🤝 Community Quiverfull Movement Lolcows - Starring the Duggars

I'm praying that it leads to every Quiver child having the locks removed from their bedroom doors.

Disagree. With the way that every other household is apparently crawling with incestuous pedophiles in these circles I'd argue that locks on the inside of the kids' doors would be perfectly appropriate. The "trying to prevent the creepy men in the house from being tempted" excuse won't fly in court either if the kids couldn't get out but the resident pedo would have no trouble getting in. Safest option would unironically probably be a storeroom style lock, where the pedo couldn't get in without the key, but from the inside it'd have a lever style handle a kid older than 2 could pop open no problem. Or just door alarms, I guess. Those would require the non-pedo adults to actually be both aware and interested in doing something about it, though, which seems to be half the problem.

Do we believe her when she says it was from birth control? Seems awfully convenient for her narrative.

I don't think Michelle ever claimed to believe in the existence of an actual medical reason why taking birth control pills resulted in her later miscarriage(s), at least not publicly, anyway. Iirc she said that she believed the miscarriage was God's way of punishing her for prior birth control use because it's a sin, and I think she worded it like that on purpose. It still sort of implies to anyone who doesn't know better that using birth control pills can cause women to abort pregnancies years later, but without actually making any real disprovable claims that it did.
 
I remember Michelle claimed that a doctor told her that she miscarried because she was on birth control. What kind of shitty doctor would say that?
 
Mild PL but I was raised by religious nuts and had similar experiences. It's why I'm an atheist today. Also gonna spoiler this story, cuz I'm sure not everyone wants to hear me sperg about creepy religious bullshit.

I grew up being scared to pee, cuz I was told god was always watching me, even in the bathroom. It was pounded into our heads that god could read our minds and see our sinful thoughts, and that we'd go to hell for it. They obsessed over us kids touching ourselves, called me disgusting for feeling things I couldn't control. That does shit to a child.

These people are obsessed with their children's sexuality, even once they're adults and it's no longer any of their goddamn business. They act like adults are little kids who can't be trusted to make their own decisions, then turn around and treat little kids like adults who are capable of consenting.

Yep. My church wasn't even extreme and it still had weirdos in it. The father I was talking about was just very psychotic, but he shut the fuck up when my mom came in and called his psycho ass out for his behavior. He shut up instantly.

I bet his wife never divorced him and probably had like four or five more kids with that son of a bitch while he kept hitting and screaming at them.

You want to see something scary? Look up the documentary on Andrea Yates and the cult she was in, the recent one made by Moses Storm, who was in the same religious group she was in.

Watch Randy Yates in that video and you'll see something truly frightening.
 
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Randy Yates is terrifying, he murdered those kids just as much as she did. He should have faced a guillotine if there was any justice in the world.

The doctor warned that she shouldn't have anymore kids because of the Postpartum Psychosis risk and he kept doing it.

The creepy part is when Moses finally talks to Rusty. You can tell Moses was traumatized by the cult and the things he was taught by it.

And Rusty is just blank with no emotion during the conversation while Moses is close to tears.
 
Disagree. With the way that every other household is apparently crawling with incestuous pedophiles in these circles I'd argue that locks on the inside of the kids' doors would be perfectly appropriate. The "trying to prevent the creepy men in the house from being tempted" excuse won't fly in court either if the kids couldn't get out but the resident pedo would have no trouble getting in. Safest option would unironically probably be a storeroom style lock, where the pedo couldn't get in without the key, but from the inside it'd have a lever style handle a kid older than 2 could pop open no problem. Or just door alarms, I guess. Those would require the non-pedo adults to actually be both aware and interested in doing something about it, though, which seems to be half the problem.
Now I'm imagining a bunch of mini fundies in coyote vests to keep the resident pervs at bay. Like this, but a 6 year old:
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I asked a family member with kids her opinion of the doorknobs with outside locks, and she said that when her kids were little she did that with their bedroom door for a while because the kids would lock themselves in and forget how to unlock it and panic until she could come pick the lock.
Once the kids got old enough to understand that they were being goobers and annoying their mother, the knob was turned back around and they had to find other ways to give Mom gray hair.

So, overzealous CPS worker or were there other signs of trouble?
Given how brazen the Duggars are about their lifestyle, they probably bragged about something icky and gave the poor CPS worker trauma.
 
I asked a family member with kids her opinion of the doorknobs with outside locks, and she said that when her kids were little she did that with their bedroom door for a while because the kids would lock themselves in and forget how to unlock it and panic until she could come pick the lock.
Once the kids got old enough to understand that they were being goobers and annoying their mother, the knob was turned back around and they had to find other ways to give Mom gray hair.

So, overzealous CPS worker or were there other signs of trouble?
Given how brazen the Duggars are about their lifestyle, they probably bragged about something icky and gave the poor CPS worker trauma.
Normally I'd give the benefit of the doubt to people and assume they're normal...But these people are anything but. This is a family with multiple generations of abuse, you've got cover-ups left and right, they admit to IBLP childrearing methods...At some point, I think it's fair to say where there's smoke, there's fire when it comes to these weirdos.
 
Rusty Yates grew up in a suburb of Nashville. When the murder hit the news, there were women who went to high school and church with him blathering to the media about what a catch he was. It was as grotesque as it sounds.
 
I remember Michelle claimed that a doctor told her that she miscarried because she was on birth control. What kind of shitty doctor would say that?
She made that up. No doctor told her that.

One of my favorite bits of Meech lore is that she visited a fertility specialist after her most recent miscarriage at the age of 47. I literally screamed "YOU ARE NOT INFERTILE YOU CRAZY BITCH" when I read that on whatever news-tainment site it was on. You have 19 children, you mongoloid. This is the opposite of infertile. Any fertility specialist worth a shit wouldn't even take her calls. Everything about these people makes me furious.
 
She made that up. No doctor told her that.

One of my favorite bits of Meech lore is that she visited a fertility specialist after her most recent miscarriage at the age of 47. I literally screamed "YOU ARE NOT INFERTILE YOU CRAZY BITCH" when I read that on whatever news-tainment site it was on. You have 19 children, you mongoloid. This is the opposite of infertile. Any fertility specialist worth a shit wouldn't even take her calls. Everything about these people makes me furious.
Medical intervention is meddling with the Lord's plan when it interferes with you having a bajillion kids, but it's perfectly acceptable to give God a little nudge if you want a bajillion and one. It's almost like these people don't give a shit about God's will and are just doing this for their own egos.
 
I'm not sure I can manage to say this well, but I'm gonna try. I've seen a lot of speculation about Joe smirking or being smug, or thinking his charges were no big deal, because he didn't react much. People like Josh are fine with being given dominion over others. But some people are not. They. see the horrors of it and internalize all of it. They accept that they have done wrong and will be punished, they have always been ready for that and know they deserve it. When your every breath is a sin that must be outweighed by voluntarily living in such an inhuman way, you come to believe you are bad and deserve bad. I grew up like these kids. All of my siblings and I show the marks of it and always will. I think of my brother, of the bad he has done and of whst was done to him, and I still love him. Joe may be smug, but he may just be conditioned. My brother is a dangerous man and I'd never trust him, but I also saw him tortured into becoming what he is. My feelings on all of this are complex. I hate what he's done. I love him. And the love is what makes it so fucking hard.
 
@Umaibae try Channel 5, they posted the call on their yt channel.

Some kind of new stuff today:

Kendra gets formally arraigned today, dunno what time. Friday's arrest was just booking and bail. WCSO's reluctance to hold her for the weekend, I hope, speaks to the lack of severity of her accusations. We may or may not find out more about those accusations after her arraignment. Eta: just kidding, she was taken off the docket sometime this morning and never appeared. Was an admin error from Friday, presumably.

Cousin Amy has been talking to TMZ: https://www.tmz.com/2026/03/21/amy-duggar-supports-children-amid-joseph-kendra-legal-issues/

Amy isn't remotely reliable, so take everything she claims with an enormous grain of salt. She claims CPS has the kids. We can't know that unless someone has violated their confidentiality (since we know the only person who will speak to her in the family is Jill), and after the experience of this jurisdiction with this cursed family I seriously, seriously doubt any state employee would threaten this process so stupidly. So who tf knows.
 
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WOACB is claiming the kids aren't with either set of grandparents, because of the high profile nature of the case, and the fact that Arkansas wants to appear impartial and not mess it up. But, as usual, she does not reveal sources, so take that information as you see fit. It does make sense, though. I'm hoping the kids are in a foster situation far removed from either family, and not associated with the IBLP. And that Kendra learns from Anna's and Michelle's mistakes. If she "stands by her man", it will piss me right off, but be unsurprising.
 
WOACB is claiming the kids aren't with either set of grandparents, because of the high profile nature of the case, and the fact that Arkansas wants to appear impartial and not mess it up. But, as usual, she does not reveal sources, so take that information as you see fit.
I'm assuming that WOACB's sources are imaginary. Impartial to whom? Meech and Dim Bulb are already state-approved foster parents, as they were fostering a nephew for a while. On the surface (only!), it would be in the kids' best interest to be in a familiar place. WE think JB&M are creepy and dangerous, but the state has no facts to support that and with them being registered to foster, that seems like the impartial thing to do.
 
WOACB is a fucking numpty and has her own thread here, although her big drama has died down. Please take anything she says as her addies and wine doing the talking. Other than being a drama queen cunt, she's low af. Implying an 8-year old girl talking about the abuse she was going through as a "brat" and releasing the girl's medical stuff even though the kid directly begged her not to. Ahem. Sorry. Give me all the hats, I fucking hate the bitch.
 
Randy Yates is terrifying, he murdered those kids just as much as she did. He should have faced a guillotine if there was any justice in the world.
I remember when this case was ongoing and it was INSANE how little people would bring up Rusty's complicity-- at a minimum-- when they talked about it. He's a complete psychopath. I don't know if there would've been any recourse in 2001 for what he was doing, but I'm willing to bet he preyed on Andrea knowing she was weak and mentally ill from the start. (She suffered from an ED as a young teenager, and had at least suicidal ideation from an early age. She was smart but that doesn't mean you can't wind up with schizophrenia). He's a predator IMO.

I think he re-married and then his next wife divorced his ass.
 
Yeah, WOACB is about as reliable as a wet fart.

Again...the only way she could know the whereabouts of the kids is if their privacy has been violated by someone that works for the state. She doesn't know the family at all. She's barely social media friends with cousin Amy, who also hasn't spoken to anyone in the family in years (save Jill, we assume, and nobody is telling Jill shit). Remember, this is the genius who claimed she looked up and viewed CSAM during Josh's trial. Her claims should be treated with the derision she deserves.
 
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