Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

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Kyle Carozza may not have LITERALLY MURDERED ANG but he is a pedophile. He's been arrested and charged for possession of CP. More proof the loudest voices in this discourse are pedos calling each other pedos all the way down
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Not surprising, given what he looks like.
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Surprised it took the police this long to investigate him tbh
 
Mouse is already using it for thread material
She also has updates from Ang:
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If Ang is lucid enough to be telling the truth, it makes Kyle, Jane, and the others look horrible. At the same time, I think Mouse is exaggerating some of it (couch surfing, Ang being steps from death's door, etc.) since we've seen she's well enough to record videos and draw (something she claimed she wasn't able to do for a long time due to her health). Does anyone remember if Ang specifically mentioned actual CP or revenge porn when speaking about Kyle? I wouldn't be surprised if she alluded to him being a creep, but I don't remember if she explicitly said he owned illegal material, like Mouse is claiming.
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Does anyone remember if Ang specifically mentioned actual CP or revenge porn when speaking about Kyle?
I remember she made vague allusions to having been raped, but I don't have the links or screencaps on me. I think this was around 2019-2020, which would have been around the time she was working on Mighty Magiswords. I also think I remember somebody mentioning that she slept on Kyle's couch for a while, but I could be mistaken on this. If anybody has links to corroberate this I'd appreciate it.

Mouse is almost certainly making shit up about Vee's health though. If her health is so precarious, how is she capable of these sick moves?
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Mouse is already using it for thread material
She also has updates from Ang:
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If Ang is lucid enough to be telling the truth, it makes Kyle, Jane, and the others look horrible. At the same time, I think Mouse is exaggerating some of it (couch surfing, Ang being steps from death's door, etc.) since we've seen she's well enough to record videos and draw (something she claimed she wasn't able to do for a long time due to her health). Does anyone remember if Ang specifically mentioned actual CP or revenge porn when speaking about Kyle? I wouldn't be surprised if she alluded to him being a creep, but I don't remember if she explicitly said he owned illegal material, like Mouse is claiming.
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This makes her look infinitely worse and scummy as well. She had every opportunity to mention this considering she used the words sexual harassment for her own situation which didn't even warrant it (her PUBLIC shotacon art being shared) If she knew and kept quiet to save her own barely functional back then Ang's human garbage just like Jane.
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Also Mouse is disgusting for using this for her own fandom discourse shit without any care for Kyle's victims.
"If this doesn't turn the tide of slander against proship". Neil Gaiman AND Bryan Fuller were both recently implicated as actual predators, so what's the case on that Mouse? Do they suddenly not count as proshippers despite you harping in the past that they were / counted as such?
 
Yeah Vee isn't dying but she probably did know Kyle was a pedofork before it was outed. I can see her trying to tell people and not being believed due to her art. That seems somewhat plausible.
If she knew then what Mouse is saying sounds possible, that Pedophile Kyle made a big deal about her art to get plausible deniability for himself about how he couldn't be a pedo. I want to know more about the people in his circle who kept quiet about him. In the post with the charges we have an associate who nevertheless didn't like him because he seemed like a creep. Are these people who did nothing about him abusers or pedos themselves? Honestly everyone in this kind of situation is disgusting because their only principles are that pedophilia is bad when people they don't like do it.
 
If she knew then what Mouse is saying sounds possible, that Pedophile Kyle made a big deal about her art to get plausible deniability for himself about how he couldn't be a pedo. I want to know more about the people in his circle who kept quiet about him. In the post with the charges we have an associate who nevertheless didn't like him because he seemed like a creep. Are these people who did nothing about him abusers or pedos themselves? Honestly everyone in this kind of situation is disgusting because their only principles are that pedophilia is bad when people they don't like do it.
Tony Goldmark comes to mind as he had a podcast with him for years / very public friends. He's outspoken a lgbtq ally and known to be full of himself. If Ang knew then he definitely knew which makes all his moral posturing fucked up and laughable now.
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Cross posting with the Cartoon Industry thread but one of Kyle's victims is lashing out at people she thinks let Kyle's actions go unquestioned.
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Kyle Carozza may not have LITERALLY MURDERED ANG but he is a pedophile. He's been arrested and charged for possession of CP. More proof the loudest voices in this discourse are pedos calling each other pedos all the way down
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I've grabbed a few responses in my post here. By no means is it all encompassing, but it definitely grabs the vibe. These same people were defending Prostasia a few years ago, Mouse included. The fact Ang knew he was a pedo and decided to use her as bait gets the noggin jogging. She's not a victim by any means; who knows, he might've actually liked her shit before she got suspicious.
Ang is lucid enough to be telling the truth, it makes Kyle, Jane, and the others look horrible. At the same time, I think Mouse is exaggerating some of it (couch surfing, Ang being steps from death's door, etc.) since we've seen she's well enough to record videos and draw (something she claimed she wasn't able to do for a long time due to her health). Does anyone remember if Ang specifically mentioned actual CP or revenge porn when speaking about Kyle? I wouldn't be surprised if she alluded to him being a creep, but I don't remember if she explicitly said he owned illegal material, like Mouse is claiming.
She drew shota porn of Invader Zim characters and he showed the porn to her higher ups. It was apparently bad enough to warrant her firing. Rebecca Sugar drew underage porn of Ed, Edd n Eddy and she's still employed. Sucks not to have Jewish privilege. Anyways, Mouse saying she's been in "contact" makes me wonder if she's even watching Ang's videos. I assume she isn't. Of all the people she's talking to, it had to be the obese pooner? 🧐
this doesn't turn the tide of slander against proship". Neil Gaiman AND Bryan Fuller were both recently implicated as actual predators, so what's the case on that Mouse? Do they suddenly not count as proshippers despite you harping in the past that they were / counted as such?
Lmao. I just grabbed these. She hasn't yet issued her cancellation callout ticket.

He's the real deal.
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On Neil Gaiman writing Aslan eating a girl out (age undetermined):
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He's defending queer people:
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Edit: this did not age well.
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And here's her essay on how she's tried to warn people for YEARS about defending real children and freedom of speech and how a woman was driven to end of life care...while ignoring every bit of evidence showing that she's alive.
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She's fought for years, people. And she can't decide if Ang is dead, alive, or Schrodinger's cat. I'd love to see these super secret messages.
 
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I'd love to see these super secret messages.
You'd think Ang would have something to say about this herself, but the last post on her Barrag was answering a lore question about her edgy OC.
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It's possible that Ang hasn't been in contact with Mouse at all. Until I see screencaps of these messages, I'm taking everything she says with a grain of salt.
 
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At the end of the day is like you said, she has to feel special. She can't just have normal OCs, they're actually alters and she has DID. She can't just say "I have a desk job and don't exercise much, maybe that's why my back hurts. I also have some food allergies", she has 5667 super rare disabilities.

An interesting aside: Adrien claims to be asexual, and starts talking about her supposed sex life
Adrien changes her sexuality every two years.

Af first they were bi with a preference for men.
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Then she was a lesbian
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Now she is asexual. She also seem to think that her two straight OCs in an abusive romance are some kind of subversive queer masterpiece.

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I'm sure millions of queer people see themselves reflected in the experience of a cis straight man who is a pedo rapist groomer and is also specified to be both mildly homophobic and mildly transphobic.

It's not the fisrt time she tries to paint a straight relationship as queer. Who can forget "lesbian with one exception Laika" or this gem of a tweet.

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On another news, she is definitely a trans woman. I went digging to her tumblr and I think this two posts pretty much confirm it.
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A while ago someone questioned her on her retrosping and she got all pissy and offended because misoginy apparently. I don't understand why she is so fixated on denying it. I also dont't think that a person who doesn't even have a clit should be offering advice on female nullification.
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Mouse is already using it for thread material
This is straight up disgusting. She doesn't care about Ang at all, she doesn't see her as a person, she is a martr for this retarded Antis vs Proshippers debate, a fucking prop to defend her stance in fictional porn. There's two possibilities: either she IS able to contact Ang and she has let's her post her insane rants and continue to get worse and worse without trying to get her actual help or she isn't in contact with Ang (most likely) and is just using her to turn the attention from FUCKING CP POSSESION and instead focus on fucking cartoons and mentally ill people fighting online.

Proshippers are all about protecting victims but these bastards keep bringing up Ang every 5 seconds when the last thing she needs is attention from randoms online.

I hope she fucking rots.
 

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Mouse is back at defending Ang with a new tweet (Archive)
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"Not immediately dying". It's been almost a year since she originally said she was going to die soon. She turned out to be pretty sturdy for a disabled barely holding it together person.

Also I found this on Tumblr. An anon is saying Ang was abusive. If you go into the comments a person is talking about how Ang harassed them and how she faked her death for the first. Are there any allegations against Ang that are actually believable? The faking her death years ago is true, but I've seen a lot of people throw "abusive" and "harassment" around when talking about petty bullshit. Jane said Ang raped her but honestly I take everything she says with a giant grain of salt.

I also love people are pointing out how there's no way Ang got blacklisted from Invader Zim porn. It was always so absurd to me, everyone knows Rebecca Sugar's Ed Edd n Eddy porn and Kim possible's creator was shown a foulder full of cartoon porn as a warning of what people would to to his show, animation studios don't give a fuck about the porn you draw, much less if it tame shit like a ship with an aged up character
 
So I found this absolute trainwreck pooner that has interesting ties to our deaddadlover Adrien.
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Mikey is a 21 year old ftm detrans diaperfur porn artist with a fixation on Pinkie Pie. Her art is mostly known for being just absolutely haram; incorporating subject matter like pedophilia, incest, rape, necrophilia, scat, etc.
Main twitter (Archived)
Personal twitter (Archived)
Carrd (Archived)
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Mikey also made this image mocking straight couples that went big on twitter.
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Hilarious considering she admits to being so porn addicted she can't get off to anything that isn't in the "extreme" category of kinks.
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So what else makes Mikey notable? She started her nsfw account at the age of 16, hiding her age until her 18th birthday. (Archive)
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Mikey was also taking porn commissions during this time including the infamous Vriska hyperscat image. She has expressed regret and guilt at her past actions by comparing herself to the "imposter" from Among us; apparently having a breakdown after seeing an animation meme about the imposter. (Archive)
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FGM enthusiast Adrien Backdoor ho gets involved with Mikey on July 20th 2020 when she vagues Ad about her self mutilation obsession. (Archive) These tweets would imply the two started private contact while Mikey was still 17.
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Adrien was made aware Mikey was 17 on March 5th 2020, a month before their 18th birthday. Note that Adrien is much more offended with the tone of the ask then the minor lying about their age and that they've been private dming each other for months with who knows what. (Archive)
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Ad resumed (public) interactions with Mikey in May 2022 & they continue to interact to this day.
Mikey also does the retarded incest rp thing with her "sister", another diaperfag troon (mtf this time). For as much as these degenerates try to be subversive they love to copy each other.
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So I found this absolute trainwreck pooner that has interesting ties to our deaddadlover Adrien.
This has got to be one of the most dysgenic pooners I've ever seen.
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Very classy dildo on the counter.
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Scrolling down her account for two seconds gets you these gems:
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She has merch (?) from a diaper fetish company hanging on her wall. What a specimen.
Mikey also does the retarded incest rp thing with her "sister", another diaperfag troon (mtf this time). For as much as these degenerates try to be subversive they love to copy each other.
What is it with proship pooners and incest larp? Seeing this reminded me of Xyla Campbell, aka @SquishyAngelBoy, who got posted in the pooner zoo at some point. She's addicted to ketamine and arguing with incestphobes on xitter.
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They claim to be twins who were separated, started dating online, and later found out they were related.
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Nowadays it looks like they're trying to e-beg so they can move in together.
She's also another example of proshipping leaking into real life. Her curiouscat inbox is full of people asking for advice on pursuing their family members and she has no qualms about it.
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Except she wasn't trying to say grooming is wrong. Just implying this person should wait until their brother is 18 because that makes it fine.
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And more:
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Just "fiction", though. Right.
Disturbingly, she also has a discord server with over 300 members in it, and god knows how many are minors.
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Not immediately dying". It's been almost a year since she originally said she was going to die soon. She turned out to be pretty sturdy for a disabled barely holding it together person.
Since she's one of the stars of this thread, I figured I'd post her "free speech at all costs" opinion on the Farms itself. When Pixiv was under fire for posting lolicon content and credit cards were backing out, she cried foul.
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You think she took this to heart? Of course not. Here's her reblogging Tony Reed, celebrating Keffals' aborted attempt of ending the website.
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You can't support free speech for AO3 while wanting it gone for KF. But for autistic retards like her, it's "rules for me but not for thee".

She hates being called a pooner:
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This aged well considering her Pajeet boyfriend left her in under a month.

She genuinely does not think you can get addicted to porn, as there are no withdrawal symptoms and you have to have an obsessive personality for it to exist. Archive.
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It's either a disordered behaviour or it isn't. You can't have it both ways.

Her autistic ass hates imprecise language, so listen to her lie about just how porn works in the brain.
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Porn involves masturbation, and that releases dopamines, a chemical substance that is the "reward drug" of the brain. Insisting there's no chemical reaction involved is to just deny neurochemistry in general. You can absolutely get addicted to porn as you can with gambling. It doesn't need to involve a narcotic substance for you to get addicted. This is just a retarded autist who hasn't even read the literature she constantly trashes.

Reminder she's a STUDENT, not an expert, so you can discount her "deboonking" as the ramblings of a piss fetish pooner.

But no, YOU are the one with a problem:
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How dare people want some places to be without NSFW content. You're just an anti sex chud.

This made me laugh, though.
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These people still can't figure that it's all or nothing when it comes to freedom of expression. Either speech is free and you're smart in choosing if you want to engage or not (nobody's forced to read nastier fics on AO3 or look at any thread on KF), or there's no such thing as discretion and people are universally too retarded to just choose for themselves.

You can dislike the idea of KF while allowing it to exist. You can easily not look at it, like how there's options to not see weirder content on writing archives and these people will remind you of that daily. If these advocates can't see the irony of loathing the mere existence of the Farms and wanting it gone, they might as well join up with those payment processors and just stop advocating for expression entirely. Gay retards.
 
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These people still can't figure that it's all or nothing when it comes to freedom of expression. Either speech is free and you're smart in choosing if you want to engage or not (nobody's forced to read nastier fics on AO3 or look at any thread on KF), or there's no such thing as discretion and people are universally too retarded to just choose for themselves.

You can dislike the idea of KF while allowing it to exist. You can easily not look at it, like how there's options to not see weirder content on writing archives and these people will remind you of that daily. If these advocates can't see the irony of loathing the mere existence of the Farms and wanting it gone, they might as well join up with those payment processors and just stop advocating for expression entirely. Gay retards.
If your gross fictional ships can exist, then so can this site. It shouldn't be that difficult of a concept to grasp.
 
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