r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

How will society function without jobs?


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Any activity from Doreen? Seems like he pulled a Byuu and disappeared after his embarrassing performance. No reddit activity, twitter locked.

I note that a few weeks ago, his patron reached $100 where he promised to write a book but it went back below $100

Less work for our antiwork friend
He has to be sock puppeting, but I don't know his posting style/times active to really be able to verify that with any accuracy
 
No shit everyone gets desperate for money, but only you honkies made a political movement blaming the wrong people for it.

Nobody gives a shit if a nigga hates a Mexican, you crackers MADE us care that you care, see?
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is white. Yes, totally accurate. Please keep rambling until you've got it all out of your system. Please continue to talk about how bad the white man is in a gossip forum on a thread about isn't actually about this topic. It's totally worth the multiple pages of side tracking and arguments. It's totally not pointless. You will totally make a statement that will change people's minds. Just a few more posts and everyone will understand where you're coming from. It will totally work.

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Yes, please keep tweeting and not actually doing any actual work. That will totally work. It's absolutely astounding how activism has been diluted into posting onto social media online.
 
Is there any place where you can talk about re-thinking our current state of capitalism and it's neo-liberalist (Not to be confused with left wing liberal) corruption, as well as the messed up mentalities and mindsets we have about our work culture WITHOUT it devolving into either Commie bullshit or Rand pussy licking?
The problem is, what's the point of talking about it? There's really nothing worthwhile about opining on the problems of work culture to strangers unless you're just looking to preach an ideology to them which is why it always devolves into the grandiose bullshit you're trying to avoid. If you really want to change things, at least in your life, you just have to take action to do it and plenty of people have done so which is why there are a lot of different options for work style and the like. There will always be societal and government issues that create pain points, but there will also usually be ways around those issues as well.

If anything, carving your own niche to suit your needs is becoming easier over time.
 
I do think that one issue all class reformists have yet to find a legitimate answer or plan to is the idea of getting minorities to buy in to the revolution, especially when the message of “no war but the class war” can be easily skewed/misinterpreted as “all lives matter”. It’s a delicate line to manage, especially given the progress of the past two decades where reparations are slowly being made.

Not to mention that when Marxism was actually successful back in the early 20th century there definitely was not as diverse of a population as there is now in the current US. Probably doesn’t help that’s most of anti-work is populated by middle class white cis males, so really to the ignorant or uneducated they might be seen as radical as the alt-right: basically two sides of the same coin.
The problem really is that the actual working class generally are under educated immigrants. The college age kids going to expensive schools are the exact definition of middle class, and ultimately, not the real target of Marxist, socialist, or labor reformist thought. Someone having their rent paid by mom and dad doesn't need their working environment reformed anywhere near as much as the actual lower class of laborers that get shafted every day.

Class reform would first need to entail mass education reform to show people that the capitalist upper classes legitimately don't care about workers unless those workers make money. This is a thorny issue all its own because no two people can agree on what education reform even means beyond the most broad stroke of, "schooling sucks and we need to fix it."

The problem then becomes getting the lower class into education and keeping them there but also making them pay attention. The average immigrant worker breaking his back in a field probably barely understands the kind of economic thinking to partake in labor reform. He'll probably go, "this is boring, I don't want to be here, let's go on the internet" and zone out on his phone instead of paying attention to how the working class gets a rusty hook shoved up the ass in the name of the aighty dollar.
 
The problem is, what's the point of talking about it? There's really nothing worthwhile about opining on the problems of work culture to strangers unless you're just looking to preach an ideology to them which is why it always devolves into the grandiose bullshit you're trying to avoid. If you really want to change things, at least in your life, you just have to take action to do it and plenty of people have done so which is why there are a lot of different options for work style and the like. There will always be societal and government issues that create pain points, but there will also usually be ways around those issues as well.

If anything, carving your own niche to suit your needs is becoming easier over time.
The only place to talk about something like that is in your unsanctioned union meeting, with no HR fuckers or secretaries involved. Nobody outside your workplace and profession will care enough to give you what you need as workers in a particular industry.
more hands on intergraded learning would be optimal but requires a lot of restructuring and time to set in
Montessori is the ideal substitute for industrial education IMO. That's because the curriculum teaches life skills that double as education on specialized subjects, and vice versa. Given the right structure children taught that way will naturally self-segregate into interest groups and learn more about the things that they're most productive in. You can turn that straight into a career training path.

It's not even a new thought really. The Italians have known this since the 30s.

In fact, it's an early inoculation against the malaise the /r/antiwork mods suffer from. They have no drive and no goals because they were sent from what amounts to 18 years of daycare into a system designed to drain them dry while filling them with propaganda. Once they're out they have no life skills and no concept of real-world life. If they'd been taught through 18 years of self-actualized education they would have drive and goals before they got into secondary ed.
 
The only place to talk about something like that is in your unsanctioned union meeting, with no HR fuckers or secretaries involved. Nobody outside your workplace and profession will care enough to give you what you need as workers in a particular industry.

Montessori is the ideal substitute for industrial education IMO. That's because the curriculum teaches life skills that double as education on specialized subjects, and vice versa. Given the right structure children taught that way will naturally self-segregate into interest groups and learn more about the things that they're most productive in. You can turn that straight into a career training path.

It's not even a new thought really. The Italians have known this since the 30s.

In fact, it's an early inoculation against the malaise the /r/antiwork mods suffer from. They have no drive and no goals because they were sent from what amounts to 18 years of daycare into a system designed to drain them dry while filling them with propaganda. Once they're out they have no life skills and no concept of real-world life. If they'd been taught through 18 years of self-actualized education they would have drive and goals before they got into secondary ed.
I can confirm that the education system right now is shit & it took me a pretty long time to figure out what I want to do. The other problem is the current design of the system also encourages people to do specific things which is college, college, college, work till you die kind of system. I'd love to have my own business turning car seats into office chairs or industrial sewing in general but everything now is revolving around cyber sec or slaving away with back breaking labor & I do not have the body for the latter.
 
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Lol what a bunch of nothing that makes them look bad.
I just can't handle how political this thread has gotten, it's really bumming me out
Lol my comment got you that riled up? Dude it's been almost 24 hours and you're still mad. It must be syphilis. When's the last time you got your pee pee swabbed? I hope it's just autism for your benefit. At least that can be fixed with enough tard wrangling and training. You seem like the kind of kid that would unplug a controller because you were losing.

Please tell us more. We'd love to hear more about how mad you are at the whities for being racist and keeping the other races down. This is definitely the place to talk about it.
 
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The worst part is that you have people saying this is great way to run a business. How will the employees be paid so they can pay the bills? How will the customers know when to come in? Won't they just go to another tire business?
I can't believe honkies made this thread so political
Intriguing. Anything else to say about these so called honkies? Please vent more. We want to hear your story.
 
i just miss the meta bullshit, turns out the types too lazy to work are too lazy to stop shitty mods from controlling everything. Almost like maybe they deserve their lot in life.

I know anytime people on the right go nuts people will separate and start their own thing rather than continue being fucked by the same guy. antiwork is a known joke and a moment in reddit history. anytime people talk about reddit or moderators it will come up, we all know why. Its a waste of time to visit that or any other lefty sub for these exact reasons.
 
The worst part is that you have people saying this is great way to run a business. How will the employees be paid so they can pay the bills? How will the customers know when to come in? Won't they just go to another tire business?
Being autistic, they don't know this is just a joke. It's not a political statement, it's the kind of thing baby boomers find amusing. That business for sure has actual opening and closing hours, and they probably even have a manual time clock for their technicians.
 
i just miss the meta bullshit, turns out the types too lazy to work are too lazy to stop shitty mods from controlling everything. Almost like maybe they deserve their lot in life.

I know anytime people on the right go nuts people will separate and start their own thing rather than continue being fucked by the same guy. antiwork is a known joke and a moment in reddit history. anytime people talk about reddit or moderators it will come up, we all know why. Its a waste of time to visit that or any other lefty sub for these exact reasons.
To be quite honest, I think the group is just too retarded and lazy to do any actual action. I will say one thing about the right and that is that they can easily group together and do something. That trucker convoy in Canada is quite astounding. I've only seen protests that smooth and able to change on a dime in Hong Kong.

I'm not sure what's the actual difference between the left and right when it comes to actual movements and results. Perhaps it's simply the fact that the left will eat each other all the time. Perhaps it's the fact that there's no actual faces of leadership for normie lefties. I can only think of hasanabi and he's a dumb twitch streamer. The rest aren't really well known. I feel like Jon Stewart was kind of one but he left. Stephen Colbert was one but he dropped it. I guess John Oliver is one but he's never actually started any movements.

I'd love to actually study the reason why left movements keep failing. A similar thing happened to that Occupy Wall Street thing. The sentiments were valid, there was movement, and then for some reason there was no actual smart people to be a voice so they got two idiots to go on public TV and embarrass themselves. The movement took a hit and it failed because of bad planning.

Being autistic, they don't know this is just a joke. It's not a political statement, it's the kind of thing baby boomers find amusing. That business for sure has actual opening and closing hours, and they probably even have a manual time clock for their technicians.
There actually was a cafe that ran like that. The workers determined when the store would open and close. There were no bosses. The food would take 40 minutes to come out. The hours were irregular. Eventually it closed due to bad business.
 
To be quite honest, I think the group is just too retarded and lazy to do any actual action. I will say one thing about the right and that is that they can easily group together and do something. That trucker convoy in Canada is quite astounding. I've only seen protests that smooth and able to change on a dime in Hong Kong.

I'm not sure what's the actual difference between the left and right when it comes to actual movements and results. Perhaps it's simply the fact that the left will eat each other all the time. Perhaps it's the fact that there's no actual faces of leadership for normie lefties. I can only think of hasanabi and he's a dumb twitch streamer. The rest aren't really well known. I feel like Jon Stewart was kind of one but he left. Stephen Colbert was one but he dropped it. I guess John Oliver is one but he's never actually started any movements.

I'd love to actually study the reason why left movements keep failing. A similar thing happened to that Occupy Wall Street thing. The sentiments were valid, there was movement, and then for some reason there was no actual smart people to be a voice so they got two idiots to go on public TV and embarrass themselves. The movement took a hit and it failed because of bad planning.


There actually was a cafe that ran like that. The workers determined when the store would open and close. There were no bosses. The food would take 40 minutes to come out. The hours were irregular. Eventually it closed due to bad business.
not to sperg but the left is much better at getting their goals accomplished and protesting, its just that their stated goals aren't their real goals usually, BLM actually succeded in terms of employment goals, but those aren't as well known as the policing goals. and because their most extreme demands weren't met on that front it looks like a failure despite them getting 90% of what they wanted. its like negoitating, because the right does it in good faith they never get what they want because they go to the table with what they want, the left shoots for the moon and lands among the stars. the right puts their minimums out first and get fucked.

as for yellow vests and other right wing protests its more that they have the numbers and even then they dont really get what they want, but do get close enough for it to be considered a win, but its always Pyrrhic victories
 
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The worst part is that you have people saying this is great way to run a business. How will the employees be paid so they can pay the bills? How will the customers know when to come in? Won't they just go to another tire business?

Intriguing. Anything else to say about these so called honkies? Please vent more. We want to hear your story.
It depends. It's most likely a joke. A lot of auto shops will have goofy shit hung up just to break the monotony. On the other hand, a ton of the tire shops in my area are fronts for criminal activity. Shit like this discourages regular business and gives a place the excuse to shut down whenever they need to load stolen goods onto a truck.

Edit- I looked it up. Guthrie Tire Shop in Guthrie Oklahoma, population 10,000. The area seems like a truck stop town. My guess is that there's only the owner and maybe a son. They may also run the gas station/truck stop next door so they pop in and out to serve whoever at either business. It seems like an area where telling someone you hate capitalism will get rocks thrown at you.
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not to sperg but the left is much better at getting their goals accomplished and protesting, its just that their stated goals aren't their real goals usually, BLM actually succeded in terms of employment goals, but those aren't as well known as the policing goals. and because their most extreme demands weren't met on that front it looks like a failure despite them getting 90% of what they wanted. its like negoitating, because the right does it in good faith they never get what they want because they go to the table with what they want, the left shoots for the moon and lands among the stars. the right puts their minimums out first and get fucked.

as for yellow vests and other right wing protests its more that they have the numbers and even then they dont really get what they want, but do get close enough for it to be considered a win, but its always Pyrrhic victories
Hmm I guess you're right. I'll have to keep a bigger eye on that stuff.
It depends. It's most likely a joke. A lot of auto shops will have goofy shit hung up just to break the monotony. On the other hand, a ton of the tire shops in my area are fronts for criminal activity. Shit like this discourages regular business and gives a place the excuse to shut down whenever they need to load stolen goods onto a truck.
That's kinda funny and informative if it's an actual front.
 
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The worst part is that you have people saying this is great way to run a business. How will the employees be paid so they can pay the bills? How will the customers know when to come in? Won't they just go to another tire business?
This is insane, they're so self absorbed they don't understand that working hours aren't really for employees, they're for customers. This sign just reads to me "Open from 1pm to 4pm, with chance of random closure" which makes this a business I'd never go to, not because I'm entitled because if it was just 1-4pm weekdays for working hours I can at least plan it out if needed like with banks, but if you're randomly closed half the time even then without warning do you expect me to waste my time checking if you give a shit enough that day to work?

If any of these antiwork retards experienced this kind of delay they'd be on Reddit bitching about it. I bet if they ever showed up to the Starbucks they go to and it was closed because a pipe burst they'd complain all day, they couldn't even imagine if it was a 50-50 chance that it would be open each time they went.
 
It depends. It's most likely a joke. A lot of auto shops will have goofy shit hung up just to break the monotony. On the other hand, a ton of the tire shops in my area are fronts for criminal activity. Shit like this discourages regular business and gives a place the excuse to shut down whenever they need to load stolen goods onto a truck.

Edit- I looked it up. Guthrie Tire Shop in Guthrie Oklahoma, population 10,000. The area seems like a truck stop town. My guess is that there's only the owner and maybe a son. They may also run the gas station/truck stop next door so they pop in and out to serve whoever at either business. It seems like an area where telling someone you hate capitalism will get rocks thrown at you.
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Okay this confirms it for me. It's baby boomer humor. Those signs are the kind of joke that gets a real belly-laugh from people who work with their hands.
 
To be quite honest, I think the group is just too retarded and lazy to do any actual action. I will say one thing about the right and that is that they can easily group together and do something. That trucker convoy in Canada is quite astounding. I've only seen protests that smooth and able to change on a dime in Hong Kong.

I'm not sure what's the actual difference between the left and right when it comes to actual movements and results. Perhaps it's simply the fact that the left will eat each other all the time. Perhaps it's the fact that there's no actual faces of leadership for normie lefties. I can only think of hasanabi and he's a dumb twitch streamer. The rest aren't really well known. I feel like Jon Stewart was kind of one but he left. Stephen Colbert was one but he dropped it. I guess John Oliver is one but he's never actually started any movements.

I'd love to actually study the reason why left movements keep failing. A similar thing happened to that Occupy Wall Street thing. The sentiments were valid, there was movement, and then for some reason there was no actual smart people to be a voice so they got two idiots to go on public TV and embarrass themselves. The movement took a hit and it failed because of bad planning.


There actually was a cafe that ran like that. The workers determined when the store would open and close. There were no bosses. The food would take 40 minutes to come out. The hours were irregular. Eventually it closed due to bad business.
The left moves in large waves that slowly ebb in and seep into position to slowly rise to the points of power but it's not stable and the inherently universalist mindset will lead to lines of thinking that become corosive to their cohesion. The right on the other hand is really slow to form because of initial in fighting and asserting hierarchy, eventually building up to a rigid overwhelming force to push the bog puddle out what the goals are but then it starts to rot away as it's purpose is already served leaving a husk for the left wave to occupy. It's an eb and flow.
 
I'm not sure what's the actual difference between the left and right when it comes to actual movements and results. Perhaps it's simply the fact that the left will eat each other all the time. Perhaps it's the fact that there's no actual faces of leadership for normie lefties.
You pretty much nailed it. There's an obsession among the left with movements led democratically and then they all eat each other sans any form of strong leadership.

Don't know if there's nobody that's capable of leading or if they're trying to avoid a strongman persona or what.
 
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