QAnon - Plausible or Conspiracy Theorists?

[Goon]

Yes every one else who believe QAnon unlike you are a retarded dumb asses, but you know the truth. Your SPECIAL!!.

Ok boomer

 

[Syaoran Li]

Go check out the Epstein thread, there is a lot of frightening things those folks found that match up to that sicko's dealings. They might actually be right, let that horrifying thought sink in.

The problem with Pizzagate is that there's a bunch of hysterical garbage that's mixed in with the kernels of truth like Epstein. The whole Satanic/Moloch cult angle is just flat out retarded and there's a good chance that if Comet Ping Pong somehow was connected to child trafficking and Epstein's crimes, it was more likely one of many places to launder money than some kind of demonic dungeon.

 

[Lemmingwise]

The problem with Pizzagate is that there's a bunch of hysterical garbage that's mixed in with the kernels of truth like Epstein. The whole Satanic/Moloch cult angle is just flat out retarded and there's a good chance that if Comet Ping Pong somehow was connected to child trafficking and Epstein's crimes, it was more likely one of many places to launder money than some kind of demonic dungeon.

You are right that there is untruth mixed in with truth. It's an old strategy and remarkably cheap. When you want to suppress an event, you have to release some nonsense anonymously and some curious retards will believe it and spread that too. Because the whole investigation is not happening in a hierarchy, but all random people of various capability, unsure of who they can trust.

There was more than enough evidence that very weird things were happening at comet ping pong beyond money laundering. The link between Epstein and ping pong is very tenuous, btw. Its link to Podesta was much closer.

As for the cultish religion angle, have you seen any of the majestic ape videos? I presume not. Nor the artwork that hung at comet ping pong. Nor the reviews prior to pizzagate really blowing up and a lot of it being expunged from the internet. If you haven't seen the evidence and are dismissing it out of hand before that, that's just putting your head in the sand. But you're also trying to convice others, so I thought it worthwhile to point it out.

You, Syaoran Li, have the same default position that every type of cry about anything satanic is by definition a satanic panic, as if it were completely impossible for bad people to have motives beyond immediate self-fulfillment.

 

[Syaoran Li]

You are right that there is untruth mixed in with truth. It's an old strategy and remarkably cheap. When you want to suppress an event, you have to release some nonsense anonymously and some curious retards will believe it and spread that too. Because the whole investigation is not happening in a hierarchy, but all random people of various capability, unsure of who they can trust.

There was more than enough evidence that very weird things were happening at comet ping pong beyond money laundering. The link between Epstein and ping pong is very tenuous, btw. Its link to Podesta was much closer.

As for the cultish religion angle, have you seen any of the majestic ape videos? I presume not. Nor the artwork that hung at comet ping pong. Nor the reviews prior to pizzagate really blowing up and a lot of it being expunged from the internet. If you haven't seen the evidence and are dismissing it out of hand before that, that's just putting your head in the sand. But you're also trying to convice others, so I thought it worthwhile to point it out.

You, Syaoran Li, have the same default position that every type of cry about anything satanic is by definition a satanic panic, as if it were completely impossible for bad people to have motives beyond immediate self-fulfillment.

I've not seen any of the Majestic Ape videos but I do know about the weird artwork at Comet Ping Pong. I always chalked that up to rich counterculture dilettantes being "weird for the sake of weird" as rich counterculture douchebags often tend to do.

Also, I think the Satanic Panic angle is part of the disinfo campaign since it's one of those things that immediately gets normies to dismiss it thanks to the lunacy of the more fringe fundies like Jack Chick and John Todd in the 80's and 90's. Again, the unique character of the old Religious Right in America and their downfall is one of those things that's stuck with several generations in this country. Usually when we hear "Satanic Moloch cult", we'll dismiss it as fundie nonsense or chalk it up to fringe nutcases like Richard Ramirez or the Chicago Rippers.

There might be an occult angle to it, but I'd need further evidence. I'll see if I can watch those videos and see if there's more clues beyond "weird Bohemian art snobs being weird"

I'm going on the assumption that the Satanic cult angle is part of the disinfo because it's the kind of thing that sounds very ridiculous and thanks to historical precedent, is bad optics to argue in favor of.

Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if sick fucks like Epstein and Maxwell actually were into that occult stuff and it gets lost among all the disinfo. Truth can be stranger than fiction.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

I keep seeing this thread and saying "What the fuck is a QAnon?" only to realize that I've already posted here. So back and read the OP and I'm like "Oh yeah, that." The I click away from the thread and immediately memory hole it for some reason.

 

[Lemmingwise]

There might be an occult angle to it, but I'd need further evidence. I'll see if I can watch those videos and see if there's more clues beyond "weird Bohemian art snobs being weird"

That's always the beauty of symbols isn't it? Instead of speaking of things directly or showing things directly, they're a way to hide behind a symbol where you can deny any connection to what it is representing to those who've studied the symbology in more depth.

Because there is always some overlap in symbols, there will be people using the symbols unaware, like those FBI symbols that you'll see everywhere you look, because a swirl or a triangle swirl is a very basic icon that anyone can come up with independantly.

However, much like language, when you see certain symbols used together coherently, it starts to have meaning that can only mean one thing. But even just explaining this part are complex explanations of things not too easily unraveled.

I'm going on the assumption that the Satanic cult angle is part of the disinfo because it's the kind of thing that sounds very ridiculous and thanks to historical precedent, is bad optics to argue in favor of.

Let's assume everything in your post is true.
That would mean two things:

1. Dressing up your illicit behaviour in these things help to cover them up

2. A precedent has been made for specifically discounting satanic type occultism, meaning that if any group does operate under that type of motivation, they would have everyone's bias in their favor in not investigating.

Of course we'd go in circles of our previous conversations, because you think that bias against believing satanic or occult angles was formed organicly, whereas I've seen sufficient evidence to believe it to be manufactured.

I keep seeing this thread and saying "What the fuck is a QAnon?" only to realize that I've already posted here. So back and read the OP and I'm like "Oh yeah, that." The I click away from the thread and immediately memory hole it for some reason.

You have to wear the tinfoil, or the chemtrail mindrays keep wiping the knowledge from your head

 

[Women should die]

NIGGERS AND JEWS ARE GAY -Q

 

[Pissmaster]

Yeah see these QAnon posts are just autistic roleplay now. But what I wonder is. Conspiracies have been covered on the internet for ages. Why is it only when this QAnon larp happened, suddenly boomers got into this? I mean theres even a wiki for conspiracies. https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Corporate_media/Deep_state_control

Why this? Why now?

My personal theory: Boomers are people who were born between 1946 and 1964, right? Think about what they grew up with - the advent of television, starting with small black-and-white CRTs getting just a few channels. TV was a colossal thing, just like the internet is to us, despite the limited programming. So, everybody watched the same few things. Shows dealing with futuristic espionage plots like Mission Impossible, Get Smart, and I Spy were very popular in their day, and the characters would use coded messages simple enough for the audience to understand.

Qanon does the same sort of thing. Boomers try to read between the lines, find codes, patterns, and discuss them amongst themselves. I think that's why boomers are so uniformic in their nostalgia, they all grew up with the exact same stuff crammed down their throats. Even if you're gen X, you had more of a variety of music, movies, and TV to watch.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

One thing about Qanon that I think is worth noting is the flippant comparison of current events to movies. If you skim through Q's history, you'll see plenty of photoshopped movie posters, but something that's stuck in my craw is this one:

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In the world of Qanon, Q+ is supposedly President Trump himself. They're usually very short and say jack shit, just skim through this: https://qanon.pub/?q=Q+ and read any post signed by "Q+". Assuming all of that is true, it showcases Trump's tendency to see all of this as... a movie?

Like, I get the movie allegory: the riots are, on paper, all about the victim du jour, but they're really about overthrowing America. Got it. Here's the thing: My fucking city, the city I grew up in, is under assault. Which city? It's not even a powerlevel to say that at this point, with how many riots are happening all over the nation. The tension in the air from even a quick trip to the grocery store, with aggressive drivers and people darting around, is palpable. Comparing recent events to fucking cinema is straight-up CWC shit.

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edit: Some other things about Q that are worth pointing out:

• Movies referenced are (afaik) all thrillers, some of them being The Godfather III; Official Secrets; The Hunt for Red October; The Sum of All Fears; Patriot Games
• No video games at all are ever referenced
• Qanon himself is thought to be possibly made up of several different people (screenshots shared have been from different kinds of phones, iPhones and Androids, all recent models for their time), though the main guy thought to possibly be the ringleader is General Michael Flynn
• Qanon followers love the number 17, because Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet, and also in the Bible, 17 represents the number of total victory so they looooooooove the number 17 and see it everywhere and go "OH MAN HES HOLDING UP 17 FINGERS THAT MEANS Q IM GONNA QOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" (incidentally, the number 13 apparently stands for rebellion and lawlessness, maybe that's why 13 is considered the unlucky number)

Boomers believe conspiracies when it affirms their world beliefs that there is a vast conspiracy against Trump and Trump is fighting for the greater good while giving no indication as such publicly.

Anyone who believes QAnon should be committed because they're batshit insane

 

[Nom Carver]

I think a good rule of thumb for any conspiracy that could actually be physically possible is to consider the middle ground. I think it's safe to say that pretty much everyone here knows that absolute degeneracy like pedophilia can be found in any class or group in any society. But you need to draw the line as the claims become more and more extreme and batshit insane.

Are they all interconnected worldwide - Fat chance.

Do they all worship Satan - Some of them are probably in some autistic cult.

Do they perform a ritual on children and make a life extending drug out of their adrenaline - What?

It just gets to this point where it's utter fantasy, and the only real defense for something like this is that it's 'all behind closed doors' or 'They've been erasing themselves from history for hundreds of years' or however long these groups have supposedly been around. Good luck keeping a worldwide secret society together for that long. It's like these people desperately want to believe in something that is so fictional. Maybe boomers just want to find something fantastical like this to believe in to escape how fucked up the world has been getting. Maybe it's like using video games as escapism for us as it is them.

Oh, shit. Sorry, my autism was showing.

 

[GreenJacket]

Are they all interconnected worldwide - Fat chance.

Elites being internationally connected has been a thing since at least the middle ages (The monarchs of Europe by 1914 were all like cousins of each other)..

Western governments agreeing to spy on each other's citizens (Five Eyes).

Ghislaine Maxwell being able to trot around the world in her yacht while Epstein made connections with the rich and powerful.

This, of course, only applies to the West.

 

[Nom Carver]

This, of course, only applies to the West.

What do you think worldwide means?

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

If Q isn't some crackhouse dweller making things up for shits and giggles, he's almost certainly a set of glowies partaking in information warfare to steer the minds of superstitious right wingers in a direction that's favorable to them. It's one or the other. Why would glowies steer people's attention towards pedophiles? I don't know, but if Q was truly someone intent on exposing important people's dirty laundry he would've been silenced by now.

That being said, Hollywood is full of pedophiles and people at the top of the food chain are perverts. It's no secret Sheikhs hire high class hookers and make them have sex with their camels or do other repulsive things, for instance. It's not outside the realm of possibility that outrageous things like ritual child sacrifice might occasionally happen, if only because some people love breaking taboos and know they can get away with it.

Groups like O9A even talk about performing human sacrifices in their literature, although I don't think any evidence has surfaced about them actually going through with any such ritual. O9A are a group of Nazi Satanists who have been around since the 70's, btw.

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

Anyone who believes QAnon should be committed because they're batshit insane

The problem there is what do you define as a "QAnon nutter"?

I mean we just had the arrest of a CEO of a private jet company for trafficking tweens.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/sex-of...ty-some-as-young-as-12-years-old.80859/unread

Do we just keep handwaving these patterns away because the mainstream told people everything QAnon is crazy conspiracy theories? I think people want to believe QAnon are all loons, because regular people probably couldn't handle knowing the big wigs are fucking kids right now and theres nothing you or anyone can, or will, do.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The problem there is what do you define as a "QAnon nutter"?

I mean we just had the arrest of a CEO of a private jet company for trafficking tweens.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/sex-of...ty-some-as-young-as-12-years-old.80859/unread

Do we just keep handwaving these patterns away because the mainstream told people everything QAnon is crazy conspiracy theories? I think people want to believe QAnon are all loons, because regular people probably couldn't handle knowing the big wigs are fucking kids right now and theres nothing you or anyone can, or will, do.

Anyone who believes that there is a "Q" working for the government who is leaking and that the government (mainly Democrats) are a satanic child-sex trafficking cult that Trump is trying to take down.

No one is denying that shit happens, and it's awful it does, but the Q stuff is way beyond that "sometimes it happens"

 

[Grandpa Simpson]

Anyone who believes that there is a "Q" working for the government who is leaking and that the government (mainly Democrats) are a satanic child-sex trafficking cult that Trump is trying to take down.

Thats really the only part of the QAnon that I have issue with. Most of the other stuff just seems to fall in the realm of the typical "conspiracy theory" stuff thats been around for years. It's like they put all the old theories in a new suit and suddenly people were interested.

Which is the part I don't understand. You didn't believe the conspiracy theory before but now you do because Q from James Bond told you he's secretly working with Trump? I don't get it.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Thats really the only part of the QAnon that I have issue with. Most of the other stuff just seems to fall in the realm of the typical "conspiracy theory" stuff thats been around for years. It's like they put all the old theories in a new suit and suddenly people were interested.

Which is the part I don't understand. You didn't believe the conspiracy theory before but now you do because Q from James Bond told you he's secretly working with Trump? I don't get it.

No one denies that there's child trafficking that goes on in the world, and it's awful that it does. And some rich people are the culprit, again no one was denying that. But the extend of QAnon goes way beyond that. They took a legit thing and dialed it up to 11.

And let's be honest, here. If that shit is going on, Trump sure as hell isn't going to be stopping it.

 

[Duke Nukem]

A lot of politicians are pedophiles, but other than that, believing in a Satanic cabal of pedos working together for world domination? Not really plausible.

 

[Assorted Nuts]

You don't need a super top secret military intelligence whatever to tell you there are a bunch of pedophiles in the circles of rich and powerful people. Everything "Q" claims is either something any moron could tell you or bullshit.

Do you know what adrenochrome is? It's adrenaline with oxygen in it. You can synthesize it in a lab easily. If it had magical fountain of youth properties we would know about them already. And if Trump was truly threatening the alleged supply of children to harvest it from they could just pay off a pharma company to make it by the truckload if they really need this shit. Q takes obvious truths, like that rich pedophiles exist, and uses it as a vehicle to feed boomers and the mentally ill nonsense.

 

[GreenJacket]

What do you think worldwide means?

So you agree with me then?