Python dependency Hell

[bearycool]

[https://github.com/drQedwards/ppm](https://github.com/drQedwards/ppm):

**"The true power of open-source lies not just in the code itself, but in the ideas and innovations it sparks in others. This project is a seed, planted in the fertile ground of the developer community, waiting to grow into something remarkable."**

This reflection captures the essence of what an open-source project like `drQedwards/ppm` represents—a contribution that extends beyond its immediate functionality, inviting collaboration, exploration, and potential breakthroughs in the ever-evolving world of technology.



And blah blah, dependency hell sucks in Python and I hate it, let’s discuss on how we can fix that after I did a solution for torch, like other dependency hell packages like that.

https://github.com/drQedwards/ppm](https://github.com/drQedwards/ppm):

**"The true power of open-source lies not just in the code itself, but in the ideas and innovations it sparks in others. This project is a seed, planted in the fertile ground of the developer community, waiting to grow into something remarkable."**

This reflection captures the essence of what an open-source project like `drQedwards/ppm` represents—a contribution that extends beyond its immediate functionality, inviting collaboration, exploration, and potential breakthroughs in the ever-evolving world of technology.

And blah blah, dependency hell sucks in Python and I hate it, let’s discuss on how we can fix that after I did a solution for torch, like other dependency hell packages like that.

https://www.authorea.com/users/856117/articles/1297819-the-persistent-memory-logic-loop-from-proposal-design-to-formal-proof-of-p-np-using-the-pmll-algorithm

 

[Divine Power]

What is the purpose of this project?

 

[Null]

What is the purpose of this project?

bearycool drinks too much.

 

[Divine Power]

bearycool drinks too much.

Amazing

 

[bearycool]

What is the purpose of this project?

Tthink of npm with less drinking management according to @Null

 

[Divine Power]

Tthink of npm with less drinking management according to @Null

Wow amazing insights

 

[bearycool]

Wow amazing insights

Best way I can describe it.

Essentially take PyTorch or any sort of dependency and uses a command line imperative sort of thing to import packages onto your work space without having to worry on dependency hell with import functions in Python.

Friend of mine was having uses with torch and transformers so this helps automates the process.

Npm install Python lol.

Sudo apt install

Ppm install.

Think that.

 

[Divine Power]

Best way I can describe it.

Essentially take PyTorch or any sort of dependency and uses a command line imperative sort of thing to import packages onto your work space without having to worry on dependency hell with import functions in Python.

Friend of mine was having uses with torch and transformers so this helps automates the process.

Npm install Python lol.

Sudo apt install

Ppm install.

Think that.

Npm install Python Lmao

 

[bearycool]

Npm install Python Lmao

if only it were that easy right? Lmao.

https://github.com/drQedwards/PPM

But yeah some work on this makes this weird ass Python project now in 2.0.0 mode.

 

[monk]

python world is full of fucking retards that have done more damage to the FOSS world than anything else has.
Not only do they insist on messing with the stdlib every point release, the majority of common libraries can't even do minor releases without breaking changes. Like fucking cryptography that seemingly breaks something every minor release. These retards can't even do semantic versioning, and I have to trust them to build the core of my operating system. The world would be a better place if the entirety of python just died immediately.
Did I mention significant whitespace and that it's slow as molasses? It sometimes takes seconds to even start up a python script from shell god damn it.
It would have been better if we never stopped using Perl.

 

[bearycool]

python world is full of fucking retards that have done more damage to the FOSS world than anything else has.
Not only do they insist on messing with the stdlib every point release, the majority of common libraries can't even do minor releases without breaking changes. Like fucking cryptography that seemingly breaks something every minor release. These retards can't even do semantic versioning, and I have to trust them to build the core of my operating system. The world would be a better place if the entirety of python just died immediately.
Did I mention significant whitespace and that it's slow as molasses? It sometimes takes seconds to even start up a python script from shell god damn it.
It would have been better if we never stopped using Perl.

This, especially this.

Like semantics and rebuilding the white space like that is retarded.

 

[bearycool]

PPM: Python Package Manager


(within the PPM 2.0.0 project)








This part of the project is a custom AI-aware, persistent Python package manager. Unlike pip, it is:











Context-Aware, Modular, and Memory-Linked








It’s designed not just to install packages, but to do so based on:

• Contextual needs of the agent/system (e.g. current model type or runtime environment),
• Persistent memory of what was installed, why, and whether it worked, and
• Dynamic dependency graphs—which mutate over time based on salience, usage, or failure.

Key Features (PPM 2.0.0 – Python Package Manager Subsystem)











1.


Salient Install Tracking

• Every install is tracked in a persistent JSON ledger:

 

[Napoleon III]

Apologies if this is rude but I am going to offer critiques.

This part of the project is a custom AI-aware, persistent Python package manager. Unlike pip, it is:

This is a really really bad idea. This is bad because you'll be adding something that you don't know how it works making it unpredictable. This will make debugging an absolute fucking nightmare.

Essentially take PyTorch or any sort of dependency and uses a command line imperative sort of thing to import packages onto your work space without having to worry on dependency hell with import functions in Python.

It took me a minute to understand what your problem is because you didn't explain it very well but I explain things poorly sometimes. Import the entire package for when you first write the code. I suggest you make something that tracks what functions you use in your code and even writes out the correct "import function" code automatically. Then when you are done and you don't want to import an entire package you just copy paste the code you need for the functions you need.

Also I suggest making some of the simpler and more often used dependencies into your own dependencies. The best way to deal with dependencies is to not have them. Yeah you shouldn't rewrite Keras or TensorFlow but Javascript Leftpad was incredibly simple and people only imported it because they were fucking lazy.

There is no magic solution that requires no work btw.

• Dynamic dependency graphs—which mutate over time based on salience, usage, or failure.

This sounds like a good idea but will quickly become a unreadable mess.

• Every install is tracked in a persistent JSON ledger:

This is actually not a terrible Idea.