Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[Every One Procedural]

Why does Germany even control any land in Africa in TNO anyways? I thought the whole thing with the Nazis was that they wanted to conquer and colonize Eastern Europe, so why do they control 1/3 of Africa?

In-universe, possibly because they wanted more direct access to African rubber.
But the real reason, the reason why the developers made it that way? Kaiserreich. Kaiserreich is why many mods have complex civil wars with three or more participants (including vanilla since La Résistance), so it seems likely that the idea of a German mega-colony in central and southern Africa was quietly "inspired" by Kaiserreich.

 

[Gone Ham]

How the fuck are you faggots still caring about this almost 2.5 years after it ended.

 

[whothefuck]

How the fuck are you faggots still caring about this almost 2.5 years after it ended.

I dunno. It's more of a general "hoi4 happenings" thread now.

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

How the fuck are you faggots still caring about this almost 2.5 years after it ended.

All the drama talk has died down. (For the most part.) This thread now mostly serves for discussion of the ins and outs of HOI4 modding.

 

[Corpun]

How the fuck are you faggots still caring about this almost 2.5 years after it ended.

This thread is mostly us sperging about retarded update to mods we used to enjoy now.

On the topic of Kaiserreich/Redux and HOI4 in general, anyone else find it fucking atrocious how retarded the AI templates are. Every time I play against another major power I end up tagswitching over just to see what garbage division they are spamming and every time it is some atrocious shit that can't actually fight any better, but has such a massive defensive score to it you won't be able to push.

Shit is so infuriating and partially why some mods have coded in a unit cap on the AI to limit the spamming.

 

[The Foxtrot]

This thread is mostly us sperging about retarded update to mods we used to enjoy now.

On the topic of Kaiserreich/Redux and HOI4 in general, anyone else find it fucking atrocious how retarded the AI templates are. Every time I play against another major power I end up tagswitching over just to see what garbage division they are spamming and every time it is some atrocious shit that can't actually fight any better, but has such a massive defensive score to it you won't be able to push.

Shit is so infuriating and partially why some mods have coded in a unit cap on the AI to limit the spamming.

Yeah, I've noticed that too. The AI loves spamming leg infantry divisions + (frontline) artillery divisions so bad that you need a Metric Shit Ton of CAS and good Armored/Mechanized units to push through...
...but the AI still can't design warships hardly at all, and definitely can't update them.

 

[Corpun]

Yeah, I've noticed that too. The AI loves spamming leg infantry divisions + (frontline) artillery divisions so bad that you need a Metric Shit Ton of CAS and good Armored/Mechanized units to push through...
...but the AI still can't design warships hardly at all, and definitely can't update them.

Glad I'm not the only one. Asking for help online is useless because too many people enjoy fellating Paradox and just tell you to build better divisions bro even though these AI templates get so fucking absurd they end up filling every single infantry slot.

As far as I'm concerned, it's why the Weltkrieg ends up a stalemate on the Western Front and the outcome only changes depending on how well the Entente and Russia are. I've had games as Russia where the Commune literally doesn't start pushing into Germany until I am at the gates of Berlin.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Glad I'm not the only one. Asking for help online is useless because too many people enjoy fellating Paradox and just tell you to build better divisions bro even though these AI templates get so fucking absurd they end up filling every single infantry slot.

As far as I'm concerned, it's why the Weltkrieg ends up a stalemate on the Western Front and the outcome only changes depending on how well the Entente and Russia are. I've had games as Russia where the Commune literally doesn't start pushing into Germany until I am at the gates of Berlin.

Or hell, I've literally solo'd the entirety of NATO as East Germany in CW:IC, and the only console commands used were the ones to liberate East Germany (in 1993). Like, the only reason I didn't land troops in the UK is because I wanted to build up enough fallout shelters and a big enough nuclear arsenal to win an exchange with the USA, THEN invade the UK, then the USA itself.

Because the AI had really bizarre templates that didn't work against MBTs/Mechanized Infantry with heavy CAS, and the US Navy was literally still in the 1950s. Now the AI had researched modern techs, but only put them to production when it came to infantry equipment and tanks/mechanized, while the air forces were stuck in the 1940s/50s as well.

 

[Corpun]

Or hell, I've literally solo'd the entirety of NATO as East Germany in CW:IC, and the only console commands used were the ones to liberate East Germany (in 1993). Like, the only reason I didn't land troops in the UK is because I wanted to build up enough fallout shelters and a big enough nuclear arsenal to win an exchange with the USA, THEN invade the UK, then the USA itself.

Because the AI had really bizarre templates that didn't work against MBTs/Mechanized Infantry with heavy CAS, and the US Navy was literally still in the 1950s. Now the AI had researched modern techs, but only put them to production when it came to infantry equipment and tanks/mechanized, while the air forces were stuck in the 1940s/50s as well.

It's a shame with all these mods that have tech advances too, because the AI is just too damn incompetent to do anything and Paradox is too lazy to change anything.

 

[totally not CIA agent]

Why does Germany even control any land in Africa in TNO anyways?

IIRC Hitler demanded Germany's old African and Asian colonies during WW2, not just to get hands on African rubber but also to enact TND, however of some stuff I read before, killing all of the slavs and jews was a much more immediate goal for Nazi leadership.

 

[Bloudwulf]

IIRC Hitler demanded Germany's old African and Asian colonies during WW2

Originally it was just their original colonies but as the war progressed their demands expanded and became increasingly unrealistic. Since in the world of TNO Britian didn't surrender, the Nazis would have been a lot more punishing with their demands instead of if they'd just sued for peace early on.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Speaking of a KalterKrieg, this will be a trivia question for you all. Who coined the term 'Cold War' and what did it originally meant in it's original context?
I'll give you a hint it was not Churchill, Truman, nor Stalin and it did not exactly originally mean a time period where two or more opposing ideological political blocks compete against each other on the world stage like what all hoi4 mods think either.

Since no one botherd to respond to this when it was posted months ago allow myself to answer. The Term 'Cold War' was coined by Wallstreet arms dealer and Mr. Military Industrial Complex himself Bernard Baruch. Cold War was a cynical term that basically meant that "wow these new geopolitical tensions means that we can sell weapons like if it was a hot war like the two world wars". It did not mean a time period where two opposing ideological superpowers/ political block compete against each other on the world stage like what most hoi4 modders think.

Back to Bernard Baruch, he was appointed to the newly founded war industries board by Woodrow Wilson at the onset of of America's involvement of World War I. The war industries board will stay despite being official dismiss in a executive order and in the coming years it's members would get involved in questionable scandals like funding and arming both Bolivia and Paraguay in the Chaco War and would come under two different congressional investigations during this time over what certain members did before and during the founding of their organization. Years latter these wall street industrial magnets would come under a new name of The military industrial complex exactly what Dwight D. Eisenhower was referring to in his farewell address. Bernard Baruch was to go to guy if you were in a prominent political official in the United States if you wanted to understand the military industrial complex as he was it's founder. When he died in 1965 so did any easy to point out centralized leadership in it. It obviously still exists today.

 

[foreman 89]

What are your opinion on the new Brazil leak? It states they've banned Japanese immigration and there is decriminalized homosexuality and the country supposedly exists as a "race blind" utopia. I think it's all very interesting and you can tell the South American team cares about the content they are making but are bogged by main dev bs and constantly cutting content and changing the lore.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/18j7b00/leak_spree_day_2_starting_situation_of_assorted/

 

[Corpun]

When Kaiserreich Russia gets a big update I'm betting they will make Ivan Illyn a NatPop because he briefly worked with the Nazis like most White Emigres did in the 30s before realizing they didn't care about overthrowing the Bolsheviks. It's the same justifcation TNO used to make Vladimir III a collaborator in Russia even though in real life his Nazi Collaboration (Literally just some radio broadcasts to the Emigre community) was because his family was placed under house arrest by the Nazis. If there is one this HoI4 modder do it is grossly mischaracterize historical figures.

If I have to give TNO some credit with mischaracterization they did a pretty good job with Edward VIII, and understood he was maybe only sympathetic to Nazism, but never believed in it. Personally I've always thought Edward VIII believed in preventing a war because he had been on the field in WW1 but that's just me and the extent of his association with Germany probably will never be disclosed publicly (Other than he did write letters saying a bombing campaign would end the war with comparatively less bloodshed than a protracted war). TNO Edward is very aware and very dejected at his position as a puppet that gets the blame for everything, doesn't even want to fucking be there, and knows nothing will improve.

 

[Bubba Hernandez]

Brazil is a "race blind" utopia in the new leak

So, Brazil in real life

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

It states they've banned Japanese immigration

and the country supposedly exists as a "race blind" utopia.

Those are contradictory statements.

 

[foreman 89]

Users have pointed that out in the comments.

 

[Lightning]

Word on the gossip grapevine is that KR devs, faggot brony Augenis in particular, are in flatout denial that their magnum opus of misplaced Yu-Gi-Oh references and other minigames hasn't been received with unanimous adoration. Apparently, to them it's all just KX drones doing gayops and being haters - is it any wonder they can't make anything good in their circlejerk hugbox?

 

[Corpun]

Word on the gossip grapevine is that KR devs, faggot brony Augenis in particular, are in flatout denial that their magnum opus of misplaced Yu-Gi-Oh references and other minigames hasn't been received with unanimous adoration. Apparently, to them it's all just KX drones doing gayops and being haters - is it any wonder they can't make anything good in their circlejerk hugbox?

Is there a source (Not that I don't believe it)?

 

[Merry]

What a great metaphor for Panzer's life.

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This one above stands out to me. Panzer is so weak willed with so low of a sense of self worth that he folds to any kind of peer pressure/grooming and does not understand the long term ramifications of what those actions might lead to. Whether it is becoming a Neo-Nazi on stormfront or flipping to become a Vaush breadtube fanboy, then wanting to help out some Chinese Communist modding farm and then finally becoming trans out of someone telling him he was an egg without knowing or caring the full ramifications of what that might entail.

What no balls, self of identity, or will to power does to a mf