Harrtam4857
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This Pyro guy is probably a chomo. Fucker had an e-relatiohsip with a 14 when he was 18. https://mobile.twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/1341771125806796807
Pyrocynical / Niall Comas - Inflation / Furshit / Weird Allegations
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🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.
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So did keem just have that girls info lying around for like the past 4 years or is he just lying
Harrtam4857
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If Pyro somehow sneaks his way out of this, I'll be surprised. I mean, he's basically already done it by getting a slap on the wrist for sexting a minor. But if he actually manages to get off scott-free, it'd be the ultimate proof that e-celeb status is more powerful than justice.
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The UK is pretty friendly to pedos so don't expect any actual consequences happening to pyro other than a permanent dark taint on his reputation.
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So tell me. Is Pyrocynical a pedophile groomer whose contacts with Ivory were of the explicit intention of having a sexual relationship with him? This was the accusation worthy of cancelling. Everything else is splitting hairs and moral faggotry.
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From what I can tell, he doesn’t seem to be pedophile groomer regarding ivory, it’s extremely degenerate fetish play. Now you can make an argument that he was grooming him to be receptive of Discord furry role-playing to say, fetish-mine, but Ivory was already doing rp before he met Pyro. On top of that, if nothing happened when Ivory visited, then that would indicate that he was mainly getting his rocks of to Fursona getting plowed by some other Fursona.
If there was any cub-play then that would be a better argument, but I ain’t going to browse gay furry smut chat logs to find it.
Harrtam4857
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The main part is the fact that he fucking new that he was talking to a 15/16 year old. Even if he did not know that Ivory was 15 he knew that Ivory was 16 as evident by the fact Ivory talked about getting a fake ID. Also you should not talk to a kid in a sexual manner even if Rp. Add to that pyro jerked off to the Rp he had with this kid. Also pyro never met Ivory, because ivory did not have a passport. Also it makes pyro look very suspicious since he deleted the conversation about the plane ticket with Ivory.
My verdict pyro should hang from a noose like most chomos.
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Pyro's fanbase being full of braindead children really rubs me the wrong way.
Re: getting off scot free, he definitely will. "Too big to fail" as they say.
Re: getting off scot free, he definitely will. "Too big to fail" as they say.
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But here's the issue: There's no chat log from Pyro directly indicating he knew his age. Now you can say, 'Of course there was, he just deleted it.' However chat logs still remain on Discord even after deletion, hence why you see 'deleted user'. There is a concept in law called "Beyond a reasonable doubt", where you need to have have proof to affirm conviction in a legal case. If you can't find a chat log of that deleted user acknowledging his age, he can explain it as 'oh I didn't see the discord message of him saying he's a minor.' Which is a reasonable doubt, like it or not. Here's the thing about Discord that I don't like: It's utterly ass when it comes to notifications of different servers, I have to scroll all the to the bottom of a discord server to get rid of the notification.
That issue becomes compounded if you have a high refresh rate monitor that is a shitty IPS/VA Panel, due to blur accumulating when scrolling fast. I run into this problem all the time on my two HR panels, so people who game on PC probably can just think to themselves, "He games on PC and is a popular youtuber, so he probably can't keep up his notifications." Which is again, reasonable doubt. I thought they met, my bad. Question regarding the Plane Ticket with Ivory: Did he actually bought one for him or only implied he was going to buy one? Or did he said That he wish he could help him out with buying one? Because those are different implications right there.
Harrtam4857
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I'll take being a moralfag over being a furfag any day of the week.
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Okay, so in a theoretical legal case a defense team can argue that Pyro merely wasn't attracted to him as a real person. They can then make the argument that Pyro didn't groom him him for a physical encounter, rather he merely wanted a fursona to rp with. I know that sounds bullshit and that wouldn't work, but Casey Anthony's lawyer frame the murder of her daughter in an accident, the jury ate it up and she was acquitted. You can get away with heinous shit if you have a good lawyer is what I'm saying, so you have to have a solid piece of evidence, no circumstantial evidence bs because that makes you look bad.
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Between furries, incels and Mgtows, I don't know which ones respond autistically the most.
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Ivory sent Pyro his twitter bio showing that Ivory was 16 Pyro admits this in his response. He says he knew when Ivory was 16. As far as I can tell no plane ticket was bought but this was after Pyro knew Ivory was 16, which is why they discussed fake IDs for the bar. Legally I don't think Pyro can or should be prosecuted this is purely an issue of a creator abusing his position for sexual gratification.
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I saw that, but he framed it as 'I didn't know when I was first messaging him.' Which like I said before, You need something solid of him acknowledging it when first started talking. Legally it can, at least in terms of libel in Britain. If he sent n00ds then, then he can be prosecuted for solicitation(at least here in the states.) Ultimately it's still he said/he said still.
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Tbh toms video on pyro was kidna bad.
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You didn't answer my question. Are you willing to proclaim Pyrocynical a pedophile groomer whose relations and interaction with Ivory was for the goal of having a IRL sexual relationship with him?
Then in that case, everyone should've called it a day and gone home before Turk Tommy came along. If you wanna give him guff for being a furry sex fiend, go ahead. But as of now, this has become nothing but a cultural flame war over splitting hairs and moral faggotry since his relationship with Ivory or anyone else being floated around is worthy of cancelling imo, let alone putting him in the slammer.
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"Pyro probably won't respond and will just go silent for a long time"
*Pyro makes a response video shortly after
"Turkey Tom probably won't respond and will stay silent for a long time"
*Turkey Tom makes a response video shortly after
Kind of happy both made response videos. But yeah, I still really highly doubt Pyro had no knowledge of the age and sadly there's not really a whole bunch of proof to go "GOTCHA!" or anything because it's like only mentioned once in the discord message via the twitter bio and the other shit is just coincidences that Pyro can just brush aside (Like Ida knowing the age but not telling Pyro). Just too many coincidences mixed in with a bunch of shit for me to not really take Pyro's words but that's kind of the problem, they aren't really concrete, just... suspicious at best.
I know the weirdness of the French girl story and Pyro's 2 separate responses to it which again adds to suspicion but it's still not quite concrete at least with all the discord messages, reddit responses, twitter dms, and all that other stuff shown/known so far.
Also late but can I just add the fact Keem became more credible because he was mocking and bullying Pyro for being a furry despite Pyro saying "Keem's spreading lies about me being a furry!" initially is the fucking funniest thing I've seen in a while?
I know Keem's a drama queen and gets WAY too emotional with stories and fucks up with them a lot but the furry shit got me laughing regardless.
*Pyro makes a response video shortly after
"Turkey Tom probably won't respond and will stay silent for a long time"
*Turkey Tom makes a response video shortly after
Kind of happy both made response videos. But yeah, I still really highly doubt Pyro had no knowledge of the age and sadly there's not really a whole bunch of proof to go "GOTCHA!" or anything because it's like only mentioned once in the discord message via the twitter bio and the other shit is just coincidences that Pyro can just brush aside (Like Ida knowing the age but not telling Pyro). Just too many coincidences mixed in with a bunch of shit for me to not really take Pyro's words but that's kind of the problem, they aren't really concrete, just... suspicious at best.
I know the weirdness of the French girl story and Pyro's 2 separate responses to it which again adds to suspicion but it's still not quite concrete at least with all the discord messages, reddit responses, twitter dms, and all that other stuff shown/known so far.
Also late but can I just add the fact Keem became more credible because he was mocking and bullying Pyro for being a furry despite Pyro saying "Keem's spreading lies about me being a furry!" initially is the fucking funniest thing I've seen in a while?
I know Keem's a drama queen and gets WAY too emotional with stories and fucks up with them a lot but the furry shit got me laughing regardless.
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Was Pyrocynical trying to meet up with Ivory to have sex with him? Probably not
Was the term groomer missused early on by Ivory? Yes
Was he specifically attracted to Ivory due to his age, making him a pedophile? Probably not, since Pyro did this stuff with multiple people, as he says in his video, "Now I do wanna directly say something directly to Ivory and apologize to him and to anyone else that I did the furry roleplay garbage with". It's more likely Pyro got off to the messages being sent, rather than the person he was sending them to.
However, this doesn't mean he hasn't lied, told half-truths, dishonestly discredited his critics like Turkish Thomas, and done some scummy stuff. Pyro even acknowledges in his own video he should've asked for age and stopped the sexual roleplay once he knew Ivory was 16, yet his fans act like he completely vindicated himself, proving he did nothing more than degenerate furry shit. Pyro fans act like he did nothing wrong just cause he isn't on the level of Epstein or R. Kelly. There can be a middle ground, where he did do some horrible shit, but isn't a pedophile or groomer.
Ivory was 15 and Pyro was likely 19 at the time when this started. It's up in the air whether he knew or not, and while I personally think he didn't, as shown by others in this thread it's not completely unlikely he didn't know, while Pyro acts like any claims he knew he was 15 are ridiculous.
"How could I have seen his tweets where he mentions he's 15? I was banned on Twitter"
"Why would Ida tell me I was sexting a 15 year old if we weren't even close at the time?"
Well you were close enough to wanna meet up with her on England, sounds like someone you'd be close friends with, not just some person your know online and are friendly with. Either Pyro is lying or Ida doesn't see anything wrong with 19 year olds talking to 15 year olds about eating their fat furry cock.
As Pyro admits in his video, he found out about Ivory's age, 16, and continued to sext him, while he was 20. Does this make him a pedo? Probably not, since he did this with multiple people. I doubt he was getting off to the fact Ivory was 16, but in his video he claims it wasn't even sexual, while also jokingly saying that now everyone knows what he gets off to. While he may not be attracted to Ivory, he did get hard to the conversations they had and continued engaging in them, even after knowing he was 16.
It's not that Pyro was a pedophile or groomer who was trying to fuck minors, but that he was such a degenerate fatfur addict that he didn't care if the person he was roleplaying with was 16. Ivory might not even be the only minor he did this with, considering he implies he did it to multiple people in his vid when apologizing and likely didn't ask age for them either.
There's also the fact Pyro told a 15 year old artist to make their fanart thicker, and when Keemstar claimed he was dating a 15, 14, 13 year old French girl, Pyro said it was completely made up by someone who hates him (https://youtu.be/7uREs5GKCdM?t=829), then on reddit, where less people will see, admitted that he was trying to date a 15 year old French girl, once she turned 16. (https://web.archive.org/web/2016061...nical/comments/4nnh02/responding_to_keemstar/)
After reading the reddit post it doesn't sound like the 15 year old French girl thing was by some guy who "has no idea what he's talking about and is literally just making stuff up to spite" Pyro. Sounds more like a true story being completely blown out of proportion by Keemstar.
Turkey Tom's latest video is on the nose about this whole shit, but is being dislike bombed because apparently all Pyro fans needed to think he did absolutely nothing wrong was a video where he tells half-truths, misrepresents his critics, and even admits some fault (fault that his fans will ignore.)
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