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few too many abused children online too late in terms of these people actually now realising who is really behind the screens of some of these types of people (predators/minors). However at least these people have some common sense, even if it is a tiny bitSo many online communities normalize this type of behavior, it's only been in the last few years that people realize it's wrong. I don't think the majority of the people who ERP/discuss fetish shit with minors are necessarily pedophiles or are attracted to the minor in question, but people don't realize that even through a screen it's still inappropriate as all fuck, even if you're not into the minor. A lot of these people were in that same position as children, probably, and later grow out of it and realize it's inapproriate once the harm has already been done. Nobody even bothered to ask for ages.
If nothing else, I'm glad that hyperwoke idiots are catching onto the fact that a minor online is still a fucking minor and are pointing out how fucked it is. I wish perverts in the early 2000s-2010s didnt normalize this type of degeneracy, or we'd be seeing a whole lot less of this, probably. You'll notice most people in fandom circles have some type of grooming story, (as in actual grooming, not as in whatever the fuck this furfag rp shit is) because weaboo retards wanted their 12 year old anime waifu and their weaboo retard friends just stood by and made it seem like nothing was wrong.
Tl;dr: Fandom spaces are retarded and were up until very recently a hotbed for pedos and degenerates to take advantage of people until people started using their fucking brains.
I think we will not see a new person come out anytime soon considering the sheer amount of white knights and the giant hole Ivory has dug himself due to wanting to get some goddamn clout. Id give or take a month at least or possibly a few months max considering that pyro is in the position to abuse minors due to his influence and power alongside teenagers being a core audience which gravitates towards his content.After what happened to Slazo, of course people are going to want proof. I don't know what Ivory was expecting, whining like a bitch that serious accusations of grooming/pedophilia need to be backed up with tangible airtight evidence that's been corroborated. He's probably more upset that he handled this in such a disorganized manner that all he managed to really confirm for us is that Pyro is cursed with a fetish for gassy fatfuck furries who shove food into their bumholes.
Ivory made a laundry list of mistakes that bit him in the ass, so naturally he's lashing out as if he had no control over how things turned out. When you publish a tweet thats marinated in your drafts on an impulse, took hours just to post a handful of screenshots (while scribbling out your reciprocated degeneracy in mspaint), openly admitted you cant even consider it to be actual grooming on TommyC's show, and on top of this, not publicly corroborating or organizing with others who supposedly have been groomed by Pyro... if they really do exist anyeay. For some reason they're apparently so afraid of a B-tier commentary youtuber that they can't even anonymously come forward to corroborate with their own evidence? Sure jan.
Doesnt help that this entire time you never exported the DMs shared with Pyro and instead forced us all to go frame by frame trying to piece together texts and dates from your 'proof' of you scrolling at the speed of light. Ida included. You made your bed the sloppiest way possible Ivory, and now you have to lay in it.
The possibility of Pyro being a groomer isn't totally off the table yet but next time there better be some damn good evidence of it. For now, Im content to point and laugh at Pyro's degeneracy.
Don't get me wrong, I think even if they aren't a pedo, what they're doing is horrific and possibly setting up the child/minor in question to be abused. Most of these people see nothing wrong with it "because it happened to them too, and they're fine!" or "it's not like they're trying to date them!" but self soothe into forgetting that they're still ultimately showing porn to a kid. The people who aren't pedos grow out of it, but it's not like you can predict who will and won't come to their senses/stop being a degenerate around minors. A lot of the non-pedos who are creeps/degenerates are usually 18-19 and are still in the teenager mentality, not that it makes it any better. This is just my experience in fandom skype chats/discord servers. Either way, I'm glad it's becoming less and less acceptable than it was at the beginning of the 2010s.few too many abused children online too late in terms of these people actually now realising who is really behind the screens of some of these types of people (predators/minors). However at least these people have some common sense, even if it is a tiny bit
Sperging out but (pardon my power leveling) having been in Ivory's position:I still don't think Pyro is a pedo or a groomer. But he is a cunt who needs to be kept away from minors because he refuses to take responsibility or even say "I'm sorry" when admitting what he did with kids in the past.
I still don't think Ivory is a clout chaser. But god fucking DAMN he's a dumbass who needs a therapist, some meds, and a long hard break from the Internet.
I guess this trend is something good to have come out of the community in recent years, however pedos will always try and find a way to weasel into positions of power and carry out their abuse.Don't get me wrong, I think even if they aren't a pedo, what they're doing is horrific and possibly setting up the child/minor in question to be abused. Most of these people see nothing wrong with it "because it happened to them too, and they're fine!" or "it's not like they're trying to date them!" but self soothe into forgetting that they're still ultimately showing porn to a kid. The people who aren't pedos grow out of it, but it's not like you can predict who will and won't come to their senses/stop being a degenerate around minors. A lot of the non-pedos who are creeps/degenerates are usually 18-19 and are still in the teenager mentality, not that it makes it any better. This is just my experience in fandom skype chats/discord servers. Either way, I'm glad it's becoming less and less acceptable than it was at the beginning of the 2010s.
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I don't think Ivory will get any help, he is too deep in his own hyper sexualised world and surrounds himself in constant degeneracy he is not even able to see his issues let alone actually admit to them himself. Honestly he needs to be sat down by some family members and talked to about his behaviour online and also most likely the shit he does offline as well.Been trying to make sense of this whole shitshow during a slow workday. I think Ivory had started processing what happened to him as a minor and was lashing out in a mentally / emotionally volatile state. It'd explain why he was talking with Pyro up to two months ago and why he's handled this so badly. If what Ida said about Ivory sleeping with older men is true, and by older men she meant significantly older and not 17-18 year olds, then he was also being taken advantage of by legit pedophiles. Dude's clearly got some serious baggage rumbling around in his noggin that he needs to unpack with a professional.
I'm not saying this to paint Ivory as some ultimate victim nobody can say anything bad about. Whether I'm right or wrong in my guesses, he's an adult. He's responsible for his actions. If he can't trust himself to not do something stupid online when he's in a bad place mentally then he needs to log off social media. Have a friend take control of his accounts, change the password, email, and 2FA to prevent him from getting on. Talk to friends in private and talk with a therapist. And if he IS going to publicly out someone who hurt him then he's responsible for getting his ducks in a row and the consequences he'll face for not doing that.And if he was so sexually promiscuous IRL and online as a teenager I have to wonder if he experienced some kind of Bad Touch earlier in life. I've seen this exact kind of hypersexual behavior in teens who were sexually abused as children. Pedo takes advantage of a kid in an abusive / neglectful living situation and teaches them the way to get positive attention from adults is through sex. The kid turns into a teen, starts puberty, starts feeling sexual impulses, and shit hits the fucking fan.
Or maybe he had a perfectly happy upbringing and was just a horny sperg who wasn't being told no by the adults around him like they should have because they were all retarded furries.
Like the shit he's getting for those last tweets of his. Jesus Christ dude you could have left it on the high point of showing Pyro cut context and was using testimony from someone who had rescinded it over a week earlier. But you had to be a fucking idiot and bury yourself.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Ivory is seeking attention and attention alone. But outing yourself as a fatfur fart fetishist while incurring the wrath of the YouTube Funny Man Stan Horde on a post-Slazo Internet seems like the worst way to go about it. I've given Pyro the benefit of the doubt and assumed he wasn't acting with malicious intent towards Ivory in their chats. It's only fair I give Ivory the same treatment. 'Pedophile' and 'clout chaser' are both on my "Words You Don't Call Someone Unless You Have 100% Proof And No Other Explanation For Their Behavior" list.
I still don't think Pyro is a pedo or a groomer. But he is a cunt who needs to be kept away from minors because he refuses to take responsibility or even say "I'm sorry" when admitting what he did with kids in the past.
I still don't think Ivory is a clout chaser. But god fucking DAMN he's a dumbass who needs a therapist, some meds, and a long hard break from the Internet.
YouTuber stans and fatfurs need to be shot on sight.
I need a bottle of whiskey and a nap.
It is an incredibly big red flag to ask for any sort of personal information in this kind of setting. It really does seem that doing that would look like a breach of the reality/fantasy split. I'm struggling to see how Pyro's at fault even if he's into gross fucking shit. (Imagine not only being a dogfucker, but a fat dogfucker.)I can get what people are saying right now, but wouldn't asking for someone's age, and hell, even where they live, potentially; be a massive fucking redflag in of itself? This is part of the reason why people don't care to ask, I'd imagine, on top of assuming people aren't lying. Acting like teenagers are stupid innocent kids is a mistake in of itself, as well. Shit's complicated, but considering what site we're on, I guess the basic takeaway should be "don't be a degenerate lol".
Most furries don't give a fuck honestly. Especially if they make money on it.It is an incredibly big red flag to ask for any sort of personal information in this kind of setting. It really does seem that doing that would look like a breach of the reality/fantasy split. I'm struggling to see how Pyro's at fault even if he's into gross fucking shit. (Imagine not only being a dogfucker, but a fat dogfucker.)
I can see why some Kiwis here lean on defending Ivory by only giving them a share of the blame, but Ivory carries the entire blame as far as I'm concerned. Ultimately it seems like Ivory had a very nasty habit of lying about their age even when confronted and has been known to join communities that are blatantly +18 when they were underage. Honestly? As MATI as it is, fuck people like Ivory. Aside from another reason that children suck, they're one of the things that make can make nearly any interaction a dangerous endeavor online, even if it's a closed circuit made for adults. People online have no reason to be talking to children, as far as I'm concerned, but when the latter start just lying up and down, there's only so much you can really do or believe.
Ivory is almost definitely a clout chaser, as Pyro is the only one they attacked for this despite there being a much larger backlog of people who they interacted in this way (So you want to drag Pyro out for being a potential pedo, but all the other pedos are okay and should keep doing what they're doing?). This inconsistency and the fact that Ivory's ilk obsess over attention and that they can use it to their benefit as they're a budding musician? Yeah. Sure, Ivory might be traumatized. Maybe. So was I when I fell off the roof, but I wouldn't exactly blame the roof for me climbing on it like an autistic monkey.
That being said: All of this could be avoided if furries like Pyro could keep their identity separate from the whack shit they're into. I have zero idea how furfags like him aren't instantly mortified the moment a singular fetish leaks out, no matter how vanilla or otherwise it is (let alone fatshit).
If it happened before it'll happen again, patterns of behaviours.few too many abused children online too late in terms of these people actually now realising who is really behind the screens of some of these types of people (predators/minors). However at least these people have some common sense, even if it is a tiny bit
I think we will not see a new person come out anytime soon considering the sheer amount of white knights and the giant hole Ivory has dug himself due to wanting to get some goddamn clout. Id give or take a month at least or possibly a few months max considering that pyro is in the position to abuse minors due to his influence and power alongside teenagers being a core audience which gravitates towards his content.
LMAO you have no right to call others degenerates with that pfp LOLPyro is def a degenerate, but based on the complete lack of evidence, people who knew the accuser coming out and saying he had a tendency to lie about his age to join age-restricted forums, and the fact he admitted during an interview that he did not understand the meaning of “groomer” (yeah right) I’m basically convinced this dude wanted clout.
Thats an extremely fair pointLMAO you have no right to call others degenerates with that pfp LOL
Based? red pilled?this is a pedophile honeypot thread and you're all on the list now for revealing how okay you all are with sending minors porn "because it's not okay to ask if they're an adult" and you should be ashamed for falling for it so easily
More like Pedo-pilled.Based? red pilled?
That first paragraph is beyond retarded. Believe it or not, it's actually a big red flag to engage in ERP with anybody, especially random strangers, especially especially when that ERP is of fat furries that eat hamburgers and cake by shoving it up their asses, especially especially especially when one or more of the participants neglect to give their ages and one or both of them are underaged. I agree that Ivory is a clout chaser, but that actually helps illustrate my point of how fucked up he is cos whatever his Uncle Bad Touch did to him. My opinion on this whole ordeal basically sums up to this: Fuck Ivory for having such little self-control, being a clout chaser, and unintentionally purveying the idea that these types of disturbing fetish convos are okay and should be engaged in. But also poor poor Ivory (I feel immense pity for him considering how broken he is), and fuck Pyro for further ruining this dude's already super misshapen moral compass. Ivory is now a goner and will likely be fucked up for the rest of his life, and I think he should either seek therapy to prevent what little of a sense of morality he has left from disappearing, or just fill his skull with lead (not in a "lol kys furfag" sense, but in a sad George killing Lenny out of moral obligation sense) so he doesn't hurt people in the future. As for Pyro, he should just get the latter treatment. The fact that the lesson you drew from this is "Pyro should do a better job at hiding his sexual deviancy" just shows how profoundly fucked up you are. You can't even comprehend the idea that there's something wrong with an adult man gay fatfur ERPing with an emotionally stunted 15 year old. You make me absolutely fucking sick, and now you've got me MATI, which is impressive.It is an incredibly big red flag to ask for any sort of personal information in this kind of setting. It really does seem that doing that would look like a breach of the reality/fantasy split. I'm struggling to see how Pyro's at fault even if he's into gross fucking shit. (Imagine not only being a dogfucker, but a fat dogfucker.)
I can see why some Kiwis here lean on defending Ivory by only giving them a share of the blame, but Ivory carries the entire blame as far as I'm concerned. Ultimately it seems like Ivory had a very nasty habit of lying about their age even when confronted and has been known to join communities that are blatantly +18 when they were underage. Honestly? As MATI as it is, fuck people like Ivory. Aside from another reason that children suck, they're one of the things that make can make nearly any interaction a dangerous endeavor online, even if it's a closed circuit made for adults. People online have no reason to be talking to children, as far as I'm concerned, but when the latter start just lying up and down, there's only so much you can really do or believe.
Ivory is almost definitely a clout chaser, as Pyro is the only one they attacked for this despite there being a much larger backlog of people who they interacted in this way (So you want to drag Pyro out for being a potential pedo, but all the other pedos are okay and should keep doing what they're doing?). This inconsistency and the fact that Ivory's ilk obsess over attention and that they can use it to their benefit as they're a budding musician? Yeah. Sure, Ivory might be traumatized. Maybe. So was I when I fell off the roof, but I wouldn't exactly blame the roof for me climbing on it like an autistic monkey.
That being said: All of this could be avoided if furries like Pyro could keep their identity separate from the whack shit they're into. I have zero idea how furfags like him aren't instantly mortified the moment a singular fetish leaks out, no matter how vanilla or otherwise it is (let alone fatshit).