor of "real trauma guyz" and it's just insane how people are falling for this. why are the most vocal proshippers so retarded? why are people acting like she's a victim? she's only got herself to blame for making a reputation of being porn obsessed, her only disability being her crippling addiction to shota. draw porn and make your kinks known to public? expect to be shamed. especially when it’s random underage characters from children’s media. it isn’t puritan to simply think that, quite frankly, it’s just bizarre.

mouse sounds like a newgon admin sometimes, with their arguments.

 

[Budgie]

This iteration of Ang's suicidal meltdowns is funnier than the last few. Despite Ang not being dead, another artist who tweeted about her over three years ago is now being called racial slurs and a murderer on every post they make. This Puppy person whose shoulder Ang keeps crying on posted a video of their feet stroking a dog cock dildo and promised more if people sent Ang money.

I know the document Ang made is a few years old at this point, but she keeps bringing it up as gospel like she didn't show her ass in it in the first place by posting all the screenshots relating to getting fired from her job. I'll never get how she's not grasping that if you draw porn of children, fictional or not, the folks over at Cartoon Network probably won't want you working on content for children.

Ang has just mastered peak grift at this point. All she has to do is dig up getting fired for drawing kiddie porn and how it's ruined her life and the pitybux pour in from people who are somehow believing that she's always either about to die or about to be homeless, then disappear for a few days, and come back miraculously alive, but just barely. Just a couple months ago she begged for 5 grand, eight months ago she grifted NINTETEEN GRAND out of a 25k goal due to "career-ending abuse" (lol), and now she's begging for 8k. Not sure how she manages to piss all this money away so fast but she seems to have found her support system.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

This iteration of Ang's suicidal meltdowns is funnier than the last few. Despite Ang not being dead, another artist who tweeted about her over three years ago is now being called racial slurs and a murderer on every post they make. This Puppy person whose shoulder Ang keeps crying on posted a video of their feet stroking a dog cock dildo and promised more if people sent Ang money.

this "naminepuppy" person helps ang run her accounts, which makes me suspicious. this random whore with a character from the lady and the tramp sequel is trying to be a moral authority - which is rich, as proshippers whine about how antis supposedly moralfag 24/7. yet here proship people are, being total faggots about morality in... someone who's likely lying about suicide vs the random trannies that harassed them ft. the neckbeard, virgin men they roped in.

ah yes, i will take tips for the animation industry from a terminally online slut that strokes dildos with her feet for a living. tell me how the trannies and kyle and tony are so evil cuz they did petty catty bitch shit, as if vee isn't totally catty and petty toward anyone who doesn't worship her shota garbage.

wow, a leftist funnyman is a grifter? never heard of that before! seriously, they're only dogpiling this tony guy cuz he thinks shotacon is weird. though most of these ddlg/cnc whatever kinks are bizarre

I know the document Ang made is a few years old at this point, but she keeps bringing it up as gospel like she didn't show her ass in it in the first place by posting all the screenshots relating to getting fired from her job. I'll never get how she's not grasping that if you draw porn of children, fictional or not, the folks over at Cartoon Network probably won't want you working on content for children.

"but- but muh trauma and coping!"
she says she's got a therapist that recommends she do this type of art to cope. i'm sorry, what therapist would recommend a supposed rape victim to draw porn of child characters? be realistic.

Ang has just mastered peak grift at this point. All she has to do is dig up getting fired for drawing kiddie porn and how it's ruined her life and the pitybux pour in from people who are somehow believing that she's always either about to die or about to be homeless, then disappear for a few days, and come back miraculously alive, but just barely. Just a couple months ago she begged for 5 grand, eight months ago she grifted NINTETEEN GRAND out of a 25k goal due to "career-ending abuse" (lol), and now she's begging for 8k. Not sure how she manages to piss all this money away so fast but she seems to have found her support system.

pure dickriding and sperging over an artist who isn't even making quality art. how many times has she faked suicide? think i've lost count. her so called DID is clearly faked, as is the supposed "complex disability that no free clinic can help, coincidently". expect her to use a new username in about a week...maybe 9 days.

everyone in this scenario are just spergs and fags and troons pointing fingers. both the proshippers and antis have made complete fools out of themselves, but the proshippers entered a new level of spergafaggotry

 

[Budgie]

pure dickriding and sperging over an artist who isn't even making quality art. how many times has she faked suicide? think i've lost count.

With how hard people are riding on this "anyone who had to do with Ang losing her job is a MURDERER!" wave you really have to wonder if at this point they just WANT her to die so they can treat her like a martyr for people who want to draw kids fucking. It's all very self-masturbatory.

Puppy also very purposefully worded their last few posts on Ang's account vaguely (closing the Ko-Fi, sending out those last few orders) so if you're just seeing it in passing it really does look like she already died when in reality she's hanging back and sitting on the money people are sending her.

Also lol:

Don't ask questions, just send the fucking money!

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

With how hard people are riding on this "anyone who had to do with Ang losing her job is a MURDERER!" wave you really have to wonder if at this point they just WANT her to die so they can treat her like a martyr for people who want to draw kids fucking. It's all very self-masturbatory.

Puppy also very purposefully worded their last few posts on Ang's account vaguely (closing the Ko-Fi, sending out those last few orders) so if you're just seeing it in passing it really does look like she already died when in reality she's hanging back and siting on the money people are sending her.

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Don't ask questions, just send the fucking money!

the grift is strong with these pornsick spergs! it's definitely self-masturbatory for liz, mouse and the other big proshippers rallying on this train.

1,000 USD... and then hours later Ang is like "imma kms" like come on, how are people over 21 years old falling for this?

 

[Budgie]

In case anyone is interested, here's an "I really mean it this time guys I'm killing myself now!" goodbye document from 2019. Take a shot every time she makes sure to mention her DID.

If you don't feel like wasting three years of your life reading it, here are a few good parts that at least outline how much of a munchie she is.

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There is at least some comfort in knowing everyone around her offline was sick of her making shit up all the time. Imagine being turned away at the ER because you've shown up so many times convinced you were dying; no wonder she's allegedly 21k in medical debt.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

In case anyone is interested, here's an "I really mean it this time guys I'm killing myself now!" goodbye document from 2019. Take a shot every time she makes sure to mention her DID.

If you don't feel like wasting three years of your life reading it, here are a few good parts that at least outline how much of a munchie she is.

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There is at least some comfort in knowing everyone around her offline was sick of her making shit up all the time. Imagine being turned away at the ER because you've shown up so many times convinced you were dying; no wonder she's allegedly 21k in medical debt.

thanks for trimming that so i don’t have to waste four hours reading another vee “woe is me” doc…

what bullshit. she’s 26 and she does this? munchausen by…proshipping. i'm struggling to see how anybody could take her seriously, but at least those doctors and nurses know what's really up. attention whoring doesn't get you far.

 

[Markass the Worst]

In case anyone is interested, here's an "I really mean it this time guys I'm killing myself now!" goodbye document from 2019. Take a shot every time she makes sure to mention her DID.

At this point Ang is less trustworthy than climate activists. She claims to be killing herself for realsies more often than climate doomers predict the end of the world.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

At this point Ang is less trustworthy than climate activists. She claims to be killing herself for realsies more often than climate doomers predict the end of the world.

she’s attempted suicide like 90× in 4 years. Just for some money she probably spends on art of Frankie and Mac doing incest role-play sex. she’s such a looney troon.

now her friends are harassing some dyke called aquabiooms cuz apparently she's part of the "gang that harassed ang into suicide". honestly funny seeing this though, the left swallowing itself up thru ship vs anti.

 

[Budgie]

Ang just can't seem to grasp that absolutely none of this would have happened if she had just went to therapy instead of gooning to babyrape all day. Nobody held a gun to her head telling her to fantasize about being in an incestuous relationship with her older brother (fictional, but she has a younger brother IRL). She's not the only case of someone saying "I'm coping! I'm coping!" that I've seen, but NO therapist will ever tell you that drawing porn of kids is alright, let alone a verifiably good coping mechanism for trauma revolving around sex.
I believe in at least having the common decency to keep shit private if you're going to draw/larp shit like that, but she couldn't even do that right. Her accounts full of her Mac/Frankie porn or fantasies about the kids from Invader Zim getting molested by their dads were either public or were locked with 2k+ followers on it, so not very private at all if she's just letting anyone in. Ang has nobody to blame but herself and no amount of suicidal tantrums and finger-pointing at random people (ie aquabiooms and toydrill) is going to change that at the end of the day.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

Ang just can't seem to grasp that absolutely none of this would have happened if she had just went to therapy instead of gooning to babyrape all day. Nobody held a gun to her head telling her to fantasize about being in an incestuous relationship with her older brother (fictional, but she has a younger brother IRL). She's not the only case of someone saying "I'm coping! I'm coping!" that I've seen, but NO therapist will ever tell you that drawing porn of kids is alright, let alone a verifiably good coping mechanism for trauma revolving around sex.

no therapist prescribes any sort of pornography engagement to rape victims. if a rape victim consumes pornography, it damages their psyche more, basic concept. porn addiction eats away at the brain, whether it's cartoon porn or real porn - and thing is, cartoon porn artists tend to look at actual pornography to get references. make of that what you will re: loli and shota factors.

i hope that younger brother is alright, because i don't trust her around him. if her mother disowned her, it's because of the obvious factors and also, a potential threat she could've posed to the kid.

I believe in at least having the common decency to keep shit private if you're going to draw/larp shit like that, but she couldn't even do that right. Her accounts full of her Mac/Frankie porn or fantasies about the kids from Invader Zim getting molested by their dads were either public or were locked with 2k+ followers on it, so not very private at all if she's just letting anyone in. Ang has nobody to blame but herself and no amount of suicidal tantrums and finger-pointing at random people (ie aquabiooms and toydrill) is going to change that at the end of the day.

jesus christ it's not even like anybody asked her to share her porn minus the proshippers she surrounds herself with and all those coomers. her suicidal tantrums and fingerpointing just distract from the main issue she needs to resolve by working on herself, by fixing her porn addiction and going to real therapy for her traumas - which she can afford! her kofi is still up, for fuck's sake. she gets 50$ dollar donations a day. that's more than most people in the USA make in a single week.

she deserves to be fired. every fucking person who does this stuff deserves to be fired cuz anyone who would have the shamelessness and brashness to create pornographic material of children's media or anything for that matter is probably an individual who won't be afraid to make others around them uncomfortable. especially when it's a common thing that is being endorsed in your friend groups. being surrounded by that kind of encouragement of that kind of thing would warp you into a delusional schizoid. like sexualizing kids and kids media is oH FUCKING KAY

what a joke.

 

[Baby Pom]

Crossover with Iamlunasol: [A]

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More sperging about a person who isn't even dead (they've sent legions of people to harass this convention):

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Miscellaneous drama: [A]

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One interesting point from the mess above (going from my memory the initial callouts weren't until March and Handsomehugs has long been linked to Vee's IRL identity and work)

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

Look! The troons, proship retards, the antis, and the grifters are fighting!

As far as I'm aware, @/angslegacy is founded by @aquabiooms, aka that aqua person in Ang's latest doc "in case of callout". She is ironically neither proship or anti, and just another weeb kweer who grifts off latest trends. Their yid fiancé is similar. Apparently they're only fighting against Ang because they're friends with Jeraspat, yknow, the groid who's friends with Toydrill.

I will be blunt about the supposed grooming allegations against Ang "Vee" Vondra: it's he said, she said, but simply put... Vee is a shotasperg. End of. We don't really have any testimonials outside of the obvious grift from Aqua, but I am more concerned about their brother. They made a whole "OC" that's an older brother they dream of fucking. What does that say about their younger brother, who we don't even know his age?

Puppy is a grifter, and Lunasol is an idiot. All these faggots harassing Youmacon are as horrible as the evil antis they decry. Kyle's only crime was making an awful cartoon and just being no different from the fat fuck who made High Guardians Sugar Spice or whatever. Maybe he's a hypocrite, but so are they. These people need lives.

Naminepuppy needs to go to therapy as much as Vee does. Faking suicide is not only insulting, but taking advantage of people's lack of critical thinking skills to steal money or gain pity is just vile. And for what? Because you can't handle four and a half years of being known as the bitch that was so horny for little boys, the animation industry wanted nothing to do with her.

 

[Chandelier]

There is at least some comfort in knowing everyone around her offline was sick of her making shit up all the time. Imagine being turned away at the ER because you've shown up so many times convinced you were dying; no wonder she's allegedly 21k in medical debt.

PL: all the things she described can be directly associated with anxiety disorder. You'll get cramping near your ribs and may find it difficult to eat. Fainting spells can be common for some. If your vision isn't constantly impaired that can also be a result of panic attacks. Heart palpitations, absolutely.

With that money she could've find a private doctor, asked for a physical or gotten an eye test. If she's normal, it's psychological. If she's not on anti anxiety meds, marijuana will help. Find you a good dealer and a bong and you'll find the muscle spasms and chest pains go away. CPD oil also works (haven't tried it myself, though). If you don't want expensive meds, try that.

no therapist prescribes any sort of pornography engagement to rape victims. if a rape victim consumes pornography, it damages their psyche more, basic concept. porn addiction eats away at the brain, whether it's cartoon porn or real porn - and thing is, cartoon porn artists tend to look at actual pornography to get references. make of that what you will re: loli and shota factors.

Mouse has said she's been "prescribed" such therapy, as have others in her circle. She'll jump from saying she's being stalked and has PTSD before claiming everything said about her I'd funny.

I do wanna see the shitty art she gets commissioned, though.

More sperging about a person who isn't even dead (they've sent legions of people to harass this convention):

Love for these queers to learn about "libel." If you're calling someone a murderer without proof, you can say hello to their lawyers. Watch them cry when their names show up in the legal text and they need to take their unwashed asses to court.

 

[Baby Pom]

As her motives in being a gatekeeper of access to someone apparently having a mental health crisis, including preventing personal friends from speaking to Ang, while being previously unknown in the wider 'proship' community are being rightfully questioned, Puppy is now pulling an "I'm totally quitting the internet forever you guys" thing as a result of not receiving universal blind trust. Can't get it to archive properly on either archive.today or Ghostarchive.

Bonus: (Ang's supposed disabilities are classic munchie favorites like ambiguous "chronic pain", if I recall correctly)

Additionally, someone allegedly called in a wellness check and this is bad because ACAB or something.

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[DontScareMeImHugged]

As her motives in being a gatekeeper of access to someone apparently having a mental health crisis, including preventing personal friends from speaking to Ang, while being previously unknown in the wider 'proship' community are being rightfully questioned, Puppy is now pulling an "I'm totally quitting the internet forever you guys" thing as a result of not receiving universal blind trust. Can't get it to archive properly on either archive.today or Ghostarchive.
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Bonus: (Ang's supposed disabilities are classic munchie favorites like ambiguous "chronic pain", if I recall correctly)
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Puppy's compulsive lying is astonishing. She and Ang are arranging a whole hoax.

Also why the fuck would you deny a wellness check for your suicidal friend? More proof this is all a ploy to get cash and sympathy. They're even trying to hound Hero Hei and other youtubers (who are, of course, pro loli dramacows).

 

[Baby Pom]

Puppy's compulsive lying is astonishing. She and Ang are arranging a whole hoax.

Also why the fuck would you deny a wellness check for your suicidal friend? More proof this is all a ploy to get cash and sympathy. They're even trying to hound Hero Hei and other youtubers (who are, of course, pro loli dramacows).

I appreciate the irony of it being said that Ang is supposedly getting a restraining order in response to being subjected to a wellness check because police scary, when in the process of getting said restraining order you would likely have to talk to the police.

 

[DontScareMeImHugged]

I appreciate the irony of it being said that Ang is supposedly getting a restraining order in response to being subjected to a wellness check because police scary, when in the process of getting said restraining order you would likely have to talk to the police.

The histrionics...

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

what i've learned is that fandom shit is exhausting. I like making fanworks, but I kinda just exist in my own bubble away from everyone else. it's so tiring having to deal with other people.