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so if they just said they were crossdressing gay men how would you feel lol

That's not ideal but it's a hell of a lot better than playing along with the pretend game. But then we get to ask questions like "what are you getting out of this crossdressing, why is women's stuff so exciting to you, what do women represent to you and is it ok for you to parade fetishwear in public?"

Those kinds of questions are never going to be allowed in polite society if some crossdressers are "women on the inside" with delicate suicidal souls.

I am not like a lot of the A&N regulars calling for bonfires. I just don't want any sacred cows. We should be able to call these people what they are and go from there. We can talk properly about where wolves can go when they take off the sheepskin.
 
That's not ideal but it's a hell of a lot better than playing along with the pretend game. But then we get to ask questions like "what are you getting out of this crossdressing, why is women's stuff so exciting to you, what do women represent to you and is it ok for you to parade fetishwear in public?"

Those kinds of questions are never going to be allowed in polite society if some crossdressers are "women on the inside" with delicate suicidal souls.

I am not like a lot of the A&N regulars calling for bonfires. I just don't want any sacred cows. We should be able to call these people what they are and go from there. We can talk properly about where wolves can go when they take off the sheepskin.
not so sure just wearing a floral dress and heels is "fetishwear' but whatever
 
People who have lots of friends who trooned out should take this as a sign that there is something that is attracting them to these types of mentally ill people and seek self betterment.

Thread tax of someone getting roped into flying across the country to only be tricked into being a "unicorn" for a couple and is now sleeping in a hotel until their flight home in a few days. Sucks to be retarded.
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The final stage was for him to do his own troonout to try to get the troon to treat him better but instead the other troon freaked out, shouted about how YWNBAW and kicked him out. Last I heard he's in some degen polycule. Used to be one of the most decent, reasonable people I knew.
I'm sorry for you not having known a single decent, reasonable person ever.
 
I'm sorry for you not having known a single decent, reasonable person ever.

Oh, I met lots of reasonable people. But not at liberal arts college. Burn it to the ground.

People who have lots of friends who trooned out should take this as a sign that there is something that is attracting them to these types of mentally ill people and seek self betterment.

Thread tax of someone getting roped into flying across the country to only be tricked into being a "unicorn" for a couple and is now sleeping in a hotel until their flight home in a few days. Sucks to be retarded.

This is really really common. "Unicorns" are disposed of the moment they cause the inevitable jealousy in the wife. They're like a sacrificial lamb for the relationship.

Lots of these long-distance "add a partner" scenarios turn out badly, and a lot of the people who engage in them are people who live with no savings and no ability to just say "wow, was I ever stupid" and buy a hotel and a flight and turn around. The whole poly situation seems to appeal to a lot of people who are in that stage right before actual homelessness. I'm sure part of it is hoping for someone they can move in with, instant family, just add water.
 
People who have lots of friends who trooned out should take this as a sign that there is something that is attracting them to these types of mentally ill people and seek self betterment.

Thread tax of someone getting roped into flying across the country to only be tricked into being a "unicorn" for a couple and is now sleeping in a hotel until their flight home in a few days. Sucks to be retarded.
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"I was bamboozled" lol lmao

I know the answer is "because I'm retarded" but I'd just love to ask these people 1. Why do you think an established relationship (a marriage even) wouldn't close ranks on you if shit hit the fan? 2. Why would you trust someone who lives far away and who you only see not that often when they say they love you and shit?

It's more geek social fallacy and some sort of honor among thieves bullshit where they think for some reason people won't operate under natural circumstances. Yes, absolutely everyone on the planet prioritizes their closer relationships they've invested more time, money, and legal commitments to than some side bang. Yes, if you aren't married to them and it's long distance you're the side bang. Yes, they will say all sorts of shit to keep you happy in the arrangement that they don't mean. No, it's rarely ever the case they love or even deeply like you as the side bang.
 
Yes, they will say all sorts of shit to keep you happy in the arrangement that they don't mean. No, it's rarely ever the case they love or even deeply like you as the side bang.
"Of course he loves you even though he never tells you that, never spends any time alone with you and is using me (the main bitch) to tell you this while he passively aggressively stands in the background glaring at you." :story:
I feel like once people get out of their late teens, early twenties, they should have enough life experience to understand what gaslighting behavior looks like and seek to avoid it. I'm often baffled at just how many people accept absolute fuckwads in their life just because they haven't been burnt yet. It's gonna happen, sooner or later, and the longer the relationship goes on for the more severely you will be burnt. These people used the book "how to not be a retard for dummies" as toilet paper and then wonder why their ass is chafing.
 
I just will never ever no never empathize with people who say shit like "it turns me on when my partner is turned on by someone else." In my limited experience I have only ever experienced anger or sudden complete lack of interest when someone I'm intimate with becomes intimate with someone else.
Either you are a fucked up cuckold who needs therapy or you're leveraging your open mindedness to allow for your own transgressions.
 
"Hey poly fam, I'm a 30-year-old man and I'm ready to start a family with my girlfriend. I'm going about this by having sex with other dudes while she miserably forces herself to go out and have hookups too. 🥰 This is a good idea that will definitely work, right?"

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I (30M, bi) have been polyam since I was 20 and decided to open the relationship I was in at the time. In the 10 years since then, I've hardly been single, almost always dating at least one person at a time. I have honestly lost track of how many people I've dated, and most of my relationships have lasted less than a year. Many of them ended amicably, and I am still friends with a lot of my exes.

I have always wanted to be in a relationship that leads to living together and having kids. I know this is possible in a polyam relationship, but I kept dating people who I realized weren't compatible with me for that. I made the excuse that I could keep dating people who I wouldn't have that future with because being polyam meant that I wasn’t being held back from meeting the person who I could have that with.

Anyway, after my last relationship ended, I decided that I needed to be single, and I needed to go into my next relationship with more intention. I didn't want to commit to someone who I couldn't see myself moving in with and having kids together. I met an amazing woman (30F, straight) who lives in another city, and we started a long-distance relationship about 6 months ago. We've spent about 2 months together in total, with visits lasting from 5 days to 3 weeks. Our plan is for her to move to my city in about a year and move in with me (we'll have been together 1.5 years by then). We facetime every day and we’ve met each others’ family and friends.

When we met, she explicitly told me that she does not want to be polyamorous, but that she is happy to be in an open relationship where we both have casual sex with strangers and friends-with-benefits. Her only serious relationship was 6 years long, and they were monogamous and living together. I’ve only dated one person for longer than a year, and I’ve never lived with a partner.

We made some boundaries, such as no sex with exes, no going on dates, and telling each other after we have sex with someone else (and a heads up beforehand, if possible). She likes that I'm bi, “slutty”, and that I have sexual experiences with men. I'm on PreP and I get tested every 2-3 months. She’s interested in having MMF threesomes, but we haven’t done anything to seek them out.

But it's hard! She feels anxious when I go out without her, because she's thinking about if I'm gonna have sex with someone. After I have a hook-up and tell her about it, she tells me it turns her on to hear about it and acts very enthusiastic, but then afterwards she feels sad and insecure. In the whole span of our relationship, the only time she's hooked up with another person was while I was spending an afternoon with my friend-with-benefits, and the timing was not a coincidence.

I sort of had to force it out of her, but she confirmed what I suspected, which is that her first choice would to be monogamous with me. I feel like my first choice would be hierarchal polyamory, so this “open relationship” is a compromise between what we both want. I would definitely be amenable to closing the relationship temporarily during certain circumstances, like when we’re trying for a baby, and when we have a young child.

So I guess I’m coming to r/polyamory to ask for advice, hopefully some validation of my choices, and some reassurance that this relationship has the potential to work out. 6 months in, I feel like she is the person who I want to spend forever with.

The current top comment is horrified that OP would consider temporarily refraining from fucking guys while his hypothetical children were young. How young is young?!?!?!?!? When can you start fucking guys again?!?!?!? When your children are four years old?!?!?! That is simply too long to wait!

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So, given your parameters of what you’re willing to close a relationship for and the fact that you stated wanting multiple kids - you’re genuinely cool with a monogamous relationship for potentially a decade? Maybe more? Depending on your definition of “young child”, if it takes y’all a year or two (potentially more) to conceive, kid is considered “young” until they’re, what, 4? 7? 10? You have more than one kid?

You’re basically agreeing to a mostly-monogamous relationship that you might open up at some point in the future, after having spent the majority of your relationship and the whole part where y’all are creating a family together monogamous.

I just don’t think that’s a realistic plan if you genuinely deeply want nonmonogamy. Sounds like a great way to end up divorcing your coparenting spouse who never really wanted nonmonogamy in the first place. Most relationships that open up after a decade . . . it just doesn’t go well.

If nonmonogamy isn’t essential for you and you’d prefer building a family with this person over continuing nonmonogamy, and so monogamy for a decade and maybe the entire relationship isn’t a big sacrifice, it would work great! Tbh, someone who’s offering a fully closed relationship for unknown years doesn’t sound to me like someone who highly prioritizes nonmonogamy. Maybe you haven’t really sat with the practicalities of this and thought through what “closed for small kids” means? Maybe nonmonogamy isn’t that high on your life priorities?

It’s usually healthier to break the deal over incompatibility sooner rather than later. So maybe really take some time to introspect and evaluate and prioritize your needs and wants in relationships.

And then have some very in-depth and searching conversations with your partner about what they want and need and their priorities. Maybe y’all could read Open Deeply together, or something along those lines. Make sure this is thoroughly explored between the two of you and find if there is common ground or y’all are trying to force a fundamental incompatibility not to matter.
 
So a fag hag with a fetish for her man sucking dick for cock and a retarded bisexual...potentially have children...that's great. Just spectacular. I don't think that could possible end badly or have unforeseen consequences. Fuck's sake his sperm is probably retarded and has AIDs.

Clearly he has a preference for other men despite still being attracted to women. He wants the lady to be settled down with and that be a marker of some sort of success and to have kids without needing to do the majority of actual rearing. But still have his true fun on the side.

I hate people like this so much. Shit like this is why so many kids are fucked in the head these days.
 
"Hey poly fam, I'm a 30-year-old man and I'm ready to start a family with my girlfriend. I'm going about this by having sex with other dudes while she miserably forces herself to go out and have hookups too. 🥰 This is a good idea that will definitely work, right?"

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Planning to have kids while in a long distance relationship where you fuck dudes and she isn't cool with it? What could go wrong!? Don't worry, he takes AIDS drugs because he's such a degenerate faggot he can live his chosen lifestyle without them.

Hopefully one of them is infertile because any kid they have is going to be fucked six ways from Sunday. They'll be lucky if they aren't just a tranny.
 
Clearly he has a preference for other men despite still being attracted to women. He wants the lady to be settled down with and that be a marker of some sort of success and to have kids without needing to do the majority of actual rearing. But still have his true fun on the side.
It's like he's larping as a Midwest Republican state senator from the early 90s.
 
So a fag hag with a fetish for her man sucking dick for cock and a retarded bisexual...potentially have children...that's great. Just spectacular. I don't think that could possible end badly or have unforeseen consequences. Fuck's sake his sperm is probably retarded and has AIDs.

Clearly he has a preference for other men despite still being attracted to women. He wants the lady to be settled down with and that be a marker of some sort of success and to have kids without needing to do the majority of actual rearing. But still have his true fun on the side.
There's something especially disturbing to me when these weird ass entanglements involve the woman actively wanting her man to fuck other dudes, and enjoying it. Maybe part of it is because how, usually, the men so obviously prefer to be with other men, but the woman faila to see, or care about, the huge issues with that alone.
 
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