Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

Unless they've rewritten the lore Germany in TNO is absolutely the same as in OTL up until WWII, the only thing in TNO that gets any detail as to how Germany won is the USSR the rest is effectively handwaved off. If they wanted to do this it should be based around Bukharin's USSR.

The 1993 Russia that actually sounds like a fun idea you could have liberal Democrat factions Nazis Russian monarchists Soviet hardliners
Yeah I'm not saying its bad but give me a mod thats just that, I'd rather have an overall smaller mod with a solid focus than a mod that spreads its content incredibly thin.
 
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Unless they've rewritten the lore Germany in TNO is absolutely the same as in OTL up until WWII, the only thing in TNO that gets any detail as to how Germany won is the USSR the rest is effectively handwaved off. If they wanted to do this it should be based around Bukharin's USSR.
All they'd have to do to make that work in the "lore" is either have Hitler ignore his generals and go for the oil reserves instead of Moscow OR have Stalin or whoever is in charge lose faith that Moscow could be held and flee. But considering they didn't even know Hitler had a second book I assume they wouldn't know nitty gritty details about WW2.
The problem with Iron Curtain is that its spreading it's content so incredibly thin, it has three start dates in 1949, 1960 and 1973 and they even have content for Russia in 1993. Just pick a start date and build up from that.
When the new Russian content gets added they better add a 1989-1991 state date, I am NOT playing that game from the latest start date up to the 1990's.
 
But considering they didn't even know Hitler had a second book I assume they wouldn't know nitty gritty details about WW2.
Well it's not like you need to know anything like that for building a world that includes real people.
Also side note: The fact that Hitler's second book, where the BBEG of the 20ty century clearly states his ideas and motivation, is considered an obscure detail is concerning.
 
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All they'd have to do to make that work in the "lore" is either have Hitler ignore his generals and go for the oil reserves instead of Moscow OR have Stalin or whoever is in charge lose faith that Moscow could be held and flee. But considering they didn't even know Hitler had a second book I assume they wouldn't know nitty gritty details about WW2.
Currently (and I don't know if they're going to change this too) Bukharin's USSR is an absolute mess and is the rotten structure that collapses like Hitler thought, in TNO Germany isn't somehow much stronger just everyone around it is way, way more retarded.
 
A user from the TNO discord made this memey explanation of all the forming "cliques". As usual, take it with a grain of salt.
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You can tell how some people are having more fun with the mod drama than the mod itself.
Someone probably spent more time doing graphic than any of the supposed developers spent working on the mod. I've said it before, and I' say it again: Most of these "developers" are there for discord circle jerks and nothing else.
 
When the new Russian content gets added they better add a 1989-1991 state date, I am NOT playing that game from the latest start date up to the 1990's.
Hopefully there will be a January 1rst, 1989 start date. The fall of the Warsaw pact would be a fun scenario to play.
 
Upon performing a bit of math, it turns out that this is actually true. (Provided no errors have slipt through or I forgot anything.)

TNO release - 1

England Repatching (+0.3 (1.3)
Birch And Stirling intro paths (+0.3 (1.6)
Removal of Bogi Smerti and BBB (-0.1 (1.5)
Removal of Brittany (-1 (0.5)
New 1972 US presidents (+0.5 (1)
Atlantropa removal (-0.7 (0.3)
Actual taboritsky ending (+0.5 (0.8)
Kishi removal (-0.5 (0.3)
Globalplans removal (-0.5 (-0.2)
Italian Algeria focus tree removal (-0.3 (-0.5)
Italian Palestine focus tree removal (-0.3 (-0.8)
Addition of Brazil focus tree (+1 (0.8)
Afrikaner Reichstaat content (+0.5 (1.3)
Removal of Berezniki (-0.1 (1.2)
Removal of Divine Siberia focus tree (-1 (0.2)
Addition of Ireland focus tree (+0.5 (0.8)
Removal of PRC (-1 (-0.8)
Removal of RK Madagaskar focus tree (-0.3 (-1.1)
Removal of Indonesia focus tree (-0.3 (-1.4)

Total gained: 3.6 (4.6)
Total lost: 6.1 (-2.5)
Net Loss: 1.5
The impossible has happened, tno with a proper update.View attachment 4349220
also how many hotfixes do you think will be there
Loose some of the more juicier aspects of your mod like globalplans but gain a province in China.
 
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