r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

[Kyria the Great]

I truly despise that people have gotten the notion that we can somehow get rid of work and then we can live fulfilled lives. Even if magically that automation would suddenly make all the work disappear (lol), it still would still lead to a society with great crime and drug use as we as human beings need purpose and without some degree of work, we tend to fall apart or just become needlessly indulgent.

 

[MrAnnoyingDude]

Haven't had the time to read the comments deeply, but it seems like Antiwork is leaking onto NoStupidQuestions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQu...s_it_bad_that_this_whole_95_working_5_days_a/

 

[Duke Nukem]

I truly despise that people have gotten the notion that we can somehow get rid of work and then we can live fulfilled lives. Even if magically that automation would suddenly make all the work disappear (lol), it still would still lead to a society with great crime and drug use as we as human beings need purpose and without some degree of work, we tend to fall apart or just become needlessly indulgent.

I understand the whole notion behind the whole "abolish work" attitude, a lot of people have jobs that they hate in firms that don't give a fuck about them. But they're afraid to do anything to change that, like, I dunno, getting a new job? I've had jobs I hated too but it didn't stop me from working.

I understand the argument that forcing someone to work for someone that despises and disrespects them for minimum wage just to survive is basically a form of slavery, I've done this myself, but the anti-work attitude comes largely from the stereotypical lazy rich white kid millennial types.

Then again, maybe Chris-Chan is onto something by refusing to get a job. After all, he only did so well in Wendy's and it's kind of liberating knowing that you don't have to be up at the crack of dawn to flip burgers to pay off your student loan debts for your failed liberal arts program.

 

[Ozma (ZeTrannyJanny)]

For a sub that hates work. It sure is a huge piece of work to read.

 

[MrAnnoyingDude]

It's funny how the subreddit's "reading resources" basically looped to the boomer argument that "if you're sitting at a desk, it ain't a real job!"

But at least these boomers actually were willing to do jobs.

 

[jje100010001]

They're not wrong that a lot of Americans are frankly overworked, underappreciated and most importantly, underpaid- but I see this as suffering from the same phenomenon that Fat Acceptance advocates typically fall for- that certain individuals will inevitably push the concept to its literal extreme.

So in terms of Fat Acceptance it went from trying to expand beauty standards beyond the unhealthy Twiggy aesthetic, to pushing blatant obesity as being the 'new normal' of health, while also trying to marginalize others.

 

[Shaka Brah]

It's funny how the subreddit's "reading resources" basically looped to the boomer argument that "if you're sitting at a desk, it ain't a real job!"

But at least these boomers actually were willing to do jobs.

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I can't say I necessarily disagree with that reading, but it seems the antiwork people completely misunderstand the point.

A lot of contemporary critics and most early modern philosophers correctly identified the managerial class as a huge issue. Bloated managerial departments like Human Resources or, in some Silicon Valley companies and most universities, "Diversity" staff, exist solely for self-perpetuation and don't provide any value-added onto the goods and services a company produces. Those jobs are in fact largely unnecessary, and the people in them are likely aware of that and so create or inflate problems in their work environment as a way of rent-seeking to justify their existence.

But to transform that into "all work sucks pay me to do nothing at all" completely misses the point. Most jobs are satisfying. Physical labor especially tends to lead to satisfaction, since in the trades you tend to see projects or products completed and you have a physical good to be proud of.

The people in /r/antiwork are the same as the people in those useless managerial jobs except they don't get paid. They're guaranteed to be deeply unsatisfied no matter what happens because being a NEET is unsatisfying, and they will inevitably cause problems for society in order to seek value and gratification.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

the unique thing about r/antiwork is that Reddit pays people to moderate and/or shadowban people that come up with excuses as to how you the worst at not not knowing how to not know how to not work.

of course, this is Reddit, but still, pretty interesting to say the least.

 

[Untrue and Dishonest]

Are nurses the most pretentious employees? Every single nurse I have seen or read about only ever whined about their job and payment considering how they're "basically doctors". This one even complains about no hazard pay because apparently working around sick people was a surprise. Anyways...

Reddit pays people to moderate

 

[KillEmAll1989]

“Workers at McDonald’s can’t afford a house?!?!?!? Capitalism. Has. Failed.”

 

[Gun Safety]

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Are nurses the most pretentious employees? Every single nurse I have seen or read about only ever whined about their job and payment considering how they're "basically doctors". This one even complains about no hazard pay because apparently working around sick people was a surprise. Anyways...

Nurses are the female equivalent of cops. Most of them are honest hardworking people who want to help others and want the prestige of being in that occupation, but every low IQ bully and psychopathic woman will be attracted to it to have control over someone's life.

 

[Duke Nukem]

“Workers at McDonald’s can’t afford a house?!?!?!? Capitalism. Has. Failed.”

Who said you can't afford a house? This one's got three floors, kitchen, bathroom, even a hot tub, all for the princely sum of...

Spoiler: $200

 

[Ponzo]

Those milennial / zoomer retards somehow think its the american dream to get a job at mcdonalds for 50/hr and work there till you retire. No, only the last two generations completely forgot that the goal is to get a job for a few years, learn from your boss and his success and even more so from his failures, say thank you, quit your job and start your own business based on the things you learned.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Those milennial / zoomer retards somehow think its the american dream to get a job at mcdonalds for 50/hr and work there till you retire. No, only the last two generations completely forgot that the goal is to get a job for a few years, learn from your boss and his success and even more so from his failures, say thank you, quit your job and start your own business based on the things you learned.

That's not really accurate either. Typically, you would start as a line worker for your local industry and devote your life to working there and improving your skills so you could climb the ladder to the point that you at least had a comfortable office position, if not an executive status. Depending on your circumstances, you might have gone to college and worked part-time at the factory to help pay costs, but the primary factor is that you typically started small and stayed there to go from replaceable drone to valued member of the company.

 

[Ponzo]

That's not really accurate either. Typically, you would start as a line worker for your local industry and devote your life to working there and improving your skills so you could climb the ladder to the point that you at least had a comfortable office position, if not an executive status. Depending on your circumstances, you might have gone to college and worked part-time at the factory to help pay costs, but the primary factor is that you typically started small and stayed there to go from replaceable drone to valued member of the company.

But then you spend a decade or two working for a company that gives zero fucks about you, hoping you can climb the corporate ladder high enough to live good instead of being your own boss and reaping the benefits of your work. You don't have to start your own construction or plumbing business, you can stay corporate but be your own boss. I worked at an insurance company and after a few years started my own business doing quality management audits for insurance companies.

 

[Gingervitis]

Those milennial / zoomer retards somehow think its the american dream to get a job at mcdonalds for 50/hr and work there till you retire. No, only the last two generations completely forgot that the goal is to get a job for a few years, learn from your boss and his success and even more so from his failures, say thank you, quit your job and start your own business based on the things you learned.

That's not really accurate either. Typically, you would start as a line worker for your local industry and devote your life to working there and improving your skills so you could climb the ladder to the point that you at least had a comfortable office position, if not an executive status. Depending on your circumstances, you might have gone to college and worked part-time at the factory to help pay costs, but the primary factor is that you typically started small and stayed there to go from replaceable drone to valued member of the company.

I thought the American was working a job that you like (if not love), that you’re good at, and that can give you a comfortable life.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

I thought the American was working a job that you like (if not love), that you’re good at, and that can give you a comfortable life.

I really do think that the story of starting at entry level and climbing the ranks was part of that dream for years. You bled and toiled to get yourself a valuable job you enjoy, and that makes it all the sweeter as you spend the rest of your career doing what you love.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

“Workers at McDonald’s can’t afford a house?!?!?!? Capitalism. Has. Failed.”

 

[BluntyBitch]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...lat-if-you-want-but-be-ready-to-pay-the-price

 

[Flaming Insignias]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...lat-if-you-want-but-be-ready-to-pay-the-price

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Chinese bugmen protesting sweatshop labor that will maybe get them pennies a day? This is totally the same as Art Majors complaining about only finding work at McDonald’s!