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That's great. Unfortunately, I'm trying to fix code that looks like this
TNO has many many variables. It would help if you told us what you are trying to fix exactly. A lot of what you might want is in scripted effects.

USA_WAL_failed_bill = yes

Is a scripted effect meaning that in the scripted effects folder there is a bracket like so.

USA_WAL_failed_bill = {
#The effects are in this bracket
}
This is done in HOI4 to save space where you use the yes command to call on a coding block. TNO does this often.
 
TNO has many many variables. It would help if you told us what you are trying to fix exactly. A lot of what you might want is in scripted effects.

USA_WAL_failed_bill = yes

Is a scripted effect meaning that in the scripted effects folder there is a bracket like so.

USA_WAL_failed_bill = {
#The effects are in this bracket
}
This is done in HOI4 to save space where you use the yes command to call on a coding block. TNO does this often.
I appreciate the help, but I am fully aware of scripted effects. I use them a ton myself lol. I was getting mad at all the crashes and errors and wanted to share this butt ugly formatting.

Ironically this code remains pretty functional, though if you take a look at ai_chance, it uses factor instead of base.

Though what goes on in the event files is the least of my worries. I can't even get the menu to load :smug:

Edit: I realize now in text it's probably hard to see what I'm talking about. Here's a sample
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Thankfully the rest of the coders seem to have more aesthetic sense then whoever did the senate events.
 
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It might be back?
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There is also a group of modders trying to make a mod based on the backstory of Fallout.
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It so far has absolutely no content but the devs claim that will soon change.
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They better not include anything from the normiefag slop show, we need a mod about the horrors of the pre war world before Mars baptized it in holy fire, not another lecture about why heckin capitalism is da real reason why the world ended.
 
To my recollection, the USSR didn't have a massive amount of involvement in the wars. EU-ME, not sure how well they'd model that, the EU's gonna just explode 2 years in, likely.
Yeah, the USSR got sidelined a lot from the lore because of that one Scott Campbell phone call (the one where he overheard a shooting while on the phone with a russian friend of his). But it also gives room for creativity. The EU-ME war ended up a stalemate because the ME ran out of oil, so maybe you could balance a technologically and industrially superior EU who is racing aganist the clock to get to the oil fields, aganist a numerically superior ME who has to manage the oil they currently have so that they aren't curbstomped before the EU runs out of steam. Maybe you can get american weapons and industry in exchange for part of your oil
 
because of that one Scott Campbell phone call (the one where he overheard a shooting while on the phone with a russian friend of his).
Never heard of this and a quick search didn't give me what I wanted. Could you explain the whole thing?
 
Never heard of this and a quick search didn't give me what I wanted. Could you explain the whole thing?
Campbell wrote an article in 2012 for the website No Mutants Allowed, called The Origins of Fallout. There he explained, among other things, the setting of Fallout and many writting and production choices, as well as their inspirations. The section about why they picked China instead of the USSR is on page 7
We got nuked by China?

The nuclear Armageddon in the back-story was between the US and China. After shipping several people asked me why China and not the old standby, the Soviet Union. I made the choice when I remembered experiences with Oleg, a Moscow developer I worked with months before when I was assistant-producing a typing game. Once, in the middle of a phone conversation, I heard some muffled bangs, and the phone went quiet. When I asked him what the noise was, he replied, “Oh, it was just the Russian mob firing their guns in the street.” I thought he was joking – he wasn’t. After that, I had a really hard time believing that the once mighty USSR would be in a position to threaten the world any time soon. So I turned to the next major communist country that typifies “the East”: China.
 
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Do I lose kiwi points if I admit I'm lowkey excited for TFR. From what I've gleaned, they've put a lot of effort into the actual game and playing and the writing doesn't take the front seat. I mean, why even play TNO, you can just open the event file from localization and read it.

Actually also probably the first, unique, singular mod that shows few signs of life for 4 years but actually isn't dead as fuck unlike so, so many others.
 
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Do I lose kiwi points if I admit I'm lowkey excited for TFR. From what I've gleaned, they've put a lot of effort into the actual game and playing and the writing doesn't take the front seat. I mean, why even play TNO, you can just open the event file from localization and read it.

Actually also probably the first, unique, singular mod that shows few signs of life for 4 years but actually isn't dead as fuck unlike so, so many others.
Nah, it's understable. TFR shows a lot of promise and their gameplay-driven focus could mark a great shift in the state of Hoi4 modding. Speaking of shift, Red Dusk is planning on updating Iran as well in a later update (not the next one), it'll be on the same update as the Italy one. A guy made a submod for the country and seems like he made the cut and is now in the dev team
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Do I lose kiwi points if I admit I'm lowkey excited for TFR. From what I've gleaned, they've put a lot of effort into the actual game and playing and the writing doesn't take the front seat. I mean, why even play TNO, you can just open the event file from localization and read it.

Actually also probably the first, unique, singular mod that shows few signs of life for 4 years but actually isn't dead as fuck unlike so, so many others.
I'm cautiously optimistic. It's good that it has a strict focus on gameplay, but I have doubts on how long the gameplay will last. The American factions don't seem to have much in the way of post civil war content. If there is any interactions with the other majors, that will be surprising.

I do not believe that it is the second coming of hoi4 mods. But if it's fun then that is all it needs to be.
 
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Do I lose kiwi points if I admit I'm lowkey excited for TFR. From what I've gleaned, they've put a lot of effort into the actual game and playing and the writing doesn't take the front seat. I mean, why even play TNO, you can just open the event file from localization and read it.

Actually also probably the first, unique, singular mod that shows few signs of life for 4 years but actually isn't dead as fuck unlike so, so many others.
Can't wait for Friday, which will be a decision between Kiwifarms Friday Night Movie Night or The Fire Rises.
 
Can't wait for Friday, which will be a decision between Kiwifarms Friday Night Movie Night or The Fire Rises.
Do both, that's what I'll be doing.

I'm cautiously optimistic for TFR, if nothing else it'll be fun to play a new mod for a while. It's the mod I'm most excited for apart from the EaW update that's coming.
 
Nixon-seethe was just the boomer version of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It doesn't matter that he was by and large a social progressive who abolished the last vestiges of the gold standard and still expanded the purview of the federal government, him rolling back and stonewalling a few Great Society projects and not capitulating to communists in wars he inherited while having an R behind his name was enough that he still drives the left insane to this day.
Don't forget to beat the little Golden Boy communist glad Hindu little Kennedy in 1960 and they still *** mad that they had cheated that election
 
Nixon-seethe was just the boomer version of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It doesn't matter that he was by and large a social progressive who abolished the last vestiges of the gold standard and still expanded the purview of the federal government, him rolling back and stonewalling a few Great Society projects and not capitulating to communists in wars he inherited while having an R behind his name was enough that he still drives the left insane to this day.
An interesting note is that allegedly young Richard Nixon was not so different from the people that mod hoi4.
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Campbell wrote an article in 2012 for the website No Mutants Allowed, called The Origins of Fallout. There he explained, among other things, the setting of Fallout and many writting and production choices, as well as their inspirations. The section about why they picked China instead of the USSR is on page 7

Huh, I never knew that. I thought that they had a better lore reason, but I guess that was built up later. IIRC the lore would expand later to make the in Universe reason the Sino-Soviet split go the opposite way, meaning Nixon going to Moscow instead of Beijing and the USSR reforming while China kept the Maoism.
 
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